Lots of great stuff in this thread. Should be forwarded to NG's top dogs if they have any..
What's funny is I'd also be much more likely to buy a radio or gold bundle if upgrading all survivors was clear and cut the best move for me and my guild. I lost so much motivation with this update and have no desire to rush anything if it isn't ultimately going to help much.
Weapons and especially purchased weapon bundles. You should never pay for an item that way too soon becomes obsolete. I understand it's our choice to buy or not buy but there has to be tons of better options out there. There are plenty of people that would help with planning and input. I understand this all takes time, work, and more money but sometimes you need to spend more to make more.
Let's see more and more communication. Rfg is an awesome player and an even better guildmate. Listen to him!
Something I find extremely ironic is the devs not wanting players to be confused regarding tokens and whether or not to upgrade for the sake of getting more BUT when it comes to this topic there seems to be tons of confusion.
Players don't want to upgrade their survivors because they will lose stars. They are constantly placed in a confusing situation regarding if upgrading will be beneficial to them or not.
I certainly wouldn't want the token situation to be any more confusing than this star situation is regarding upgrading survivors and deliberately not unlocking Heros.
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Not yet @crambert_nec hold tight....it's coming soon
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I am trying to boil down all the info in this post so I can inform my guild about the upgrade penalty Some are in too big a hurry to raise the levels of their srvrs without having the proper gear in place before making the move up
3 or more Level 20 srvrs start on level 14 and 3 peats start at level 19 3 or more Level 21 srvrs start on level 15 and 3 peats start at level 20 3 or more Level 22 srvrs start on level 15 and 3 peats start at level 21
I have all level 20 srvrs with level 23 gear on my A and B teams
I have been collecting level 21 gear for quite a while and upgrading it to level 24 in anticipation of the move up to level 21 srvrs
I just upgraded my 7 star warrior to level 21 yesterday and assigned her level 24 gear I will upgrade my 7 star assault to level 21 next and I have level 24 gear waiting for him also Then I will stop upgrading any more srvrs until I am ready to move forward
I can still reap the benefits of level 20 srvrs in the challenge without the penalty I am glad I read all of this post first
As a side note, I am at 1014 stars currently in the challenge with my level 20 and one level 21 srvrs There are two of my guild mates with level 21 and level 22 srvrs
I am higher in stars than the level 21 guild mate and only 30 stars away from the level 22 guild mate
So they are being penalized heavily for moving up recently one level The challenge is not over yet, but just to demonstrate that the penalty they are facing sets them back quite a bit until they can level up good armor and weapons
This is what happened to me during this current challenge All my srvrs were level 20 at the start of the challenge I upgraded one 7 star warrior to level 21 during the challenge I had already previously upgraded a level 21 warrior weapon and armor to level 24
That level 21 warrior with level 24 gear was able to get me through level 25.3 and level 26.1 Without that level 21 warrior it would have been not possible
So, because I already had level 24 gear waiting for that level 21 warrior, that was the icing on the cake But, that's the only level 21 srvr I have currently I am upgrading 2 level 21's and stopping for now
If I had upgraded 3 srvrs to level 21, it would have been a whole different ball game Seems goofy that NG has not calculated how this would work out
But then again, we have seen how it appears that no one there seems to do thorough testing on new update releases So why would this be any different?
@EL34xyz it's also good to point out to the devs that since you've decided to only have 2 Lvl 21 survivors that whenever Governor & Merle become available you will be unable to play with them because if you do you'll be hit with a 100+ star loss in the challenges.
It's a shame that yourself and many players like you will face a star punishment if you wanted to try these heroes based on the way you have chosen to play the game. I can't imagine the devs had intended any player to deliberately not unlock a hero.
But once you have 2 21's or 2 22's that's where the line gets drawn.
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All this noise about only having 2× 21's or 2×22's is worrying as I'm only 7m away from upgrading tg and getting a couple 21's which I'm afraid is going to nerfed if ppl keep saying they can't unlock show characters
Now that I have a full team of 21s and most gear upgraded to fit them, I am definitely performing better in the challenge. There was the usual rough period of adjustment/catching up in gear, but now I'm stronger in challenges than I was with level 20s.
When I reach the point of upgrading to 22s, I'm not going to worry too much about it. I'll try to get some gear done before survivors, but if I unlock heroes and go to 22 early, so be it. I'll just do the best I can with whatever I've got.
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@EL34xyz it's also good to point out to the devs that since you've decided to only have 2 Lvl 21 survivors that whenever Governor & Merle become available you will be unable to play with them because if you do you'll be hit with a 100+ star loss in the challenges.
It's a shame that yourself and many players like you will face a star punishment if you wanted to try these heroes based on the way you have chosen to play the game. I can't imagine the devs had intended any player to deliberately not unlock a hero.
But once you have 2 21's or 2 22's that's where the line gets drawn.
Thanks for the reminder to not accept any new heros I am sitting tight at 2 level 21's this morning
Meanwhile, I am still upgrading level 21 gear to level 24 and stashing it away until I need it
Now that I have a full team of 21s and most gear upgraded to fit them, I am definitely performing better in the challenge. There was the usual rough period of adjustment/catching up in gear, but now I'm stronger in challenges than I was with level 20s.
When I reach the point of upgrading to 22s, I'm not going to worry too much about it. I'll try to get some gear done before survivors, but if I unlock heroes and go to 22 early, so be it. I'll just do the best I can with whatever I've got.
That's a good way to look at it I am only holding at 2 x 21 levels because I want the advantage of using them in the challenge without the difficulty being raised As soon as I have more level 21 gear leveled up to 24, I'll go ahead and proceed to update more srvrs to level 21
For those don't want to unlock Governor, prepare to be annoyed everytime you login the game with that annoying pop-up when you completed the season highlight missions.
For those don't want to unlock Governor, prepare to be annoyed everytime you login the game with that annoying pop-up when you completed the season highlight missions.
Thanks for the heads up I only have 128/250 governor tokens How many Governor tokens do we get for today's High lights episode?
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Ok, technical question I am all level 20's with two level 21's I am not wanting to get another level 21 until I am sitting on a good weapons supply for the new guys
If I accidentally accept a new level 21 srvr from a phone call, (which I have done before), instead of accepting the tokens Then I go to the srvrs menu and retire them, is that going to trigger some bug/glitch in the software that I now have 3 level 21 srvrs
> @EL34xyz said: > Ok, technical question > I am all level 20's with two level 21's > I am not wanting to get another level 21 until I am sitting on a good weapons supply for the new guys > > If I accidentally accept a new level 21 srvr from a phone call, (which I have done before), instead of accepting the tokens > Then I go to the srvrs menu and retire them, is that going to trigger some bug/glitch in the software that I now have 3 level 21 srvrs
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What's funny is I'd also be much more likely to buy a radio or gold bundle if upgrading all survivors was clear and cut the best move for me and my guild. I lost so much motivation with this update and have no desire to rush anything if it isn't ultimately going to help much.
Weapons and especially purchased weapon bundles. You should never pay for an item that way too soon becomes obsolete. I understand it's our choice to buy or not buy but there has to be tons of better options out there. There are plenty of people that would help with planning and input. I understand this all takes time, work, and more money but sometimes you need to spend more to make more.
Let's see more and more communication. Rfg is an awesome player and an even better guildmate. Listen to him!
Peace.
Upgrading is now Degrading?
Players don't want to upgrade their survivors because they will lose stars. They are constantly placed in a confusing situation regarding if upgrading will be beneficial to them or not.
I certainly wouldn't want the token situation to be any more confusing than this star situation is regarding upgrading survivors and deliberately not unlocking Heros.
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Some are in too big a hurry to raise the levels of their srvrs without having the proper gear in place before making the move up
3 or more Level 20 srvrs start on level 14 and 3 peats start at level 19
3 or more Level 21 srvrs start on level 15 and 3 peats start at level 20
3 or more Level 22 srvrs start on level 15 and 3 peats start at level 21
Do I have all of this correct?
Thanks to @Bill_ZRT for the diagram
I have been collecting level 21 gear for quite a while and upgrading it to level 24 in anticipation of the move up to level 21 srvrs
I just upgraded my 7 star warrior to level 21 yesterday and assigned her level 24 gear
I will upgrade my 7 star assault to level 21 next and I have level 24 gear waiting for him also
Then I will stop upgrading any more srvrs until I am ready to move forward
I can still reap the benefits of level 20 srvrs in the challenge without the penalty
I am glad I read all of this post first
As a side note, I am at 1014 stars currently in the challenge with my level 20 and one level 21 srvrs
There are two of my guild mates with level 21 and level 22 srvrs
I am higher in stars than the level 21 guild mate and only 30 stars away from the level 22 guild mate
So they are being penalized heavily for moving up recently one level
The challenge is not over yet, but just to demonstrate that the penalty they are facing sets them back quite a bit until they can level up good armor and weapons
All my srvrs were level 20 at the start of the challenge
I upgraded one 7 star warrior to level 21 during the challenge
I had already previously upgraded a level 21 warrior weapon and armor to level 24
That level 21 warrior with level 24 gear was able to get me through level 25.3 and level 26.1
Without that level 21 warrior it would have been not possible
So, because I already had level 24 gear waiting for that level 21 warrior, that was the icing on the cake
But, that's the only level 21 srvr I have currently
I am upgrading 2 level 21's and stopping for now
If I had upgraded 3 srvrs to level 21, it would have been a whole different ball game
Seems goofy that NG has not calculated how this would work out
But then again, we have seen how it appears that no one there seems to do thorough testing on new update releases
So why would this be any different?
It's a shame that yourself and many players like you will face a star punishment if you wanted to try these heroes based on the way you have chosen to play the game. I can't imagine the devs had intended any player to deliberately not unlock a hero.
But once you have 2 21's or 2 22's that's where the line gets drawn.
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When I reach the point of upgrading to 22s, I'm not going to worry too much about it. I'll try to get some gear done before survivors, but if I unlock heroes and go to 22 early, so be it. I'll just do the best I can with whatever I've got.
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I am sitting tight at 2 level 21's this morning
Meanwhile, I am still upgrading level 21 gear to level 24 and stashing it away until I need it
I am only holding at 2 x 21 levels because I want the advantage of using them in the challenge without the difficulty being raised
As soon as I have more level 21 gear leveled up to 24, I'll go ahead and proceed to update more srvrs to level 21
I only have 128/250 governor tokens
How many Governor tokens do we get for today's High lights episode?
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I am all level 20's with two level 21's
I am not wanting to get another level 21 until I am sitting on a good weapons supply for the new guys
If I accidentally accept a new level 21 srvr from a phone call, (which I have done before), instead of accepting the tokens
Then I go to the srvrs menu and retire them, is that going to trigger some bug/glitch in the software that I now have 3 level 21 srvrs
> Ok, technical question
> I am all level 20's with two level 21's
> I am not wanting to get another level 21 until I am sitting on a good weapons supply for the new guys
>
> If I accidentally accept a new level 21 srvr from a phone call, (which I have done before), instead of accepting the tokens
> Then I go to the srvrs menu and retire them, is that going to trigger some bug/glitch in the software that I now have 3 level 21 srvrs
It should not trigger, but I wouldn't try.