Re:- the new individual 'hero tokens....I posted this on FB earlier and it seemed to go down well.....
I just think that at the moment it seems pretty unobtainable to earn enough of one kind of token to be able to unlock a character and also upgrade them. We've got tokens for each kind of normal survivor and tokens for each new hero at the moment. That's 14 different kinds of tokens in total :-O If you made it so that the heroes all shared one 'Hero token' and possibly even made all the normal survivors all share a 'Survivor token' it'd be so much better. Unlocking and upgrading new heroes and old survivors would suddenly seem a lot more obtainable and appealing to players.
What do you guys think? Just having the 2 types of tokens instead of 14 different types of tokens would be far more preferable to the current system in my eyes...
Survivors can be upgraded to 10 stars? Didnt see this on the 2.0 changes intiially listed. Forced to accept daryl prior to knowing his level was going to be determined by radio tent which had essentially been not worth upgrading since patch where survivors max lvl removed. And why give him a special weapon that cant be upgraded to current weapons tent max value? I can upgrade items from lvl 19 to lvl 22 but his crossbow can only go from lvl 16 to lvl 19? We have a new class of survivors introduced, we then spend our radios and try to get some, then after several hours of people doing so, theres suddenly this 8 days of hero's announced. Great! radios all spentand all we get are ads for radio bundles, and you wonder why we cry foul.
What I'm getting at is where is the communication? Finding out via other media that new hero's will be coming? What else has changed in 2.0? People complainig of survivors being nerfed, is this just anotber change ng don't want to admit/inform us of yet? Personally i haven't noticed the change yet but I've guild members who have and i believe them. Just waiting to find example where i notice it as well.
Ng needs to take the information given to us more seriously, more lead time between telling us and implementing it. And more importantly a massive increase in the amount of detail. Not, we're going to update the game sometime this week (or better yet next week) but the actual time and date and while details may change here is what is proposed.
Stop the teaser [email protected] and take us seriously. It might be alright if you are a mod or content creator who gets told everything prior to everyone else, but after watching that video of michonne today i now know why stupid changes are being made. Never seen such bad tactical moves being made in game from the start, assault runs up to tank and doesnt shoot? Or was it just this non-existant nerfing (shooter used to take out that lvl tank)? Had to stop watching.cant see that person working their way from lvl 13 up to lvl 19 without spending thousands or getting bonuses for being content creator. Who ever thought to promote that vid? If i was to make changes I'd start there.
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Does a hero take up a spot in the roster? does anyone have a full roster and get enough tokens to unlock a new one, can you see how it's added?
I guess this post is directed at anyone whom is close to aquiring enough tokens to unlock a new hero AND currently has the max number of survivors they can hold.
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@fistonltd Thanks for your reply. Yeah I see your point of course. I am just too stubborn to stop. I will stop with bigger cash investments, like chunks of gold or radios. Still my weekly boosts will continue, as long as I enjoy the game and while being involved on my guild (fighting for #4 in my country, lol). So while I do understand your arguments, I still enjoy playing, so I will continue to do so, at least for now. :-)
@zbot thank you... I didn't think they would. Someone on a different thread mentioned it but since it's not able to be "retired" i couldn't see how it could take up one. Thanks for the clarification
update: I could have just looked at my number of survivors and counted not including the hero and seen that. Doh!!
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@CanadianMike agreed. They say they're listening but they don't hear a thing. I'm not even worried about tokens or F2P.
What gets me is the nerfs, the lack of fixing anything we ask for like autocenter, and the damn low lvl grind for stars.
I'm leaving my guild because I just can't find any enjoyment playing challenges over and over again for useless stars and useless gear.
And for the last two weeks, radio's have dropped to less than one a day for me.
With the Season 7 trailer dropping today (1pm PT), I was just on The Walking Dead's FB page. You know what I didn't see? Any reference to this app. If someone else can find it, great. I'd love to know if I missed it. But it's not even on their list of apps to link you to the download.
If they are going to make this game completely reliant on radios/tokens, we should be guaranteed at least 1 radio per mission in the reward boxes. This was we at least have the ability to grind side missions to collect radios. There has to be a legitimate, alternate way to gather radios other than paying loads of money. Increase the number of radios in bundles so that people will still pay money to buy them in bulk and not feel completely robbed.
My maxed out survivors i.e. lv 19 legendary hunter with lv 22 rifle can't take out a lv 17 tank without more than one shot. Others in my guild are saying their maxed out hunter isn't guaranteed to take out a normal lv 20 walker with one shot. Basically the common issue that really has people losing interest is the fact that so much time, effort and real money has been invested to build a capable team of survivors and NG has not only taken away the effectiveness of our survivors but they basically want more money to get back what was taken. It has gotten to the point where it feels insulting to say the least.......... but we're survivors right?!........ If we are Rick's group than NG is currently Negan and the Saviors. Actually that seems pretty appropriate.
You are guarnateed at least one radio per mission you just have to pay RL money to access them. By next update they will be charging you $9.99 every time you want to open and run the NML. I warned everyone long ago to stop fueling ngo's greed by buying all those packs and no one listened now look at what they have done to the game. Im honestly surprized they are not charging us for each post we make on this forum at this point.
@Shadowkeeper Why are you asking for our opinion and suggestions now? It's been requested countless times that NG create a player advisory board and/or allow player beta testing to review updates and get feedback before they're released to the general player base. NG didn't listen. Oldgoth said there would be other ways to earn tokens weeks ago. If you didn't have a plan for how that system would work, then why mention it?
So now you're saying that NG floated this idea but didn't have a way to execute it. Seriously?
Tokens should be universal or the number required to update traits should be SIGNIFICANTLY reduced.
Tokens should be available from all crate rewards, numbers increasing with silver and gold chests
Fix the random number of hero tokens received (??!??)
I hope you're reading all the comments from players on this forum regarding this update. Players have offered lots of suggestions to fix this broken update. I've been around a while and I've never seen this much unhappiness. There is usually whining after changes, but this is different and I hope NG recognizes that.
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I think I figured out why Daryl's ability isn't working. See the picture shows 14% at epic level (4) so based on how other things look it's an error that will probably get corrected on a future update.
NG posted this regarding how his trait works...
"Daryl Dixon (Hunter)
- Silent Shot: Ranged attacks have X% chance of not creating threat"
Since "X" isn't a number it isn't part of the RNG (1-100) and therefore why it never goes off. It's like describing what the color purple smells like or describing what air tastes like. When something is impossible to calculate (like the square root of negative 25) it's called an imaginary number.
In the range of 1-100, X is imaginary.
But in all honesty has anyone had Daryl's leader trait work? Even once?
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@NG@Shadowkeeper Need to consider an across the board compensation. 1.10 and 2.0 were executed far from perfectly and there were mistakes made that are significant to many players. And not some little "token" amount - it needs to be on par with the problems you have introduced.
In regards to the nerfing: I'm a veteran of many games on many platforms & I can understand what's going on because things need to be balanced to work with future game additions and improvements. (In particular with removing survivor level cap and the changing equipment system & many increasingly difficult Story Missions.)
HOWEVER - When players have forked over extra cash money for game assets, you can't simply nerf them without partial refund or compensation. I don't remember being informed that my money is only paying for a license and you are free to take my purchase back or decrease its value any time you want. If that's the case, then I would not buy the items. When I buy something from you I cannot take it home and lock it up from thieves and evil nerfers. I am trusting you to honor the money I paid for it since you are holding onto the item I bought.
I don'tknow why everyone isggiving ng a hard time aabout making money. It's what they are there to do.
Othergames i have played have also nerfed things. But theydid it by releasing new things all the time.
So you could get the best item tostay on top, but the next month there would be a newer better item to have to buy to be on top.
For people who bought a weapon with Silenced Trait, contact Apple or Google Play, tell them you bought a product that was later reduced in quality, and ask for a refund. They will refund your $. They will probably refund your purchases for other items as well, but asking for a refund on a changed product is much more morally acceptable and not devious at all.
If you bought a movie in HD quality, then it was later changed to SD, they'd give you a refund for that. Buying a Weapon with 60% value on a Trait, only to have it reduced to 30% is the exact same thing. Nothing wrong with getting your money back for that purchase.
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I just think that at the moment it seems pretty unobtainable to earn enough of one kind of token to be able to unlock a character and also upgrade them. We've got tokens for each kind of normal survivor and tokens for each new hero at the moment. That's 14 different kinds of tokens in total :-O If you made it so that the heroes all shared one 'Hero token' and possibly even made all the normal survivors all share a 'Survivor token' it'd be so much better. Unlocking and upgrading new heroes and old survivors would suddenly seem a lot more obtainable and appealing to players.
What do you guys think? Just having the 2 types of tokens instead of 14 different types of tokens would be far more preferable to the current system in my eyes...
Forced to accept daryl prior to knowing his level was going to be determined by radio tent which had essentially been not worth upgrading since patch where survivors max lvl removed. And why give him a special weapon that cant be upgraded to current weapons tent max value? I can upgrade items from lvl 19 to lvl 22 but his crossbow can only go from lvl 16 to lvl 19?
We have a new class of survivors introduced, we then spend our radios and try to get some, then after several hours of people doing so, theres suddenly this 8 days of hero's announced. Great! radios all spentand all we get are ads for radio bundles, and you wonder why we cry foul.
What I'm getting at is where is the communication? Finding out via other media that new hero's will be coming?
What else has changed in 2.0? People complainig of survivors being nerfed, is this just anotber change ng don't want to admit/inform us of yet? Personally i haven't noticed the change yet but I've guild members who have and i believe them. Just waiting to find example where i notice it as well.
Ng needs to take the information given to us more seriously, more lead time between telling us and implementing it.
And more importantly a massive increase in the amount of detail. Not, we're going to update the game sometime this week (or better yet next week) but the actual time and date and while details may change here is what is proposed.
Stop the teaser [email protected] and take us seriously. It might be alright if you are a mod or content creator who gets told everything prior to everyone else, but after watching that video of michonne today i now know why stupid changes are being made. Never seen such bad tactical moves being made in game from the start, assault runs up to tank and doesnt shoot? Or was it just this non-existant nerfing (shooter used to take out that lvl tank)? Had to stop watching.cant see that person working their way from lvl 13 up to lvl 19 without spending thousands or getting bonuses for being content creator. Who ever thought to promote that vid? If i was to make changes I'd start there.
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I guess this post is directed at anyone whom is close to aquiring enough tokens to unlock a new hero AND currently has the max number of survivors they can hold.
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update: I could have just looked at my number of survivors and counted not including the hero and seen that. Doh!!
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What gets me is the nerfs, the lack of fixing anything we ask for like autocenter, and the damn low lvl grind for stars.
I'm leaving my guild because I just can't find any enjoyment playing challenges over and over again for useless stars and useless gear.
And for the last two weeks, radio's have dropped to less than one a day for me.
You are guarnateed at least one radio per mission you just have to pay RL money to access them. By next update they will be charging you $9.99 every time you want to open and run the NML. I warned everyone long ago to stop fueling ngo's greed by buying all those packs and no one listened now look at what they have done to the game. Im honestly surprized they are not charging us for each post we make on this forum at this point.
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I can see the difference and their visual bug excuse is to just keep us blinded from what really happend
So now you're saying that NG floated this idea but didn't have a way to execute it. Seriously?
Tokens should be universal or the number required to update traits should be SIGNIFICANTLY reduced.
Tokens should be available from all crate rewards, numbers increasing with silver and gold chests
Fix the random number of hero tokens received (??!??)
I hope you're reading all the comments from players on this forum regarding this update. Players have offered lots of suggestions to fix this broken update. I've been around a while and I've never seen this much unhappiness. There is usually whining after changes, but this is different and I hope NG recognizes that.
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NG posted this regarding how his trait works...
"Daryl Dixon (Hunter)
- Silent Shot: Ranged attacks have X% chance of not creating threat"
Since "X" isn't a number it isn't part of the RNG (1-100) and therefore why it never goes off. It's like describing what the color purple smells like or describing what air tastes like. When something is impossible to calculate (like the square root of negative 25) it's called an imaginary number.
In the range of 1-100, X is imaginary.
But in all honesty has anyone had Daryl's leader trait work? Even once?
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HOWEVER - When players have forked over extra cash money for game assets, you can't simply nerf them without partial refund or compensation. I don't remember being informed that my money is only paying for a license and you are free to take my purchase back or decrease its value any time you want. If that's the case, then I would not buy the items.
When I buy something from you I cannot take it home and lock it up from thieves and evil nerfers. I am trusting you to honor the money I paid for it since you are holding onto the item I bought.
Othergames i have played have also nerfed things. But theydid it by releasing new things all the time.
So you could get the best item tostay on top, but the next month there would be a newer better item to have to buy to be on top.
No refunds! Visual bug you know;)
For people who bought a weapon with Silenced Trait, contact Apple or Google Play, tell them you bought a product that was later reduced in quality, and ask for a refund. They will refund your $. They will probably refund your purchases for other items as well, but asking for a refund on a changed product is much more morally acceptable and not devious at all.
If you bought a movie in HD quality, then it was later changed to SD, they'd give you a refund for that. Buying a Weapon with 60% value on a Trait, only to have it reduced to 30% is the exact same thing. Nothing wrong with getting your money back for that purchase.
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