Now THAT communications should be right there in the announcements section or somewhere else where as many people as possible will notice it. In my opinion it really gives hope for a workable solution in the forseeable future. Even the token issue being improved, as in: much more opportunity to get them, and get them in much greater quantity, and possibly even being able to chooce to successfully hunt for a specific kind of token.
I was already just sticking around to see the updates, but now I'm sure I'll stick around. If it turns out as it sounds to me, I'll be happy.
Good things are on the way everyone...I believe this 110% and in the GC's efforts with NG...unfortunately there are no definitive timetables but just hang in there a bit longer...to those that have faith and patience we'll get there
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@SlickRick I think we can say with confidence, that the people still hanging in here, have infinate patience
But, because the blue hides my blonde, can someone explain the details I'm missing please? I mean, I'm gathering from that correspondence, they are, going to....change the low level challenge grind...some time...make announcements sooner....introduce more hero token availability...and essentially change the game around, and have it based on the heros and tokens....
To me, the biggest concern is the luck nerfing...
It slipped out last week...was admitted to...then silence...
I'm not convinced the luck change will happen...this is my own personal opinion...and if it does happen I'm not overly concerned...I can live with 45% dodge seeing that 60% dodge has always been ridiculous
And I have 33 legendary survivors all with level 5 luck and every single one of them using a weapon with silver or gold luck...so I should be as upset as anyone...but I'm perfectly okay with a more realistic game if that's the way it goes.
They're referring to the countless repeatable maps...most specifically Graveyard where people were scoring well over 1000...a game is better off if it's about skill...not who has the highest luck and most time and gold
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Hi folks. Just read the note from Joonas. For me the biggest impact to my game is they are FINALLY dealing with the low-level mission grind. Nothing else in the game mitigates my desire to play more than being a high level player having to slug through worthless gas-consuming missions that I've already beaten a cajillion times already. Thank you and good night.
* I put "hero" and "heroes" in quotes for a reason. ** Still on a spending boycott of equipment and gas booster and gold.
Keep iT up GC! Thanks for all THE efford. And Thanks to NG for listening
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I too have an entire bunch of survivors built around those traits that have been a cornerstone of the game since the beginning...it took a lot of playing time and rl $...I don't know if you've played other games, but like this one, most involve a large investment of time, so saying someone who is spending time is not as good as someone with skill is redundant..these games are made for a broad range of players...some have skill..does that mean they should be the only ones playing and enjoying this game? I don't have the game skill others have so I put in time...I think that's allowed.....as far as luck goes, you make it sound like its "real" luck, which it is not...it is a component of the game that could be called anything, that took people a lot of effort and $ to acquire...
Basically your implying that the peeps at the top (I'm not one) have no skill in the game and only got there through legitimate aspects of the game that you don't approve of...anymore
If you are fine with what NG is doing then you really don't represent others in the community who are not happy with it...I understood the point of this guild council, and completely respect the efforts made on behalf of everyone, but just because you personally approve of what's going on, should not mean the rest of us have to suddenly feel the same and fall in line with you....
Rick, this is not personal...your one of my favorite forum peeps, you know that...but I spent $ and my time to get an aspect of this game that's been here since the beginning, and which I felt confident would stay part of the game because it's been a cornerstone...it's like someone investing in kfc and then finding kfc are about to take the special seasonings away...something they had that built the company around...
I've played many games, and whilst they all make changes, none of them take away the most worked for component of the game...
I do have hope...that's why I didn't download some other games I was checking out....
But here's my issue...this game was created...peeps like me fell in love with it...then they added what they thought would be a much approved new element...outposts...they spent a lot of resorses on it, however it was flawed from the start, so it made what could have been fun, into a widely avoided disaster. To this day, I don't think I've talked to anyone about outposts who likes it...however, for some mysterious reason, NG keep pushing it on us...to the point that they will destroy their original game in order to accommodate it.
If they are that confident of outposts being a viable, enjoyable "thing", why not make it a separate game instead of wrecking this one.
Outpost is ok just need some tweaks as well as challenge and exploration maps and story maps ect.
Almost every aspect of the game need some love if we want to play it for months.
Don't get me wrong...I liked outposts when it was first released...I was in there raiding non-stop...but the bugs made it unplayable...and it wasn't ever more fun than the original game.
You're drawing a lot of conclusions based on something I said was my "personal" opinion
First: this news about Luck came out after the GC was already working on other issues with NG that had been causing our friends to leave the game
Second: when the Luck news came out...and despite my personal feelings...I strongly expressed to NG that making these changes to Luck would cause damaging/serious issues with the player base...others like @walker_say_what and @Japes87 expressed similar opinions and can vouch for what I said
Third: I don't WANT them to change Luck at all...but I can simply understand there is some logic behind doing it
Fourth: those in the GC and that know me understand I have not done any of the GC stuff for me personally...I could have continued just spending my money and been perfectly fine...but I was upset that I was losing friends from the game and also that my friends were upset.
You said the following: "If you are fine with what NG is doing then you really don't represent others in the community who are not happy with it...I understood the point of this guild council, and completely respect the efforts made on behalf of everyone, but just because you personally approve of what's going on, should not mean the rest of us have to suddenly feel the same and fall in line with you...."
I'm pretty sure everyone in the GC and the talks with NG (including @jester@WeekOne@Japes87@Andrius among others) can vouch that I have done nothing but spend my time trying to help the players and make the game better...I have my opinions like everyone else but I always have gone with the consensus of the group...to imply otherwise without knowing my actions is very harsh imo.
I get you're upset over this possible change...but there is a difference between us having 2 different opinions and you questioning my motives and actions...I hope you can see this from my perspective
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I honestly have no idea...I know I'm personally preparing for it to go either way
I think if they do decide to go through with it that it will be quite awhile before it happens
All I do know is we made our feelings abundantly clear on the subject...and NG has worked very well with the GC and been very open and responsive with us...so I have some hope on this
P.S. I know this is vague lol...sorry...but it's really like a 50-50 thing imo
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@MizTy I doubt they'll reconsider... based on the hero traits and packages they've been offering recently, they seem pretty set on it.
@SlickRick@jester@Japes87 (and other GC members) although the Luck nerf is inevitable, I would strongly encourage you guys to talk to NG about ways to ease the transition for players that have built up their teams based on Luck. I know many people have scrapped legendary survivors and equipment simply because they don't have Luck. While nerfing Luck will suck for a lot of people, if NG gave us full XP or some combination of radios, TGs, tokens, etc. to rebuild our teams, it would go a long way toward preserving some goodwill with the community.
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@SlickRick .. I have a question that keeps coming up in my Guild, if you don't mind..
If they change or stop low level grinding in Challenges.. Doesn't that mean less Stars for us?
Do you know how this is going to change? Or is there anything you can tell us about it?
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They haven't given us any details tbh...but I would highly doubt it would affect the current star/map level structure without changing the personal and guild reward TG structure...which would be making unnecessary work...not impossible of course I just don't see them doing that
If we hear anything though we'll pass it along
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Yup... The " Survivor Fighters " that we have painfully developed, will be Followers, and not Leaders...
The blunders by NextGames is consistent...
The " Longtime Players " will suffer...
My only hope is a " Transition Compensation " to Hero play...
Truthfully... NextGames, could have refused to talk to The Guild Council... But they are talking...
@SlickRick has shirked his duties on this Board for a long time... He was a fun & enjoyable Board Member, but since the " Guild Council " formed and the " No open wallet " appeared, @SlickRick has been just about business on this Board... The Business of helping this game...
I miss reading about his perverted exploits...
I am easily confused by other people's, laziness and sloppiness and greed...
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Nerfing the luck stack after so many players built their entire team of survivors and their weapons around luck, is like the NFL deciding to ban the foward pass after I spent my top draft choices on Payton Manning and Jerry Rice.
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I was already just sticking around to see the updates, but now I'm sure I'll stick around.
If it turns out as it sounds to me, I'll be happy.
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Good things are on the way everyone...I believe this 110% and in the GC's efforts with NG...unfortunately there are no definitive timetables but just hang in there a bit longer...to those that have faith and patience we'll get there
@SlickRick I think we can say with confidence, that the people still hanging in here, have infinate patience
But, because the blue hides my blonde, can someone explain the details I'm missing please? I mean, I'm gathering from that correspondence, they are, going to....change the low level challenge grind...some time...make announcements sooner....introduce more hero token availability...and essentially change the game around, and have it based on the heros and tokens....
To me, the biggest concern is the luck nerfing...
It slipped out last week...was admitted to...then silence...
I'm still being patient...or maybe just blonde
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I'm not convinced the luck change will happen...this is my own personal opinion...and if it does happen I'm not overly concerned...I can live with 45% dodge seeing that 60% dodge has always been ridiculous
And I have 33 legendary survivors all with level 5 luck and every single one of them using a weapon with silver or gold luck...so I should be as upset as anyone...but I'm perfectly okay with a more realistic game if that's the way it goes.
Hang in there on the rest
@blynknz
They're referring to the countless repeatable maps...most specifically Graveyard where people were scoring well over 1000...a game is better off if it's about skill...not who has the highest luck and most time and gold
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"...a game is better off if it's about skill...not who has the highest luck and most time and gold" - nothing more to add.
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I'm glad your ok with it....I'm not
I too have an entire bunch of survivors built around those traits that have been a cornerstone of the game since the beginning...it took a lot of playing time and rl $...I don't know if you've played other games, but like this one, most involve a large investment of time, so saying someone who is spending time is not as good as someone with skill is redundant..these games are made for a broad range of players...some have skill..does that mean they should be the only ones playing and enjoying this game? I don't have the game skill others have so I put in time...I think that's allowed.....as far as luck goes, you make it sound like its "real" luck, which it is not...it is a component of the game that could be called anything, that took people a lot of effort and $ to acquire...
Basically your implying that the peeps at the top (I'm not one) have no skill in the game and only got there through legitimate aspects of the game that you don't approve of...anymore
If you are fine with what NG is doing then you really don't represent others in the community who are not happy with it...I understood the point of this guild council, and completely respect the efforts made on behalf of everyone, but just because you personally approve of what's going on, should not mean the rest of us have to suddenly feel the same and fall in line with you....
Rick, this is not personal...your one of my favorite forum peeps, you know that...but I spent $ and my time to get an aspect of this game that's been here since the beginning, and which I felt confident would stay part of the game because it's been a cornerstone...it's like someone investing in kfc and then finding kfc are about to take the special seasonings away...something they had that built the company around...
I've played many games, and whilst they all make changes, none of them take away the most worked for component of the game...
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Can we have a hope?
I do have hope...that's why I didn't download some other games I was checking out....
But here's my issue...this game was created...peeps like me fell in love with it...then they added what they thought would be a much approved new element...outposts...they spent a lot of resorses on it, however it was flawed from the start, so it made what could have been fun, into a widely avoided disaster. To this day, I don't think I've talked to anyone about outposts who likes it...however, for some mysterious reason, NG keep pushing it on us...to the point that they will destroy their original game in order to accommodate it.
If they are that confident of outposts being a viable, enjoyable "thing", why not make it a separate game instead of wrecking this one.
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Almost every aspect of the game need some love if we want to play it for months.
Exactly! It's a game on its own, that should have challenge and explorable maps etc...not one that should negate the original more enjoyable game
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You're drawing a lot of conclusions based on something I said was my "personal" opinion
First: this news about Luck came out after the GC was already working on other issues with NG that had been causing our friends to leave the game
Second: when the Luck news came out...and despite my personal feelings...I strongly expressed to NG that making these changes to Luck would cause damaging/serious issues with the player base...others like @walker_say_what and @Japes87 expressed similar opinions and can vouch for what I said
Third: I don't WANT them to change Luck at all...but I can simply understand there is some logic behind doing it
Fourth: those in the GC and that know me understand I have not done any of the GC stuff for me personally...I could have continued just spending my money and been perfectly fine...but I was upset that I was losing friends from the game and also that my friends were upset.
You said the following:
"If you are fine with what NG is doing then you really don't represent others in the community who are not happy with it...I understood the point of this guild council, and completely respect the efforts made on behalf of everyone, but just because you personally approve of what's going on, should not mean the rest of us have to suddenly feel the same and fall in line with you...."
I'm pretty sure everyone in the GC and the talks with NG (including @jester @WeekOne @Japes87 @Andrius among others) can vouch that I have done nothing but spend my time trying to help the players and make the game better...I have my opinions like everyone else but I always have gone with the consensus of the group...to imply otherwise without knowing my actions is very harsh imo.
I get you're upset over this possible change...but there is a difference between us having 2 different opinions and you questioning my motives and actions...I hope you can see this from my perspective
Do you have a sense of whether NG is really-for-sure going to unstack luck, or is it something they are open to reconsidering?
I honestly have no idea...I know I'm personally preparing for it to go either way
I think if they do decide to go through with it that it will be quite awhile before it happens
All I do know is we made our feelings abundantly clear on the subject...and NG has worked very well with the GC and been very open and responsive with us...so I have some hope on this
P.S. I know this is vague lol...sorry...but it's really like a 50-50 thing imo
@SlickRick @jester @Japes87 (and other GC members) although the Luck nerf is inevitable, I would strongly encourage you guys to talk to NG about ways to ease the transition for players that have built up their teams based on Luck. I know many people have scrapped legendary survivors and equipment simply because they don't have Luck. While nerfing Luck will suck for a lot of people, if NG gave us full XP or some combination of radios, TGs, tokens, etc. to rebuild our teams, it would go a long way toward preserving some goodwill with the community.
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If they change or stop low level grinding in Challenges.. Doesn't that mean less Stars for us?
Do you know how this is going to change? Or is there anything you can tell us about it?
There Are However.. Plenty of Stupid Answers!!
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They haven't given us any details tbh...but I would highly doubt it would affect the current star/map level structure without changing the personal and guild reward TG structure...which would be making unnecessary work...not impossible of course I just don't see them doing that
If we hear anything though we'll pass it along
AMC, absolutely does not want the Heroes to be anything, but powerful Leaders...
So @tammy, " what has to happen ? "
Yup... The " Survivor Fighters " that we have painfully developed, will be Followers, and not Leaders...
The blunders by NextGames is consistent...
The " Longtime Players " will suffer...
My only hope is a " Transition Compensation " to Hero play...
Truthfully... NextGames, could have refused to talk to The Guild Council... But they are talking...
@SlickRick has shirked his duties on this Board for a long time...
He was a fun & enjoyable Board Member, but since the " Guild Council " formed and the " No open wallet " appeared, @SlickRick has been just about business on this Board...
The Business of helping this game...
I miss reading about his perverted exploits...
Any guess who might " now " be on my list, ( in 2017 )