@NG: More heroes, make more challenge similiar to season 7, that required only specific hero to play, and got only hero tokens for reward. It's the only way to avoid our new heroes jobless, i think
1. Thanx NG for this free hero, and his weapon! 2. How the hell am I going to find enough phones to make any of them usefull?
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Problem with Heroes is the pools getting too diluted, so adding a non cannon character is a bit misguided at best.
With many more heroes to be added during the games lifespan i think the whole hero unlock and progression system needs a serious look at as its already at the point where its impossible to get anywhere with them.
@GreySeer I agree, I enjoyed the games own characters and their own stories, never thought it an enhancement to bring in the show more. Shiny and new and interesting yes... But in some ways ultimately a distraction from having less new gameplay content. Until they started the Series 7 missions I guess. I still took Rufus Santa vibe and all
When the threat counter reaches zero each of your survivors gain a charge point! Does it apply also if you use him defending your outpost?
-There is no threat counter in Outpost play, since the walker arrival is triggered by opening the gate. So Squirrel's Courage only povides a Health boost to survivors in attack or defense of Outposts.
As for the number of heroes available, we're well aware of the number that we have, and are tracking the results of calls made to make sure that players are getting results the way we expect them to. Of course, having more heroes does reduce the chances that any particular hero comes up in a call, but it also means that we have more Heroes to include in earnable rewards. I would expect that we'll have more ways for you to hunt for tokens, possibly even choosing which heroes you want the most, as time goes on. I know we already have some planned, and it's just a matter of finding the time and prioritizing the schedule.
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Can you set other survivors and heroes on fire in outpost with him? Can you set freeman on fire? That might be his redeeming grace. Otherwise I would like to see him be one of the tokens only come from certain mission characters like Negan so it doesn't affect out radio calls and diluting the pool.
This is a TWD game. Who is Rufus in that universe? Does anyone remember moonshine bottles being used as weapons in the show? Never heard of Chris Hardwick! Did I miss an entire season of my single most favourite show? This feels more like comedy Z-Nation.
Talking dead comes on right after walking dead does on AMC Is the ultimate fan show Chris Harwick is a great host
Only thing I regret is that I unlocked him before upgrading at least one of my survivors to level 18. Dang!
Also wish we could get a better version of his weapon, it's fun but at level 17 common it will only be good for low level challenge missions pretty soon which would be a shame. It's part of the fun.
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Only thing I regret is that I unlocked him before upgrading at least one of my survivors to level 18. Dang!
Also wish we could get a better version of his weapon, it's fun but at level 17 common it will only be good for low level challenge missions pretty soon which would be a shame. It's part of the fun.
I just upgraded all my srvrs to 18's this past weekend, so I got a level 18 Rufus and a level 18 moonshine jug I upgraded the jug to level 19 and took him on some normal scavenge missions
Rufus did a good job of roasting large groups of level 17 walkers Not sure I could use him on high level missions But, just like regular assaults with rifles, they are good at softening up big groups of higher level walkers so you can take them out with some other class
I always start the Challenges off with a couple assaults because they can wipe the place clean quickly In and out fast as possible on the early challenges I leave the assaults home when the walker levels get up too high for them
So I'll take Rufus out just for some fun now and then
@All Look in your trade goods shop. For 300 tgs I was able to buy a rare moonshine jug with interesting traits. So there's hope for better Rufus-inspired gear (of course I'll still have to shell out the xp to upgrade it, but what the heck? It sets enemies on fire! How cool is that?)
This Rufus thing is really making me think twice about this game...
1. He's not on the show. We have enough "heroes" already.
2. Last thing I want is another old bearded guy. I've painstakingly curated my survivors to be predominantly of the Charlie's Angels variety. So now I'm either forced to have this old bearded guy or to stare at a purple "free" for the next year or so...
3. I understand you guys are European so you might not understand the nuance, but a "hillbilly" character throwing jugs of moonshine is foolishly stereotypical, offensive to Southerners and it is lazy, insulting and racist period. If that's what you think of me and my descendants then if I continue to play this game, I sure as hell will not be spending any more $. This is what the Talking Dead guy thinks of Georgians? He had a chance to design a character and that's the best he could do?
@MadPuppy I am sending you a PM to further explain why this is inappropriate for the game. Maybe you can relay it to Next?
What's next a hero inspired by the YouTube people that NG hired to make videos while clearly not knowin anything about the game. Heroes should be just that, heroes and not someone stuck in the game by a commentator. To me it's not consistent with the rest of the heroes and the show.
I never liked hardwick because he is a walking spoiler and says he doesn't know what happens yet he always drops clues and hints that are always accurate spoilers. I wish the delete button was available on this hero and this is coming from someone who likes a lot of the heroes. This isn't just insulting to people from the south but people who enjoy TWD which is most of us.
His trait is horribly named too. If you want to stick with the alcoholic southern hillbilly redneck theme it should be called liquid courage and not squirrel's courage. His special attack might as well be called meth lab explosion although most people in the south cooking meth aren't using labs they're using plastic Pepsi bottle.
Well this certainly is an interesting variety of reactions. Everyone is the best expert on their own opinion, but in case it's of interest to anyone, here are a few points of trivia:
1) Mr. Hardwick was the sole creator of the character, whom he fashioned after his own great-grandfather. Mr. Hardwick also wrote and approved the quotes / names / etc. associated with the character. If you believe he intends disrespect for his own family, I would beg to differ. 2) The image and concept of the character is not some sort of statement about the views Finns or Europeans in general have about Americans. I'm an American myself, having only lived in Europe for 3 years now, and with relatives in the South. I personally would have taken issue with a blatantly offensive caricature. 3) Re: "Squirrel's Courage": That's the joke [woosh?] 4) Glenn also makes a molotov out of Bob's [?] whisky bottle, using it to distract the horde at the Prison after the attack so that he and Tara can escape together. I think we can agree that a weapon / tool like this is in the ballpark of the show's themes and portrayals. 5) Everything we add to the game, especially something this visible, comes with the express permission and approval of AMC. In this case, I'd say about 20 hours of conference calls, emails, approvals, and conversations with AMC went into the planning and execution of the feature. If you disagree with how well the character fits into the world of the Walking Dead, I suggest you take it up with AMC directly. Maybe they will accept you as a more definitive arbiter of propriety.
I think the hero is fun to use, adds something new to the game, and hopefully the majority of the fans of the game feel similarly. I'll also paraphrase any number of wise men and women in saying that if you can't laugh at yourself from time to time, certainly others will do the laughing for you.
Maybe it's a good moment to remember that this is a game, and not the most serious thing you will do today. Take a deep breath, pick your favorite characters [whomever they might be] and go bust up some walkers.
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Any chance we can get a decent quality variety of his weapon otherwise the guys uniqueness is wasted. Ive seen the rare appear in the TG store but rare dont cut it and is a waste of xp or is the legendary variety being reseverd for an overpriced IAP.
I see your POV Shteevie, but still....Rufus ain't any kind of "hero" (no relation to the show, zero, null) and it hurts a little that he's another participant of Grand Token Roulette like i said before...it'll be different story if he was just a ordinary character, which those of us who don't want him can just disband and voila, problem solved, but no. NG talks a lot about making wide field of choices for players, so to speak....but yet this is another example of something opposite imho... And please anyone, don't use "you don't need to unlock him" argument, what kind of choice is that when there's that annoying violet "new" sign flashing probably to the end of the times (and we can't hide him in charcter menu either..). That's mine POV and sorry if it sounds chaotic, I'm just upset about it
Rare's good enough for challenges up to even +2, for Hard Scavenges, Outpost, etc.
Plus, we need to make sure that while Rufus is memorable and fun, he doesn't overshadow the show cast.
Might do a bundle down the road, and if people like them, different kinds of grenades as well. I wonder if we can do a flashbang that stuns Freemen and attracts walkers to a point?
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I got the joke about squirrel's courage it's just that it wasn't very funny at all nor a joke I've ever heard before. I think if you wanted to make the trait have some sort of name that was funny you could have come up with something better and run it by AMC during those meetings.
Not every idea NG or AMC come up with is going to be a good idea or liked by all so don't take it so seriously. No need to start getting worked up about Rufus. It would completely be a non issue though if it didn't affect radio calls. If you had radio call results like I have with a complete lack of gold survivors from the ranged weapons classes you wouldn't find it funny either.
@TheSittingDuck Leaving him unclaimed won't change the state of the radio calls.
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The idea of a "moonshiner" style character already dances with the line Apple draws with the depiction of alcohol; this isn't a line we wanted to cross, as it might have delayed the release of the feature. So a rhyme, an obvious reference and a reinforcement of the squirrely theme of the character is the joke.
We tried dancing for you, but you didn't enjoy it. Maybe we need silly hats? Definitely need to add silly hats.
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I love the forums, they never fail to amuse. Rednecks, most of you are out of this conversation. Sit down. I'm not sure exactly what a redneck is, but I am a hillbilly from the hills and of solid hillbilly stock. Our ancestral lands are forested and it's pretty hard to get sunburns on our necks. I know my identity, and the culture and history of Appalachian-Americans. Some Southerners are--most aren't. You don't get to call cultural appropriation if you are in an outgroup. Apparently Hardwick is one of us. So unless you also get up in arms about African-American comedians mining comedy about stereotypes in and of their communities, put the outrage away.
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1. Thanx NG for this free hero, and his weapon!
2. How the hell am I going to find enough phones to make any of them usefull?
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With many more heroes to be added during the games lifespan i think the whole hero unlock and progression system needs a serious look at as its already at the point where its impossible to get anywhere with them.
As for the number of heroes available, we're well aware of the number that we have, and are tracking the results of calls made to make sure that players are getting results the way we expect them to. Of course, having more heroes does reduce the chances that any particular hero comes up in a call, but it also means that we have more Heroes to include in earnable rewards. I would expect that we'll have more ways for you to hunt for tokens, possibly even choosing which heroes you want the most, as time goes on. I know we already have some planned, and it's just a matter of finding the time and prioritizing the schedule.
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The Varmint blast charge is awesome!
Is the ultimate fan show
Chris Harwick is a great host
Also wish we could get a better version of his weapon, it's fun but at level 17 common it will only be good for low level challenge missions pretty soon which would be a shame. It's part of the fun.
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I upgraded the jug to level 19 and took him on some normal scavenge missions
Rufus did a good job of roasting large groups of level 17 walkers
Not sure I could use him on high level missions
But, just like regular assaults with rifles, they are good at softening up big groups of higher level walkers so you can take them out with some other class
I always start the Challenges off with a couple assaults because they can wipe the place clean quickly
In and out fast as possible on the early challenges
I leave the assaults home when the walker levels get up too high for them
So I'll take Rufus out just for some fun now and then
Look in your trade goods shop. For 300 tgs I was able to buy a rare moonshine jug with interesting traits. So there's hope for better Rufus-inspired gear
1. He's not on the show. We have enough "heroes" already.
2. Last thing I want is another old bearded guy. I've painstakingly curated my survivors to be predominantly of the Charlie's Angels variety. So now I'm either forced to have this old bearded guy or to stare at a purple "free" for the next year or so...
3. I understand you guys are European so you might not understand the nuance, but a "hillbilly" character throwing jugs of moonshine is foolishly stereotypical, offensive to Southerners and it is lazy, insulting and racist period. If that's what you think of me and my descendants then if I continue to play this game, I sure as hell will not be spending any more $. This is what the Talking Dead guy thinks of Georgians? He had a chance to design a character and that's the best he could do?
@MadPuppy I am sending you a PM to further explain why this is inappropriate for the game. Maybe you can relay it to Next?
I never liked hardwick because he is a walking spoiler and says he doesn't know what happens yet he always drops clues and hints that are always accurate spoilers. I wish the delete button was available on this hero and this is coming from someone who likes a lot of the heroes. This isn't just insulting to people from the south but people who enjoy TWD which is most of us.
His trait is horribly named too. If you want to stick with the alcoholic southern hillbilly redneck theme it should be called liquid courage and not squirrel's courage. His special attack might as well be called meth lab explosion although most people in the south cooking meth aren't using labs they're using plastic Pepsi bottle.
1) Mr. Hardwick was the sole creator of the character, whom he fashioned after his own great-grandfather. Mr. Hardwick also wrote and approved the quotes / names / etc. associated with the character. If you believe he intends disrespect for his own family, I would beg to differ.
2) The image and concept of the character is not some sort of statement about the views Finns or Europeans in general have about Americans. I'm an American myself, having only lived in Europe for 3 years now, and with relatives in the South. I personally would have taken issue with a blatantly offensive caricature.
3) Re: "Squirrel's Courage": That's the joke [woosh?]
4) Glenn also makes a molotov out of Bob's [?] whisky bottle, using it to distract the horde at the Prison after the attack so that he and Tara can escape together. I think we can agree that a weapon / tool like this is in the ballpark of the show's themes and portrayals.
5) Everything we add to the game, especially something this visible, comes with the express permission and approval of AMC. In this case, I'd say about 20 hours of conference calls, emails, approvals, and conversations with AMC went into the planning and execution of the feature. If you disagree with how well the character fits into the world of the Walking Dead, I suggest you take it up with AMC directly. Maybe they will accept you as a more definitive arbiter of propriety.
I think the hero is fun to use, adds something new to the game, and hopefully the majority of the fans of the game feel similarly. I'll also paraphrase any number of wise men and women in saying that if you can't laugh at yourself from time to time, certainly others will do the laughing for you.
Maybe it's a good moment to remember that this is a game, and not the most serious thing you will do today. Take a deep breath, pick your favorite characters [whomever they might be] and go bust up some walkers.
Please note: Development is a fluid process, and suggestions and implementation take time and iteration. Any discussion of future features, deadlines, updates, balance changes, and such should be considered prospective and subject to change.
And please anyone, don't use "you don't need to unlock him" argument, what kind of choice is that when there's that annoying violet "new" sign flashing probably to the end of the times (and we can't hide him in charcter menu either..).
That's mine POV and sorry if it sounds chaotic, I'm just upset about it
Plus, we need to make sure that while Rufus is memorable and fun, he doesn't overshadow the show cast.
Might do a bundle down the road, and if people like them, different kinds of grenades as well. I wonder if we can do a flashbang that stuns Freemen and attracts walkers to a point?
Please note: Development is a fluid process, and suggestions and implementation take time and iteration. Any discussion of future features, deadlines, updates, balance changes, and such should be considered prospective and subject to change.
Not every idea NG or AMC come up with is going to be a good idea or liked by all so don't take it so seriously. No need to start getting worked up about Rufus. It would completely be a non issue though if it didn't affect radio calls. If you had radio call results like I have with a complete lack of gold survivors from the ranged weapons classes you wouldn't find it funny either.
Leaving him unclaimed won't change the state of the radio calls.
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We tried dancing for you, but you didn't enjoy it. Maybe we need silly hats? Definitely need to add silly hats.
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