I don't think It's about envy, rather because It's not logic at all. It's like sending in flyweight fighter to fight a heavyweight. How do you think that would end?
I beg the different. Strategy and thinking can outweigh the heavyweight! it is a strategy and tactical game no?
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I've got an analogy for you guys, that are so vehemently against LLS: Remember the days when most of us were kids, and we actually went outside to play? Well, in those days there was usually a "rich" kid that always had the cool ball. Leather, perfectly round and bounced just as is was supposed to. Now that kid, he made the rules of the game... he always decided what the next game would be, since it was his ball. And the rest of the kids, were given a choice: play the game the kid (owner of ball) chose, or go play something else. It was a really simple choice, and we made it in a blink with no hard feelings in between us. Now... why can't you people do the same? Why do you even consider that a valid third option would be to completely destroy the ball? You think that if the game is too hard for you than none should play it? Or if you simply do not want to play it, then others should't either? Common people... get with it, or don't, just don't demand that the fun to be taken out, only because you don't like it, or can't do it.
@WeekOne said Yes... I did say I believe it to be an exploit @Amazayn
Sorry but are we in a church? There you can believe. It is officially no exploit. Accept it. Let people use LLS if they want to. Don't use them if you don't want to use them. As I have learned ... you don't care about leaderboards. So wtf do you keep bragging about LLS??? LLS are against your idea of game mechanics? So why don't you develop and release your own game?
Although it's great you are working on LLS issues,
I really hope you guys don't nerf wrestler. Why implement this buff in the first place if NG plans to take it away? There were also many bundles offered with wrestler traits.
A few months back you mention we would not be seeing anymore nerfs and I really hope we are not baited and switched up again!
Since interrupt has been taken away, Wrestling gives many opportunities for players to push through and 1 star maps especially with the new challenge rework.
In the end, if NG does decide to nerf wrestling, then please bring back some more strategic gameplay like interrupt or something to compromise with wrestling nerf.
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So you would say Mayweather would have had a chance against prime Tyson? It is a tactical game but there are limits.
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I'm amazed at the barely covered aggression we are seeing in this thread, fiercely trying to defend an losing position.
If all other players have to watch the players using LLS pile up starz in those missions and challenges that allow for it, those some players might have to stand reading about some people politely asking the developers to close said loophole.
If someone doesnt like to read this, pls just move on and read another thread. We are not having our entire guild and our friends to post in here to counter the illusion everybody is ok with using LLS or any other loophole.
Telling us/me to 'stfu' or using similar highschool bullying tactics will not make us just go quiet.
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Pile up stars, I'll watch, lol. I could care less and am watching this thread soley for the lulz, as it surely delivers. NG came out and said it was not an exploit, the challenge structure naturally limits its effectiveness, you obviously need some beast mode HLS on your team to even get to the point where it's viable, and only where it's viable. It's a non-issue. If I had a 9th level scout, I'd expect them to heal in 10 sec, because that's about how generally useful they are in the game. My legendary 20's should take longer, they are useful for more and more valuable. How about my novel solution-'make all missions deadlies. That would take care of this and so much more...
@Putchuco wrote: If someone doesnt like to read this, pls just move on and read another thread. We are not having our entire guild and our friends to post in here to counter the illusion everybody is ok with using LLS or any other loophole.
Is this irony that I don't understand? I guess the lls-haters are just a minory (otherwise they would have more likes). Lls-haters are just the loudest... but I hope they don't get what they want just because they are loud. And just because they are loud ... they ain't right
"We are not having our entire guild and our friends to post in here to counter the illusion everybody is ok with using LLS or any other loophole."
I don't think anyone believes that "everyone" is ok with using LLS, or this wouldn't be a thread to begin with. There are three main camps, it seems.
Camp 1 is the group of players that want the LLS strategy eliminated. Camp 2 is the group of players that use LLS as a legitimate strategy, because despite Camp 1's repeated attempts to work the words "loophole," "cheat," and "unfair advantage" into every one of their posts, the mods have stated clearly in this and other threads that LLS is a strategy, and one that only works in a very limited amount of scenarios (this was proven beyond the shadow of a doubt last week, when LLS was basically useless, and scores were HIGHER).
Camp 3, the biggest group, doesn't use LLS, but also doesn't care that Camp 2 does use them, because players in Camp 3 have no desire to limit the game for other players. I'm firmly in Camp 3. I'm at 883 stars, and may not get more (thanks Armored Compound and Road Runner). I will likely never even crack the local Top 50, and that's fine. I have a lot of fun playing for my guild, and seeing our name on the US and World boards is just the cherry. The interaction with my guildmates is the sundae.
I'm still waiting to hear how the use of LLS is "damaging to the gaming community," as someone alleged upthread, because I'm having a blast. Good luck and good hunting, everyone!
ETA: Was able to squeak past Armored Compound and Road Runner 25.1. Now at 910 and resting comfortably in the hospital.
I guess NG could somehow limit retrying maps.. for example one retry could be done immediately but with next retries you must wait one hour at each time.
I guess NG could somehow limit retrying maps.. for example one retry could be done immediately but with next retries you must wait one hour at each time.
Isn't the 6/6 thing not already enough to limit and restrict players from just playing and having fun with this game?
The 6/6 is already a big fun- and mood-killer for me and i don't know how long i will still playing this game with this current system. For me it's no fun if i could still play 5 maps, but for example just 1 stupid kill em all map stops me from playing. Especially if i know how to beat this map without much strategy, but thanks "RNG Luck" i have not the armor that i need for complete it. This game is more and more a luck and gold digging game for me.
so if we get still more restrictions and more nerfs then i think i am done with this game. It isn't already that beautiful strategy game anymore that i loved so much in the past.
The One Thing that bothers me most is that there are players out there who just want play and have fun and never demands for restrictions, but then other players come and demands more and more restrictions and ask NG every day again to take away some sort of game mechanic that could possibly still be fun to other players. i can't remember that i asked one single time to take away some things from other players that could be fun for them.
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I believe it was said that there shouldn't be the same amount of and severity of nerfing in the future. Not that they would never nerf anything again.
Games of any sort, when more content is added, can birth unintended interactions that will require a nerf to be done to maintain game balance. I've seen it done for board games, RPG's, CCG's, MMORPG's and now with mobile app games. It is an inevitable occurrence when game designers/developers must account for a great deal of previous content when creating new content. They simply can't foresee all the possibilities. And there will always be creative and ingenious players [who] will find those cracks and make the game work in ways that were never previously thought of.
As players we have to hope that NG catches as much as possible and when they don't, simply realize that they are human, they will miss things, and move on to continue having fun with the game we love and enjoy.
To be on topic: I'm not a star chaser, I don't care about leader boards, I don't use LLS and I don't have any interest in traveling that avenue of game play. I say play the game to have fun and in a "legal" way. NG has stated that LLS is not an exploit/bug. That's the end of it, they are the final arbiter. There's no gray area here to be debated. Continuing to pursue the topic of LLS and trying to get it removed causes those crusaders to come across as petty and vindictive, much like a nosy neighbor who is more interested in fixing others problems than worrying about their own.
In the words of a great songwriter, "Let it be, let it be."
"I always say, if you must mount the gallows, give a jest to the crowd, a coin to the hangman, and make the drop with a smile on your lips." -Birgitte Silverbow, The Fires of Heaven, The Wheel of Time
"Death is lighter than a feather. Duty, heavier than a mountain." - al'Lan Mandragoran, The Great Hunt, The Wheel of Time
Seems like you sure need LLS to 1 star all these lvl 26.4!
Wrestling did help in some situations at a high cost and long wait times in the hospitol , but that was not the only thing needed to pull through all of these maps.
Therefore, once/if wrestling is nerfed, whats the point of even pushing so far when there will just be a roadblock that will just lead to a grumesome death at a high hospitol cost
At least right now we have the opportunity to push through and possibly get that 1 star.
Just hope there will be a counterbalance to the wrestling nerf that will add more strategic gameplay like interrupt did.
LOL @KaLi Damn, i just saw on your screenshot you have to pay 560 Gold for healing all your survivors!!! what a bargain!!!! LOL
really, i know no other Game where i have to pay so much Gold for just playing a lil bit and having fun. it's unbelievable. But if you don't pay then you can't play... seems that's the new strategy by NG ... pay or wait and wait aaaaaaand waaaaaaaiiiiiitttt.
Somewhere we get to a point where we do more wait than playing!
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Remember the days when most of us were kids, and we actually went outside to play? Well, in those days there was usually a "rich" kid that always had the cool ball. Leather, perfectly round and bounced just as is was supposed to. Now that kid, he made the rules of the game... he always decided what the next game would be, since it was his ball. And the rest of the kids, were given a choice: play the game the kid (owner of ball) chose, or go play something else. It was a really simple choice, and we made it in a blink with no hard feelings in between us.
Now... why can't you people do the same? Why do you even consider that a valid third option would be to completely destroy the ball? You think that if the game is too hard for you than none should play it? Or if you simply do not want to play it, then others should't either?
Common people... get with it, or don't, just don't demand that the fun to be taken out, only because you don't like it, or can't do it.
How to apply?
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Yes... I did say I believe it to be an exploit @Amazayn
Sorry but are we in a church? There you can believe. It is officially no exploit. Accept it.
Let people use LLS if they want to. Don't use them if you don't want to use them. As I have learned ... you don't care about leaderboards. So wtf do you keep bragging about LLS??? LLS are against your idea of game mechanics? So why don't you develop and release your own game?
So damn annoying....
Although it's great you are working on LLS issues,
I really hope you guys don't nerf wrestler. Why implement this buff in the first place if NG plans to take it away? There were also many bundles offered with wrestler traits.
A few months back you mention we would not be seeing anymore nerfs and I really hope we are not baited and switched up again!
Since interrupt has been taken away, Wrestling gives many opportunities for players to push through and 1 star maps especially with the new challenge rework.
In the end, if NG does decide to nerf wrestling, then please bring back some more strategic gameplay like interrupt or something to compromise with wrestling nerf.
Thank You
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> I beg the different. Strategy and thinking can outweigh the heavyweight! it is a strategy and tactical game no?
So you would say Mayweather would have had a chance against prime Tyson? It is a tactical game but there are limits.
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> So you would say Mayweather would have had a chance against prime Tyson? It is a tactical game but there are limits.
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> Ever heard of that guy David? First LLS to ever be mentioned, I suppose...
Yes Jaden, I've read the bible.
If all other players have to watch the players using LLS pile up starz in those missions and challenges that allow for it, those some players might have to stand reading about some people politely asking the developers to close said loophole.
If someone doesnt like to read this, pls just move on and read another thread.
We are not having our entire guild and our friends to post in here to counter the illusion everybody is ok with using LLS or any other loophole.
Telling us/me to 'stfu' or using similar highschool bullying tactics will not make us just go quiet.
contact us via email at [email protected]
We are not having our entire guild and our friends to post in here to counter the illusion everybody is ok with using LLS or any other loophole.
Is this irony that I don't understand? I guess the lls-haters are just a minory (otherwise they would have more likes). Lls-haters are just the loudest... but I hope they don't get what they want just because they are loud. And just because they are loud ... they ain't right
I don't think anyone believes that "everyone" is ok with using LLS, or this wouldn't be a thread to begin with. There are three main camps, it seems.
Camp 1 is the group of players that want the LLS strategy eliminated. Camp 2 is the group of players that use LLS as a legitimate strategy, because despite Camp 1's repeated attempts to work the words "loophole," "cheat," and "unfair advantage" into every one of their posts, the mods have stated clearly in this and other threads that LLS is a strategy, and one that only works in a very limited amount of scenarios (this was proven beyond the shadow of a doubt last week, when LLS was basically useless, and scores were HIGHER).
Camp 3, the biggest group, doesn't use LLS, but also doesn't care that Camp 2 does use them, because players in Camp 3 have no desire to limit the game for other players. I'm firmly in Camp 3. I'm at 883 stars, and may not get more (thanks Armored Compound and Road Runner). I will likely never even crack the local Top 50, and that's fine. I have a lot of fun playing for my guild, and seeing our name on the US and World boards is just the cherry. The interaction with my guildmates is the sundae.
I'm still waiting to hear how the use of LLS is "damaging to the gaming community," as someone alleged upthread, because I'm having a blast. Good luck and good hunting, everyone!
ETA: Was able to squeak past Armored Compound and Road Runner 25.1. Now at 910 and resting comfortably in the hospital.
Those people are going to get the game nerfed to death if NG listens to them.
And then what? "Wahwahwah, the game used to be more fun back in the days, wahwahwah..."
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The 6/6 is already a big fun- and mood-killer for me and i don't know how long i will still playing this game with this current system. For me it's no fun if i could still play 5 maps, but for example just 1 stupid kill em all map stops me from playing. Especially if i know how to beat this map without much strategy, but thanks "RNG Luck" i have not the armor that i need for complete it. This game is more and more a luck and gold digging game for me.
so if we get still more restrictions and more nerfs then i think i am done with this game. It isn't already that beautiful strategy game anymore that i loved so much in the past.
The One Thing that bothers me most is that there are players out there who just want play and have fun and never demands for restrictions, but then other players come and demands more and more restrictions and ask NG every day again to take away some sort of game mechanic that could possibly still be fun to other players. i can't remember that i asked one single time to take away some things from other players that could be fun for them.
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Games of any sort, when more content is added, can birth unintended interactions that will require a nerf to be done to maintain game balance. I've seen it done for board games, RPG's, CCG's, MMORPG's and now with mobile app games. It is an inevitable occurrence when game designers/developers must account for a great deal of previous content when creating new content. They simply can't foresee all the possibilities. And there will always be creative and ingenious players [who] will find those cracks and make the game work in ways that were never previously thought of.
As players we have to hope that NG catches as much as possible and when they don't, simply realize that they are human, they will miss things, and move on to continue having fun with the game we love and enjoy.
To be on topic: I'm not a star chaser, I don't care about leader boards, I don't use LLS and I don't have any interest in traveling that avenue of game play. I say play the game to have fun and in a "legal" way. NG has stated that LLS is not an exploit/bug. That's the end of it, they are the final arbiter. There's no gray area here to be debated. Continuing to pursue the topic of LLS and trying to get it removed causes those crusaders to come across as petty and vindictive, much like a nosy neighbor who is more interested in fixing others problems than worrying about their own.
In the words of a great songwriter, "Let it be, let it be."
"Death is lighter than a feather. Duty, heavier than a mountain." - al'Lan Mandragoran, The Great Hunt, The Wheel of Time
Wrestling did help in some situations at a high cost and long wait times in the hospitol , but that was not the only thing needed to pull through all of these maps.
Therefore, once/if wrestling is nerfed, whats the point of even pushing so far when there will just be a roadblock that will just lead to a grumesome death at a high hospitol cost
At least right now we have the opportunity to push through and possibly get that 1 star.
Just hope there will be a counterbalance to the wrestling nerf that will add more strategic gameplay like interrupt did.
really, i know no other Game where i have to pay so much Gold for just playing a lil bit and having fun. it's unbelievable. But if you don't pay then you can't play... seems that's the new strategy by NG ... pay or wait and wait aaaaaaand waaaaaaaiiiiiitttt.
Somewhere we get to a point where we do more wait than playing!
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