WeekOne exploit? @Shteevie and @Teeceezy said it wasn't an exploitation, and both devs sent you a clear private message regarding to this topic, so please, can you just move on like everyone else is doing. it's just funny how you keep going back to this topic and you saw @Shteevie 's post if you look few pages from this thread.
Sure, they may not have said the word "exploit", but reading shteevie's post from page 5, they believe it to be an error that shouldn't happen and are looking at ways to fix it.
The issues about low-level survivors first appeared before the challenge rework was launched .... and we had designed and specced out a possible solution.
Clearly if they decide to nerf the wrestle or lls the game will become so hard to advance above lvl 25 that most players won't spend their time and money to try again and again for the same result. ..hours and hours in the hospital ...and lots of gold ...all this while your gas booster is running out...Hospital time already makes it easy to detach from the game. ..little by little ...until one day many won't feel the need to open this once great fun game...that's where I fear this game is heading too...get the player statistics out...you'll see that average play time for sure decreased after 2.4...
Yes, they do need to find a balance. They could halve the healing time or the gold cost to heal.
I have always found wrestling to be strange that it will insta kill, but after a certain level it doesn't insta-kill and it just breaks the struggle. They could also have that as a base value for all suvivors (i.e. 10%), and then the wrestling trait could be a bonus to that.
I haven't commented here because I don't really care about LLS personally and because the arguments have gotten out of hand. If you want to see how the adults handle disputes, please see this post. The only thing I don't like about LLS's is that someone who has upgraded their radio tower has less of a chance of getting lower level survivors than someone who hasn't which makes the strategy more difficult. But that's not what I'm here to talk about.
I had a bit if an epiphany of what could be changed to make everyone on both sides happy (well, as happy as some unhappy people can be on the internet) while waiting for my top survivors to heal to squeeze a few more stars our of this challenge. First, the problem isn't the wrestler trait... please don't take that away from people. Seriously, don't do it. Remember how wrestling was universally reviled and avoided? Some people want to use it now... that's a win. People have touched on hospital times and for me, if there's any issue at all here, that's the issue. But (best Morpheus voice) what if I told you that we could address this without nerfing anything? Normalize healing times... 2 hours at end game is pretty extreme. Instead of increasing LLS healing times, adjust max level healing times so they're significantly less. Boom, problem solved and many people are happy.
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I'm having fun now at 26.4...on getting burned I just had the pleasure at the first spawn to have 2 lvl 26 fatties...I feel so motivated to go on spending gold. ..hope to see 3 fatties next time. .
I'm having fun now at 26.4...on getting burned I just had the pleasure at the first spawn to have 2 lvl 26 fatties...I feel so motivated to go on spending gold. ..hope to see 3 fatties next time. .
Are they at least burning? Because normal fatties aren't enough fun. And how does your LLS fair against them?
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Sadly I have to say that NG keeps listening to the same wrong people instead giving atention to the best players they just implement changes asked out and born by pure ignorance and envy, by players that seemingly don't really understand the game mechanics as well as let's say top 3 world players...This practice just makes the game more boring and restrictive , bannes all fun and creativity , destroys the strategic part of the game, renders useless half of survivors(melee) and just turns the game in a point and shoot type of game that has no other viable strategie above lvl 24...All this for what...got to wonder why is so important to jump nerfing right and left every time certain players go down the leaderbords and start complaining...got to wonder if I should sell my expensive car...as my neighbour said he doesn't have one...ain't fair right...guess I should walk from now on...as he'll be happy then on his bike...
@Bill_ZRT why did you go and have to bring rational thought in here ? We don't welcome your kind around these parts .
Actually I completely agree with Bill (except I like using my LLS level 9 team that I built after my radio tower was maxed) but I'll just add that we need and are long overdue for a 4th healing spot. We also should be able to choose who heals in the queue .. it isn't bringing interrupt back, but close to as big of an improvement they could muster. @Shteevie maybe instead of commenting further on the LLS issue , you could let us know if an improvement to our hospitals is in the works?
@Japes87 Since you want to take it to that level, I must retort with a stinging personal attack of my own. Don't click on this link if you don't want to hear a lot of NSFW language. Anyway, @Japes87, this is how I feel about your opinion.
The hospital improvements would absolutely be a welcome change. An additional slot and lower healing times? Yes, please!
Everyone’s got two wolves inside them. One is anger, envy, pride. The other…truth, kindness. Every day they tear each other apart. But it’s not the better wolf that wins. It’s the one you feed.
............... I will take this opportunity to share with you that someone from this thread had all the specs to our new hero, Carl, weeks prior to his released, shared it on NML Guild Alliance FB group advising everyone to save their radios becasue Carl was the best hero to have, and he and another member of his guild had Carl unlocked within 1-2hrs of being released.
What?! forget the LLS debacle at the moment -- what the hell is this about! Are people actually getting information before hand/before official release, if so how? A cheat? A Hack? Insider information?... totally not cool to the rest of the community - Just saying.
............... I will take this opportunity to share with you that someone from this thread had all the specs to our new hero, Carl, weeks prior to his released, shared it on NML Guild Alliance FB group advising everyone to save their radios becasue Carl was the best hero to have, and he and another member of his guild had Carl unlocked within 1-2hrs of being released.
What?! forget the LLS debacle at the moment -- what the hell is this about! Are people actually getting information before hand/before official release, if so how? A cheat? A Hack? Insider information?... totally not cool to the rest of the community - Just saying.
Hmmm, i am wondering now, isn't it the same if 5 Players of Conquer was invited to the Beta Test of the challenge rework, but 0 players of my Sisters? So you got all your infos to the new challenge much earlier than my Sisters and me got, but do you see me whining about that fact here on the Forum?
Weird...
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............... I will take this opportunity to share with you that someone from this thread had all the specs to our new hero, Carl, weeks prior to his released, shared it on NML Guild Alliance FB group advising everyone to save their radios becasue Carl was the best hero to have, and he and another member of his guild had Carl unlocked within 1-2hrs of being released.
What?! forget the LLS debacle at the moment -- what the hell is this about! Are people actually getting information before hand/before official release, if so how? A cheat? A Hack? Insider information?... totally not cool to the rest of the community - Just saying.
It showed up on the forum on several days but the mods here deleted it as it broke rule #1. Showing you how to find it would also break rule #1.
Thanks Jester - I didn't know, so I suppose the cat is out of the bag --- nonetheless, having it deleted by the mods - doesn't actually fix that issue.... can put a lipstick on a pig, but its still a pig.
What?! forget the LLS debacle at the moment -- what the hell is this about! Are people actually getting information before hand/before official release, if so how? A cheat? A Hack? Insider information?... totally not cool to the rest of the community - Just saying.
I have no idea how, but there are definitely players that can find out info before others.
............... I will take this opportunity to share with you that someone from this thread had all the specs to our new hero, Carl, weeks prior to his released, shared it on NML Guild Alliance FB group advising everyone to save their radios becasue Carl was the best hero to have, and he and another member of his guild had Carl unlocked within 1-2hrs of being released.
What?! forget the LLS debacle at the moment -- what the hell is this about! Are people actually getting information before hand/before official release, if so how? A cheat? A Hack? Insider information?... totally not cool to the rest of the community - Just saying.
Hmmm, i am wondering now, isn't it the same if 5 Players of Conquer was invited to the Beta Test of the challenge rework, but 0 players of my Sisters? So you got all your infos to the new challenge much earlier than my Sisters and me got, but do you see me whining about that fact here on the Forum?
Weird...
1) Everyone had the opportunity to join beta test; on the public forum, I think TCZ comment was please DM or post if anyone is interested. 2) I'm not whining, Im merely bringing up the fact that is there something some are getting info on and others arent???? if you call that whining, sorry, I respectful disagree with you.
Hundreds of people in here saw it and had the information early. If some missed it, I don't know what to say. I just wanted to clear up that wrong accusation.
It showed up on the forum on several days but the mods here deleted it as it broke rule #1. Showing you how to find it would also break rule #1.
Thanks Jester - I didn't know, so I suppose the cat is out of the bag --- nonetheless, having it deleted by the mods - doesn't actually fix that issue.... can put a lipstick on a pig, but its still a pig.
Hundreds of people in here saw it and had the information early. If some missed it, I don't know what to say. I just wanted to clear up that wrong accusation.
thank you @jester interesting on how that individual actually got the info. ... oh well... I'm just commenting on part of a post that seemed to go overlooked. Had to reread it a few times.
The issue not that it was deleted, Jester... its on how it was come to knowledge without an official release to the whole of the community. Maybe someone would have saved 2K radios another week, maybe they wouldnt have... How deep does this go down the rabbit hole?
No problem. We've got a lot of new people on this forum and I'd hate to have them think people were cheating based on a forum post. Like I've said previously, I don't use lls, but respect those that choose to do so.
This issue was a side track to the main issue and I just wanted to clarify how that info was out there. Nobody in any of the top guilds did anything nefarious in this regard, not did NG provide information to only a few.
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I have always found wrestling to be strange that it will insta kill, but after a certain level it doesn't insta-kill and it just breaks the struggle.
They could also have that as a base value for all suvivors (i.e. 10%), and then the wrestling trait could be a bonus to that.
I had a bit if an epiphany of what could be changed to make everyone on both sides happy (well, as happy as some unhappy people can be on the internet) while waiting for my top survivors to heal to squeeze a few more stars our of this challenge. First, the problem isn't the wrestler trait... please don't take that away from people. Seriously, don't do it. Remember how wrestling was universally reviled and avoided? Some people want to use it now... that's a win. People have touched on hospital times and for me, if there's any issue at all here, that's the issue. But (best Morpheus voice) what if I told you that we could address this without nerfing anything? Normalize healing times... 2 hours at end game is pretty extreme. Instead of increasing LLS healing times, adjust max level healing times so they're significantly less. Boom, problem solved and many people are happy.
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Actually I completely agree with Bill (except I like using my LLS level 9 team that I built after my radio tower was maxed) but I'll just add that we need and are long overdue for a 4th healing spot. We also should be able to choose who heals in the queue .. it isn't bringing interrupt back, but close to as big of an improvement they could muster. @Shteevie maybe instead of commenting further on the LLS issue , you could let us know if an improvement to our hospitals is in the works?
The hospital improvements would absolutely be a welcome change. An additional slot and lower healing times? Yes, please!
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It showed up on the forum on several days but the mods here deleted it as it broke rule #1. Showing you how to find it would also break rule #1.
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Hmmm, i am wondering now, isn't it the same if 5 Players of Conquer was invited to the Beta Test of the challenge rework, but 0 players of my Sisters? So you got all your infos to the new challenge much earlier than my Sisters and me got, but do you see me whining about that fact here on the Forum?
Weird...
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1) Everyone had the opportunity to join beta test; on the public forum, I think TCZ comment was please DM or post if anyone is interested.
2) I'm not whining, Im merely bringing up the fact that is there something some are getting info on and others arent???? if you call that whining, sorry, I respectful disagree with you.
Sorry, I just had to lol
Maybe someone would have saved 2K radios another week, maybe they wouldnt have... How deep does this go down the rabbit hole?
No problem. We've got a lot of new people on this forum and I'd hate to have them think people were cheating based on a forum post. Like I've said previously, I don't use lls, but respect those that choose to do so.
This issue was a side track to the main issue and I just wanted to clarify how that info was out there. Nobody in any of the top guilds did anything nefarious in this regard, not did NG provide information to only a few.
Rule #1 should include animals too.
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Unfortunately I can't elaborate further on the matter as I don't speak for NG. Maybe a p.m. to @Teeceezy could help clear it up further.