@Ruthless Weapons have their own damage properties. Not every Scout weapon will have the same scale. This has been true of every alternative-function weapon we have made in the past, so I'm not sure we gave any indication that it would be higher.
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@ level 23 the damage is close to that of a level 22 weapon of equivalent rarity, with the gold lethal its within 60 damage of a level 23 blade.
Although there is a damage reduction, its nothing like what you get if you compare it to a warrior weapon, or if you compare the damage of a pistol vs a rifle.
We're having a meeting about new weapons later this week! Maybe we can get some new ones in early next year. Any suggestions?
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We're having a meeting about new weapons later this week! Maybe we can get some new ones in early next year. Any suggestions?
How about an actual shield for bruisers? One they bash into the walkers? Throwing knifes(/ninja stars) would also be pretty badass, not sure what class it would suit best, but silent and deadly for sure. And what about a slingshot? Or a version with stink bombs that will make you invisible to the affected range (they can't smell you out anymore.. that is until you make a move that has them notice you).
@Shteevie there were many suggestions for weapons quite a few months ago, +1 to @FRAGZIE suggestion of opening a new thread.
Lol I'd almost say this weapon is a spoiler for those that haven't seen new Season yet, but it's pretty bad @ss seeing scouts run around and using the spear, glad NG made a nice animation for it.
I'm fairly sure that a spear in no way could ever be considered a spoiler. Unless I guess it turns out that it's the Spear of Destiny/ Lance of Longinus that pierced Christ's side.
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Although I think this weapon is pretty cool I can't help but feel it further divided the game between those that are FTP and those that are PTP. I mean we're all playing the same game right? Those that pay get better weapons and thus a better advantage.
It's different than buying gold or a regular weapon with specific desired traits. In those instances you're typically just speeding things up (healing, buildings, gear) or buying an item that has the traits you desire that are already introduced into the game and accessible by all.
As per the forum rules I'm not going to comment on the thread about the "rift starts today" when boosters were first introduced.
Bringing in weapons like this that give paying players a strategic advantage in a game that is listed in the App Store as free is clearly favoring those with deep pockets.
As a player do I get the ability to not get matched up with an outpost that has a defender that has this weapon, or Morgan's staff or any of the other weapons in this game that has "special" traits? If not it's hardly fair that we are all playing the same game since we all don't have the same opportunities... Unless we pay...
Just my thoughts on this. It's a cool weapon and one I'm sure I'll face in an outpost along with any other ideas for special weapons that require spending money to play in this downloadable free game.
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@DLich I don't really have an issue with being F2P as it's a single player only game. It's when the game is player vs player *cough*Clash Royale*cough* that the F2P vs P2P shows how much of a disadvantage you are at. Even with outpost raids I wouldn't call that PvP since the AI controls the other characters reactions.
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@DarkZero I agree outposts is not a good example of pvp I look back when I first joined the forums and the endless farming of XP on 7.4 and 9.3. Don't get me wrong, I'm happy there are boosters available like the gas one, and that XP is no longer linear (5 XP per level of Walker) but the XP cap put in place was to prevent free players playing in a fashion that the developers never meant to happen.
So the introduction of these special weapons (and by the looks of it there's plans for more) the developers are intent on players purchasing with real money these "super weapons).
What's next? A rifle that has an area spray like an assault? A pistol that lets you shoot through multiple enemies like a rifle. An assault weapon that guarantees not to have a body shot? A knife that allows you to hit multiple enemies on overwatch?
We already have a bruiser weapon that acts like a warriors weapon. Now this one that allows you to hit 2 people as a scout.
I'm not saying NG is a money grab because these weapons are cool. But it can hardly be considered an even playing field when the only way to obtain them is through money.
People can use gold to buy outfits. Those outfits don't give the player buying them any strategic advantages. Oh there's another idea.
Call it the "Walker" bundle. 1,000 Gold, an outfit that makes you impervious to walkers (like camouflage i.e. "Walker blood covered") and full supplies for $49.99. Then watch the game get out of hand lol.
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Can I get a shield with it too. This would look so awesome on Glenn.
Glenn doesn't need a shield, just a helmet would be good......
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@DLich Basically it boils down to something that everyone has to accept when it comes to "Freemium" games: 99% of the time, Free to Play players will NOT be on an "even playing field" because developers and companies can't work for free. First and foremost, it's a business and the main priority of businesses is to make money by providing a product or service. I'm Free to Play but you have to remember that people who pay are the ones that keep the company going which allows for new content in the game to be developed. You need to offer something of value that will entice people to pay and more often than not, that means stuff that F2P players won't get. It's just a trade-off for playing a "free" game. However with that, there has to be a balance between the value and turning a game into Pay to Win, which nothing I've seen so far seems to suggest that you MUST have these items to beat anything.
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A question to @Shteevie about using this weapon with Jesus as a leader. His trait reads "all non-ranged attacks...". So will this weapon get the bonus as it is a "ranged" attack now
Pass. Until NG provides an upgrade path, spending money on weapons is a waste. If you do have a lot of coin to waste, go ahead. But with the constant nerfing and eventual diminished usability as you go up levels, just be warned and fully informed on the cons of your purchase. It's really funny how they goad us to spend hundreds of dollars for weapons and then change the value of your purchase for "balancing". No thank you.
On the other hand, I do appreciate NG's effort to listen to some of our concerns in making other positive changes.
In summation, they need to respect the value of purchases by not lessening it's function/attributes and also to characters. Cut the 100 zombie killing as that is plain laziness on part of programmers as they can implement face/eye contact to prevent auto-farming. They should allow players free rein to farm as long as they want if they are investing the time and energy for it. Bring back all original traits and enough of these artificial limits. FREEDOM!
I would agree on others about discussing with your team about lifting the weapon level cap for purchased items. I think that will make it more appealing for many and will boost your sales exponentially. It's a win-win situation for both the consumer and company.
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Weapons have their own damage properties. Not every Scout weapon will have the same scale. This has been true of every alternative-function weapon we have made in the past, so I'm not sure we gave any indication that it would be higher.
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Although there is a damage reduction, its nothing like what you get if you compare it to a warrior weapon, or if you compare the damage of a pistol vs a rifle.
Its ironic you mentioned a spear in the katana thread and now we have a spear!!!
Hopefully you can hint us more weapons
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Lucy has a big spear.
Lol I'd almost say this weapon is a spoiler for those that haven't seen new Season yet, but it's pretty bad @ss seeing scouts run around and using the spear, glad NG made a nice animation for it.
It's different than buying gold or a regular weapon with specific desired traits. In those instances you're typically just speeding things up (healing, buildings, gear) or buying an item that has the traits you desire that are already introduced into the game and accessible by all.
As per the forum rules I'm not going to comment on the thread about the "rift starts today" when boosters were first introduced.
Bringing in weapons like this that give paying players a strategic advantage in a game that is listed in the App Store as free is clearly favoring those with deep pockets.
As a player do I get the ability to not get matched up with an outpost that has a defender that has this weapon, or Morgan's staff or any of the other weapons in this game that has "special" traits? If not it's hardly fair that we are all playing the same game since we all don't have the same opportunities... Unless we pay...
Just my thoughts on this. It's a cool weapon and one I'm sure I'll face in an outpost along with any other ideas for special weapons that require spending money to play in this downloadable free game.
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So the introduction of these special weapons (and by the looks of it there's plans for more) the developers are intent on players purchasing with real money these "super weapons).
What's next? A rifle that has an area spray like an assault? A pistol that lets you shoot through multiple enemies like a rifle. An assault weapon that guarantees not to have a body shot? A knife that allows you to hit multiple enemies on overwatch?
We already have a bruiser weapon that acts like a warriors weapon. Now this one that allows you to hit 2 people as a scout.
I'm not saying NG is a money grab because these weapons are cool. But it can hardly be considered an even playing field when the only way to obtain them is through money.
People can use gold to buy outfits. Those outfits don't give the player buying them any strategic advantages. Oh there's another idea.
Call it the "Walker" bundle. 1,000 Gold, an outfit that makes you impervious to walkers (like camouflage i.e. "Walker blood covered") and full supplies for $49.99. Then watch the game get out of hand lol.
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So will this weapon get the bonus as it is a "ranged" attack now
On the other hand, I do appreciate NG's effort to listen to some of our concerns in making other positive changes.
In summation, they need to respect the value of purchases by not lessening it's function/attributes and also to characters. Cut the 100 zombie killing as that is plain laziness on part of programmers as they can implement face/eye contact to prevent auto-farming. They should allow players free rein to farm as long as they want if they are investing the time and energy for it. Bring back all original traits and enough of these artificial limits. FREEDOM!
I would agree on others about discussing with your team about lifting the weapon level cap for purchased items. I think that will make it more appealing for many and will boost your sales exponentially. It's a win-win situation for both the consumer and company.
Thank you!