Hospital Max Cap has changed, just FYI

Terminates

I noticed the healing cost passing the 25 Gold mark (from heavily injured) even after maxing the Hospital. I was going to upgrade everything slowly, but had to see for myself how much it has changed once the hospital has been maxed so that others can decide for themselves if it is worth it to upgrade anything at all.

As you can see the hospital has been maxed.


I quickly climbed up to Round 27 to test the hospital costs.


At Round 27, I purposely heavily injured all my survivors and ended the game. They are now 28 Gold each to heal. It used to be 25 Gold.


I recorded a few walkthrough videos at Round 26.3 and it was 28 Gold for Heavily Injured as well.

In case the players who usually surpass Round 25 are expecting the healing cost to be the same before the update....it is not.
The new hospital cap is now 28 Gold.

GrimGael

I'm shocked and surprised. Er well, not really.

Amazayn

the struggle is real

KaLi

@Terminates nice analysis and thank you for testing this out.

I really hope NG realized what they have done and then they probably will just nerf us some more

gespuer

That's not what was communicated by NG about "hospital-gate"! After upgrading the hospital to the actual max it should be back to 25 Gold in this case.
I smell a lie or at least stupidness.

Amiga

28 gold? I will not spend even single coin.

DLich

"Upgrading the Hospital will increase the healing time discount by an additional 15 minutes."

So the hospital time was lowered while the costs were increased. Hmm

NCDawgFan

@Teeceezy care to weigh in on this travesty of Fairplay??????

Warlord

@gespuer. What the NG devils with forked tongue said was that the healing time would be the same. That was true. What they didn't communicate is they also changed the gold to time ratio to make it more expensive for the same amount of time.

gespuer

You're right, @Warlord . I was stupid enough to assume what I was writing above.

EDIT: @Terminates Did you try to clean your cache?

DLich

Maybe it's just a 'visual error' and it's actually only 25 gold

Terminates

@gespuer That just made me giggle nonstop lolol

My cache is always clean

DLich

I'm on RSL 20.1 and entered a mission to flee and see if the rarity of the survivor/RSL level/Survivor level/rarity factored in. My hospital is at lvl 10 with a 1h Healing time reduction.

RSL 20.1; Heavily Injured Epic lvl 21 is 2h 26m with a gold healing of 26g
RSL 20.1; Heavily Injured Leg lvl 20 is 2h 27m with a gold healing of 26g
RSL 20.1; Heavily Injured Leg lvl 21 is 2h 27m with a gold healing of 26g

Heal time appears to be tied to the RSL which was changed after the LLS strategy was torn apart a while back.

Assuming I fast forward a month from now these same survivors on the same RSL would only take 2h 12m to heal the cost of gold healing might go down to 25 (I don't know just a guess).

But one would assume if heal time is tied into the RSL of the walkers being faced the higher we go in challenges the longer it would take to heal and therefore the more gold required to speed the process.

I just don't understand (like many on the forum) how an announcement of 15 minutes less heal times becomes the part of bringing you back to the way you were in 2.6 as teeceezy mentioned in the notes and then on top of that it costs more gold.

Terminates

@DLich Since heavily injured at round 26 was 28 gold for my survivors with maxed hospital, and at round 27 it was still the same, I am thinking the cap changed somewhere after Round 25? Round 25 it was at 27 Gold. I don't know the pattern of how the healing costs relates to RSL, but I do know 28 > 25 lol

David_H79

At least there will be a new awesome video from @Terminates

KristinM

I am a level 52 player. Prior to update a heavily injured survivor playing lvl 23 mission cost 25 gold to heal. Now those same survivors playing lvl 22 mission costs 29 gold. Is there a max gold or do I just get more screwed each level I power through????

NG - just my opinion but you should be upfront and forthcoming about changes/updates. Call it "rebalancing" or a "bug fix" like all the other changes. Trying to sneak it into the update, hoping players don't notice, is more frustrating than the actual changes.

Poppy

NG doing what NG do best.

vshield50

@Teeceezy ,

This is an all time low across the board. We have to find out about the increase gold cost for healing this way?

All the issues are out there so I will not rehash them but you and the company you work for have just lost a lot of face. I think it is disgraceful that you and your collegues knew of these changes and never said anything to your loyal customer base.

Again, this is an all time low. I for one would be ashamed of myself and I would do what I could to explain the "why" behind the decisions made here if I were in your position.

I now have to question the integrity of the company and some of those who work there. Absolutely disgraceful to say the very least...

DLich

I'd like to point out healing times and costs can be fixed and modified on the fly. It's been done many times for weekend events. It doesn't require an update to resolve this issue. Yes an update may be necessary for a permanent resolution (regarding the coding how it's generated) but there's a button that can be pressed or a switch that can be flicked to temporarily resolve this issue while a decision is in place.

There have been weekend events in the past where certain survivor types have 0 hospital time... I called that 'God Mode' happened last summer if I recall. Or events where survivors heal times are halved. So there's a way to make it 0% and 50% proven to be done on the fly. I assume 90% adjustment can be made while the devs "look into this".

But in actuality nothing will be changed since this was the "working as intended".

David_H79

Sorry I have to disagree without disagreeing.
The max hospital time was never 2:42.
It was something like 2:15 maybe 2:20 but not nearly 3 hours.
So if you have the new maxed hospital you still have longer healing times than before.

crambert_nec

Of course this happens lol. NG was wrong. Then they corrected themselves. Then they were wrong again.

David_H79

I think there was no change in gold price per healing time.
I will have a look after my first heavy injury.
After reaching (lol) the old max healing time I'm sure it will cost 25 gold to heal.

David_H79

I made a test.
My hospital has the old maximum.
I fleed from a mission RSL 22.
The heavy injury needs 2:35 for healing.
After reaching 2:22 the cost for healing was 25 gold. And I think the old max was even lower than 2:22.

So I would say no chances in gold per healing time, but still more healing time and therefore more gold for healing instantly.

Sebi

OK.As I was expecting the update to get low and dirty I didn't rush it...and because of this I will not spend a dime anymore on this game. ..and a hole lot of players won't do it either. ..at least not until this situation is resolved. My money are safe from NG greed...Carry on...

xbamfx

honestly with the results of this lackluster update I can say 100% id rather have went 6 months without another upgrade period. Hopefully the next update isn't til after new year 2018.

Sebi

Indeed...it's getting worse and worse by the update...

OneLessTitan

If you want to compare your new hospital times with your old ones, here's the OLD time chart, based on a pre 2.6 fully upgraded Hospital. The "LVL" column refers to the RSL of the mission challenge/scavenge mission. Fairly certain this is accurate. Perhaps I'll get around to the new chart when my CPU gets un-nerfed and this game stops punching me in my right testicle.

Shut_Up

Once again the players have done the work for NG because it doesn't look like anyone from NG did a full analysis. Thanks for the chart @OneLessTitan !

xbamfx

On a side note, excellent new videos on your channel @Terminates

Helio

My conspiracy theory:
This was done intentionally to upset everyone.
After enough attention, NG we reduce the hospital time and then say something like "we value the opinions of our players, and therefore we decided to reduce the hospital healing time by x amount."

Terminates

@xbamfx Oh thank you!