When a " Board Member " is banned, that " Banned Board Member " can still post, they can still use the " PM system " to communicate with others...
But. The " Board software " does not allow anyone else, to view their " New Posts " ( just a part of the Board Software ) but the " Banned person " can see what, they themselves have typed...
I know this from expierence...
Sigh...
( cyber dolphin might be banned... I don't know... But @censorhip would see things as such... )
I am easily confused by other people's, laziness and sloppiness and greed...
Any guess who might " now " be on my list, ( in 2017 )
> @CYBERDOLPHIN8 said:
> @kryptonix
>
> So Conquer Managed it again to nerf something down, so they can try to keep up with everybody else ^^
>
> Well done, but at least we all got our Money back, and NG lost many paying customers too.....
>
> Let's see what's next .....
>
> How about nerfing the distance of Scouts ^^ lol......
Oh snap the forum police caught me, guess I shouldn't have outed myself so easily.
@WeekOne I'm not really sure what 'click' you're referring to. I'm the leader of a bunch of crazies in the Asylum! And I just call them like I see them. The man/woman comes on here and does nothing but rail against those who feel they've been wronged by NG. If that's not cheerleading, then I don't what is! Of course he's entitled to his opinion, but so am I. Now, are you done cheering for little Helio or would you like to get back on topic!
@ant It doesn't take a rocket scientist to pinpoint "the click" but that's not what I want to discuss.
After the nerfing of the reckonin, I silently read each and every comment made on this thread. I don't like personal attacks against a person... Never have and never will... You can accept that of me or not, either way I don't care!
Shteevie and Teeceezy have been attacked several times on this thread and I feel it is unfair. They are human beings who are sincerely trying to help us. Because they are the front line, some take it out on them really bad. It can be very rough at times. I'm actually surprised they are still on these threads chatting with us.
I am not a cheerleader but I am also not a fan of ganging up on one person '"unfairly" and I can only take so much before I decide to jump in.
So... here is what I have said on this thread regarding this issue: 1) I agree with the changes made 2) Not happy that it wasn't discovered prior to us even receiving the very first reckoning (I recall saying if it was discovered prior we wouldn't be having this discussion) 3) Empathise with players who feel wronged and agree that people should be compensated and that I felt the 1min gas wasn't enough to appease the players 4) Been in players shoes before and wasn't able to get a refund. I survived and am still here.
As there have been so many comments, maybe some of my comments have been missed. So I hope this sets the record straight once and for all as to my views on what happened with The Reckonin.
@kryptonix the quality of the guilds? WTF are you smoking on? How in the hell can you or NG or anybody else for that matter know the quality of each and every single guild?
Longevity makes sense but quality? What you see from the outside isn't always what's happening on the inside. Quality imo is in the eye of the beholder so it's biased
Always use 2 posts when one might do. Keep in mind, there is an edit button @CYBERDOLPHIN8
@JVC_TWD obviously I can't tell you the inner workings of the guilds. But as far as score potential goes right now the scores are closer then they have ever been, with the delta between 1st and 50th actually being somewhat balanced.
As for a long time I have tracked guild scores week after week, we are in a better place then 6 months ago.
@CYBERDOLPHIN8 There have been witch hunts against Shteevie and Teeceezy... if you refuse to see it, not my problem.
I believe you will get better results when dealing with a difficult situation by remaining calm, respectful, and with tact. And sometimes, you might not get the answer you were hoping for, choose to accept it or not, and move on.
I will say it again... been there, done that. I survived my disappointment and am still here today.
That's great you feel that way but I wasn't talking to you lol @WeekOne
I was talking to @kryptonix and trying to get an understanding of how the leaderboards can represent the "quality" of guilds. I mean, he must have an idea of how to do that.
Just curious. @C_Lloyd, no disrespect intended, but aren't you in Conquer? I believe anyone else would have gotten a warning for continually hijacking the topic, and baiting so many other posters.
Retired, but not entirely dead. "Really? Good luck with that!"
I don't really have a dog in this fight, but I think we need to simplify things.
NG admitted they made a mistake. A mistake that cost at least some people money (my guess is the vast majority of people who bought the legendary reckoning).
Do you know what people like to hear in this situation? An unqualified apology and a real offer to make them whole. Here, we got a pseudo apology with a "good luck on your refunds." In fact, we got less than a pseudo apology...we got a not-so-thinly veiled implication that at least some of the player base was corrupt and fraudulently pursuing refunds for invalid reasons. I've been a pretty big fan of @Shteevie on here for communicating with us, but that was maybe the single-most tone-deaf thing I've ever seen on this forum, and that's saying A LOT. And clearly, there has not yet even been the slightest whiff of an appropriate "fix" to this situation.
I do not endorse any personal attacks on here at all. But I also disagree with what appears to be a "bunker mentality" response by NG here. Please understand that, whether or not you intentionally pulled a bait and switch here, a reasonable person (most of your customers) could absolutely perceive this chain of events as such. Especially given fairly recent history with NG "balancing" gear shortly after sale. So simple good PR/business strategy would be to try to nip that in the bud.
For the record, I do not personally believe NG intended to defraud people here. But they could walk a whole lot farther down the road of trying to disprove that perception than adding a fourth day to a three-day weekend event.
@Artisans I am in Conquer, yes. Well, the bottom of their guild's as I don't do the competitive scene anymore. But that doesn't mean I give any leniency.
There has been a large number of rule breaking by several members on this thread so I have done my best to keep it to a minimum while still allowing some discussion. Extreme cases have been dealt with but as long as its not gotten out of hand I have been trying to just redirect the conversations back on track. I have had an extremely busy evening, thus I haven't had the time to deal with every infraction so their's been more free speech than usual. Usually the people of the forum are happy when that happens Can't win them all I guess.
I hope from here on out we can keep everything civil and on topic. The next Mod to walk through here may not be so lenient. Have a great night/morning/afternoon/evening everyone! Continue your discussions but please keep the rules in mind and try your best to follow them.
@all I'm the next mod that walked in. I don't have Lucille but Negan is a wimp compared to me so keep civil. Tonight I am very disappointed at the forum behavior.
Me! Me! I'm semi disappointed....... Confused, a smidge buzzed ( might as well use the reckoning for something). I didn't purchase the legendary bundle but I was tempted because the rare reckoning I bought in the tg store kicked ASS! It was helpful in the challenge and was just cool....... Such a waste of xp upgrading it.........So, guess I'll just drink the moonshine.
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When a " Board Member " is banned, that " Banned Board Member " can still post, they can still use the " PM system " to communicate with others...
But. The " Board software " does not allow anyone else, to view their " New Posts " ( just a part of the Board Software ) but the " Banned person " can see what, they themselves have typed...
I know this from expierence...
Sigh...
( cyber dolphin might be banned... I don't know... But @censorhip would see things as such... )
Any guess who might " now " be on my list, ( in 2017 )
> @kryptonix a lot of competition in the leaderboards just no rewards lol
Agreed my slight to the competition is with the ongoing issue with the display of the leaderboards and not about the quality of the guilds.
But I also feel with real rewards available the competition would be much more exciting.
> @kryptonix
>
> So Conquer Managed it again to nerf something down, so they can try to keep up with everybody else ^^
>
> Well done, but at least we all got our Money back, and NG lost many paying customers too.....
>
> Let's see what's next .....
>
> How about nerfing the distance of Scouts ^^ lol......
Oh snap the forum police caught me, guess I shouldn't have outed myself so easily.
KCCO buddy!
After the nerfing of the reckonin, I silently read each and every comment made on this thread. I don't like personal attacks against a person... Never have and never will... You can accept that of me or not, either way I don't care!
Shteevie and Teeceezy have been attacked several times on this thread and I feel it is unfair. They are human beings who are sincerely trying to help us. Because they are the front line, some take it out on them really bad. It can be very rough at times. I'm actually surprised they are still on these threads chatting with us.
I am not a cheerleader but I am also not a fan of ganging up on one person '"unfairly" and I can only take so much before I decide to jump in.
So... here is what I have said on this thread regarding this issue:
1) I agree with the changes made
2) Not happy that it wasn't discovered prior to us even receiving the very first reckoning (I recall saying if it was discovered prior we wouldn't be having this discussion)
3) Empathise with players who feel wronged and agree that people should be compensated and that I felt the 1min gas wasn't enough to appease the players
4) Been in players shoes before and wasn't able to get a refund. I survived and am still here.
As there have been so many comments, maybe some of my comments have been missed. So I hope this sets the record straight once and for all as to my views on what happened with The Reckonin.
Longevity makes sense but quality? What you see from the outside isn't always what's happening on the inside. Quality imo is in the eye of the beholder so it's biased
@JVC_TWD obviously I can't tell you the inner workings of the guilds. But as far as score potential goes right now the scores are closer then they have ever been, with the delta between 1st and 50th actually being somewhat balanced.
As for a long time I have tracked guild scores week after week, we are in a better place then 6 months ago.
I believe you will get better results when dealing with a difficult situation by remaining calm, respectful, and with tact. And sometimes, you might not get the answer you were hoping for, choose to accept it or not, and move on.
I will say it again... been there, done that. I survived my disappointment and am still here today.
As far as I'm concerned we are the best irregardless of the leaderboards... as far are you're concerned you are the best. Both guilds are AWESOME!
BOOM!
As far as I'm concerned, there is NOT one guild in the Top 50 Global that isn't an AWESOME guild.
I was talking to @kryptonix and trying to get an understanding of how the leaderboards can represent the "quality" of guilds. I mean, he must have an idea of how to do that.
And I know you just wanted to tag me because of your secret crush on me... otherwise you would have just ignored me
Thank you
"Really? Good luck with that!"
NG admitted they made a mistake. A mistake that cost at least some people money (my guess is the vast majority of people who bought the legendary reckoning).
Do you know what people like to hear in this situation? An unqualified apology and a real offer to make them whole. Here, we got a pseudo apology with a "good luck on your refunds." In fact, we got less than a pseudo apology...we got a not-so-thinly veiled implication that at least some of the player base was corrupt and fraudulently pursuing refunds for invalid reasons. I've been a pretty big fan of @Shteevie on here for communicating with us, but that was maybe the single-most tone-deaf thing I've ever seen on this forum, and that's saying A LOT. And clearly, there has not yet even been the slightest whiff of an appropriate "fix" to this situation.
I do not endorse any personal attacks on here at all. But I also disagree with what appears to be a "bunker mentality" response by NG here. Please understand that, whether or not you intentionally pulled a bait and switch here, a reasonable person (most of your customers) could absolutely perceive this chain of events as such. Especially given fairly recent history with NG "balancing" gear shortly after sale. So simple good PR/business strategy would be to try to nip that in the bud.
For the record, I do not personally believe NG intended to defraud people here. But they could walk a whole lot farther down the road of trying to disprove that perception than adding a fourth day to a three-day weekend event.
Just my two cents.
There has been a large number of rule breaking by several members on this thread so I have done my best to keep it to a minimum while still allowing some discussion. Extreme cases have been dealt with but as long as its not gotten out of hand I have been trying to just redirect the conversations back on track. I have had an extremely busy evening, thus I haven't had the time to deal with every infraction so their's been more free speech than usual. Usually the people of the forum are happy when that happens
I hope from here on out we can keep everything civil and on topic. The next Mod to walk through here may not be so lenient. Have a great night/morning/afternoon/evening everyone! Continue your discussions but please keep the rules in mind and try your best to follow them.
-C_Lloyd
There are rules.
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Edit: Was it announced in the Announcement section of the forum? Now I'm second guessing myself.
Weirdness...... I don't see it anymore either.