Update 2.7 New Challenge Mechanic Pre-Release Thread

Fearofabotplanet

Not promising that this will be the last thing I pin this week...

General_Pain

I put my @DLich on for this video

Super nice change to the challenges!

JayZ

inb4 content creators!

Fearofabotplanet

So close Jay, so close... Defeated by the merge

JayZ

Ugh, he cheated. He posted the video before the discussion thread even went up!

General_Pain

@JayZ check again. Mr Thinks He Is Quicker Than Pain Walker

Also for your information while you were typing this "inb4 content creators" comment, I posted this video on Youtube, here, twitter and Facebook

Fearofabotplanet

@painwalker 2efficient4me

JayZ

Anyways, this looks awesome. I'm looking forward to the bonus stars, gas savings, and reduced grind!

Terminates

Another preview of 2.7!!!

I updated the new youtube link because I uploaded the wrong one ;p
If you have any questions, ask away and I'm sure the mods will be glad to answer them

Monsuta

@painwalker I know what you said in the video but didn't understand it.
It's so confusing.

General_Pain

@Monsuta Believe me I was puzzled as well. I also didn't have as much time to prepare for this so I hope I didn't say anything that wasn't true.

Putchuco

@DLich get that spreadsheet started, brother!

David_H79

Love it

Mystique

Love love love this!!!!

Fearofabotplanet

@Monsuta Don't worry - it sounds a lot more complicated than it is

Conan1976

So the challenge will become less time consuming, without losing stars?

RealClareB

Clear as mud, that

Carly

Will it get to point when using round pass that the starting rsl will b too difficult to get 3 stars or near impassable?

Putchuco

Conan1976 said:

So the challenge will become less time consuming, without losing stars?

It appears that is exactly the idea: skip rounds without losing starz or rewards.

Terminates

@Carly No matter what, every week, you only skip from your normal starting round....not the last challenge starting round.

Putchuco

The real 'beauty' of this solution seems to be that it is automatic, we don't have to do a thing, it just happens.
If you play a lot, you skip a lot after a few challenges. If you take a break you will have to grind a bit again after your return to build up, but you wont lose anything in terms of rewards or starz.

@Fearofabotplanet does that just about sum it up?

Fearofabotplanet

That's the idea! Less grind, more action also, a few more stars because of the doubling of the round completion award.

Mystique

Does this in any way fix the star loss situation? I'm not seeing how or if it does!!

@Fearofabotplanet

Carly

Thx @Terminates

Seemed a bit fuzzy with understanding hw it'll work

NeoTheOne

I'm not sure I understood this. You seriously need a new content creator. Someone who has no heavy accent and who makes bigger and therefore clearer video images. I am not a native English speaker so difficulty in understanding what you are trying to communicate is worsen by that guy's accent.

Terminates mentioned about passes earned from last challenge which affects starting level of next challenge. Can you elaborate on this? Or maybe I'll just wait how this goes live.

Fearofabotplanet

@Mystique It's not a direct resolution to address the issue which you're talking about, though it will have an impact on stars. @Shteevie's comments in a different thread address this point, and I'm sure he'll also comment here on how this change will impact the challenge star system.

Shteevie

Fearofabotplanet said:

... and I'm sure he'll also comment here on how this change will impact the challenge star system.

If that isn't baiting, I don't know what is...

The short version of my other answer is:
Badges and Round Passes will help people get farther than before, or play for less time to get the same amount of rewards they are now. However, we know that additional changes may need to be made to address the upgrade moment from level 21 to 22, and we'll keep an eye on this situation to see what needs to be done.

The long answer uses a lot of math and behavioral economics, but would be all hypothetical and not very helpful to discuss now, before 2.7 is even live.

We expect to get a lot of feedback, good and bad, from the players once everyone gets used to 2.7. We're looking forward to hearing wheat you think, and will be adjusting future plans in reaction to what the players tell us.

jrodrf2

Sounds intriguing, though I didn't mind the grind too much. Only problem I see is that skipping ahead, say 5 rounds, eliminates quite a lot of post mission crates, which means you lose out on supplies, XP, and the almighty chance at radios. Idea isn't necessarily a bad thing, but I do kind of wish it was an optional feature. As in click on the round pass and it says "would you like to skip this round?" And you hit yes or no. *In this scenario, you'd have to cap the round pass usage to your survivor level or less, so that people wouldn't try to be round-passing level 30.1, etc*

Mystique

Thank you @Shteevie I must have missed the other thread explanation!!

Not entirely thrilled this update didn't directly fix the issue.. but I'll stay hopeful that the other new changes will have some sort of impact.. accidentally unlocking the Governor last week proved to be extremely disappointing/discouraging in regards my challenge stars!

ATLAS-Z

On the surface, this seems like pure @$&;#/! GENIUS.

Bravo. I can't wait to see it in action. (Without hidden nerfs I hope )

DLich

jrodfr2 said:

Sounds intriguing, though I didn't mind the grind too much. Only problem I see is that skipping ahead, say 5 rounds, eliminates quite a lot of post mission crates, which means you lose out on supplies, XP, and the almighty chance at radios. Idea isn't necessarily a bad thing, but I do kind of wish it was an optional feature. As in click on the round pass and it says "would you like to skip this round?" And you hit yes or no. *In this scenario, you'd have to cap the round pass usage to your survivor level or less, so that people wouldn't try to be round-passing level 30.1, etc*

Technically yes. On average you are saving 24 gas each round which would give you 6 opportunities to get 3 crates each with RSL level 15 rewards. You could spend that gas instead on scavenger missions which will give you rewards you can actually use (gear) or higher amount of supplies/xp. So although you do lose the opportunity to get those crates, you are saving the gas you'd spend and not getting lower level rewards and you can use that gas elsewhere in the game to get more appropriate level rewards compared to your survivors.