One other thing with notice. 2.8 wants access to my photos where as 2.7 did not. Not sure if that's a new feature (potential spoiler) but yeah. I really want to help you guys fix this thingy
Update to 2.8 was flawless here, Kudos to the Devs to get this going without maintenance window!
Played through Distance on Hard until Motorpool, at which point it seemed unbeatable to me. I am totally fine with that, looking forward to someone beat it and report back. The Distance is now SOOOO much more fun without endless wrestling! I had to strategize again, think of my moves, most enjoyable missions I have played in NML in a long time.
Looking forward to the changes in Challenge, they sound very good.
You know that no one ever forced you to use wrestler, right? And that there is no new strategy added, just and old one taken away from people?
You could have tried to figure out strategies that wouldn't have needed wrestler without the need for that trait to be nerfed - BTW has been nerfed without any sort of replacement or new strategic element that hasn't been there before so there is actually nothing different for you now than would have been pre nerf. You just chose not to try something else and now are forced to - giving you more enjoyment that you could have given yourself and in the meantime robbing others of their enjoyment which was uncalled for if you ask me.
I'd rather have no wrestler at all than that farce of a trait. Just more trait dilution now...
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My knockout bundle 24 timer expired and now I have no "full supply" bundles at all. The nag screen for that bundle has come up for a year now every time I restart the game. Now I was planning to actually buy the $7.99 bundle and it's gone. What the hell....
How sad is it that I have no F ing clue what you guys are talking about. All I got out of that is the first guys game works grrrr. And he spams wrestler then the 2nd guy called him on it and it was funny.
> @JerryDixon said: > My knockout bundle 24 timer expired and now I have no "full supply" bundles at all. The nag screen for that bundle has come up for a year now every time I restart the game. Now I was planning to actually buy the $7.99 bundle and it's gone. What the hell.... > > @JayZ@Nezo@paintbeast something is up....
> @Putchuco said: > The Distance is now SOOOO much more fun without endless wrestling! > I had to strategize again, think of my moves, most enjoyable missions I have played in NML in a long time.
Okay buddy, we get it. You didn’t like Wrestler. I’m pretty sure my grandma who doesn’t even play this game knows that you disliked Wrestler.
How do you feel about the Stun Resistance nerf? The dilution of armor traits? The exorbitant Council upgrade costs? The increased scavenge mission costs?
Yay for an update that made literally everything worse!
Update to 2.8 was flawless here, Kudos to the Devs to get this going without maintenance window!
Played through Distance on Hard until Motorpool, at which point it seemed unbeatable to me. I am totally fine with that, looking forward to someone beat it and report back. The Distance is now SOOOO much more fun without endless wrestling! I had to strategize again, think of my moves, most enjoyable missions I have played in NML in a long time.
Looking forward to the changes in Challenge, they sound very good.
Since this thread is such a lovefest, allow me to sarcastically thank everyone who whined about stars so much that I now get to grind through six more maps each on 19.1, 19.2, 19.3, 20.1, 20.2 and 20.3 just to get to a level that is still 1 below my survivor level.
That's an extra 144 gas and basically a whole day's worth of progress. Yay for more low level grind as the "solution" to having actual challenges as my survivor level increases.
Well, if Putchoco had not high-jacked another thread where another player mourned the loss of friends to start the same discussion again (and also posted here), no one would have bothered to discuss the thing again with him. Problem solved. And it was not us who equated players with monkeys @rfg1982
Of course, you are entitled to your opinion about the Wrestler nerf but I disagree with you calling us out on something we did not do. The gloating is just unbearable and adds insult to injury for those who actually liked and used Wrestler. Don't gloat, people don't get mad. (Not talking about your post...)
Not trying to be mean: I think that it is bad that you need a game mode to be made harder to stop you from playing so much. Sounds like a sign of addiction to me (it really does sound like it - and a game should be fun, not leading to a burnout, that really isn't healthy...).
Maybe it would have been more healthy to only make The Distance playable once a week instead of Saturday, too, when there is the challenge. On the other hand, no one is forcing me to play any mode that I don't want to play...
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The witch hunt on @Putchuco is bad, people. No meaningful discuss will come out of it. Just hate.
I have a family and a job and playing NML pushing the limits every week is burning me out severely. The Distance added a lot to that.
I think the change to Wrestler (and some others) makes the game healthier. It's as simple as that. And for that I thank NG.
If the game is causing issues with balancing time with one's job and family, then the game isn't the issue.
As far as a 'witch hunt' is concerned... you realize that things in this thread were relatively calm until this post was made, right? Some people might consider that gloating...
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NML is a game where damage has to build it up, not a shooter game where the key is to get that head shoot to insta kill anything. Wrestler had to go, it was clearly an unbalanced trait if you analyze the meta. It happens all the time, in any game.
It doesn't matter what we think, believe or want.It is done and basically we can only quit or keep playing the game, but essentially we need to move on one way or another.
> @rfg1982 said: > The witch hunt on @Putchuco is bad, people. No meaningful discuss will come out of it. Just hate. > > I have a family and a job and playing NML pushing the limits every week is burning me out severely. The Distance added a lot to that. > > I think the change to Wrestler (and some others) makes the game healthier. It's as simple as that. And for that I thank NG.
Why do you guys keep repeating the word "hate and haters" disagree with you doesn't mean we hate you at least I don't.
I post that I like the changes and the resulting joy playing Distance, and I'm gloating? But the post-stalking, LOL'ing my posts sarcastically etc etc is just pure fun and friendly? Sure
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No but on a serious note, I am taking my time upgrading this time around.... I won’t be burning gold like @painwalker did...
Some of the upgrades are expensive, I agree with that but there isn’t much we can do about it. I will grind for my tomatoes.
I like that we have the option of choosing which Distance we will be doing. I will be looking at the rewards before making my choices going forward. Had I done that yesterday, Merle would be epic today.
I just hope we don’t see a workshop and training grounds update for another 6 months.
NG, we need another double tomatoes event like ASAP
Expressing one's opinion under no circumstances warrants a witch hunt. Jumping on people for their sharing their opinion is exactly that. We will start handing out bans if the toxicity doesn't subside.
Since this thread is such a lovefest, allow me to sarcastically thank everyone who whined about stars so much that I now get to grind through six more maps each on 19.1, 19.2, 19.3, 20.1, 20.2 and 20.3 just to get to a level that is still 1 below my survivor level.
That's an extra 144 gas and basically a whole day's worth of progress. Yay for more low level grind as the "solution" to having actual challenges as my survivor level increases.
Please let me know where you start next week after you earn 2-3 more extra RP’s than you did last week.
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> @paintbeast said: > Here's another little tidbit: > > Despite what was previously reported (apologies-I can't find where it was said), we DO NOT still get double round passes.
Huh? I haven’t played much yet but got 5 last week. I skipped round 1-5 but will get double rewards on 6-10. So I won’t get double rewards RP’s on 10?
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I post that I like the changes and the resulting joy playing Distance, and I'm gloating? But the post-stalking, LOL'ing my posts sarcastically etc etc is just pure fun and friendly? Sure
I wonder if you are really that oblivious... Okay, I will help you out and hope this will not get me in trouble...
"The Distance is now SOOOO much more fun without endless wrestling!"
You must know that many people enjoyed using Wrestler for The Distance. And they got that taken away from them. Many people also enjoyed using it for challenges. Also taken from them.
So you posting that it is SOOOO much more fun without endless wrestling - which you could have chosen to do without it being taken from others - feels very much like gloating.
Plus there is the other thread as well which people will most likely have read, too, where you equate players using Wrestler with monkeys playing the game... do you really not get it why you aggravate people?
That is why people react the way they do. Not judging whether all the reactions are fine or not but they were understandable to me nonetheless (and yeah, I found some of them to be funny, not denying that...)
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The witch hunt on @Putchuco is bad, people. No meaningful discuss will come out of it. Just hate.
I have a family and a job and playing NML pushing the limits every week is burning me out severely. The Distance added a lot to that.
I think the change to Wrestler (and some others) makes the game healthier. It's as simple as that. And for that I thank NG.
If the game is causing issues with balancing time with one's job and family, then the game isn't the issue.
As far as a 'witch hunt' is concerned... you realize that things in this thread were relatively calm until this post was made, right? Some people might consider that gloating...
What if it is gloating? What's wrong? Is it like he is celebrating a personal win or something? C'mon... The hate on him is disgusting to see. His post was about the 2.8 and he is celebrating what he thinks is good while pointing out his "whys".
Sorry everyone, I am going to repost this here to maybe get someone to see it.
Since the update my bruisers can't interrupt tanks. Yes, I know fat walkers can't be stunned. But I used to sometimes use a (silver) interruptor trait in overwatch to stun approaching tanks. It's not the only-80% interrupt chance because it happens over and over again, even if I use bruisers with luck, and I never get the "Interrupt avoided" message. It even happens with level 20 bruisers against level 15 fatties for example. No body shots. Just no interruptions. Has this been discussed?
I'm going to assume that this is a real question, so I'll answer it. What's wrong with gloating? How do you think gloating will be received by the people who have a different opinion? They should take the high road, but it's okay for the person whose gloating to take the 'cheap shot'. How is gloating not trolling? How is gloating not baiting other forum users for a response?
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Played through Distance on Hard until Motorpool, at which point it seemed unbeatable to me.
I am totally fine with that, looking forward to someone beat it and report back.
The Distance is now SOOOO much more fun without endless wrestling!
I had to strategize again, think of my moves, most enjoyable missions I have played in NML in a long time.
Looking forward to the changes in Challenge, they sound very good.
Thx @Shteevie @Teeceezy @Fearofabotplanet for the update, looks great.
P.S.: I would wish a bug-fix update next where we address all the nasty little things that are still lurking in the game
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You could have tried to figure out strategies that wouldn't have needed wrestler without the need for that trait to be nerfed - BTW has been nerfed without any sort of replacement or new strategic element that hasn't been there before so there is actually nothing different for you now than would have been pre nerf. You just chose not to try something else and now are forced to - giving you more enjoyment that you could have given yourself and in the meantime robbing others of their enjoyment which was uncalled for if you ask me.
I'd rather have no wrestler at all than that farce of a trait. Just more trait dilution now...
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@JayZ @Nezo @paintbeast something is up....
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@Putchuco what device are you using?
> My knockout bundle 24 timer expired and now I have no "full supply" bundles at all. The nag screen for that bundle has come up for a year now every time I restart the game. Now I was planning to actually buy the $7.99 bundle and it's gone. What the hell....
>
> @JayZ @Nezo @paintbeast something is up....
Same here.....
> The Distance is now SOOOO much more fun without endless wrestling!
> I had to strategize again, think of my moves, most enjoyable missions I have played in NML in a long time.
Okay buddy, we get it. You didn’t like Wrestler. I’m pretty sure my grandma who doesn’t even play this game knows that you disliked Wrestler.
How do you feel about the Stun Resistance nerf? The dilution of armor traits? The exorbitant Council upgrade costs? The increased scavenge mission costs?
Yay for an update that made literally everything worse!
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BTW @Putchuco that lone "awesome" is mine... haha
That's an extra 144 gas and basically a whole day's worth of progress. Yay for more low level grind as the "solution" to having actual challenges as my survivor level increases.
I have a family and a job and playing NML pushing the limits every week is burning me out severely. The Distance added a lot to that.
I think the change to Wrestler (and some others) makes the game healthier. It's as simple as that. And for that I thank NG.
Of course, you are entitled to your opinion about the Wrestler nerf but I disagree with you calling us out on something we did not do. The gloating is just unbearable and adds insult to injury for those who actually liked and used Wrestler. Don't gloat, people don't get mad. (Not talking about your post...)
Not trying to be mean: I think that it is bad that you need a game mode to be made harder to stop you from playing so much. Sounds like a sign of addiction to me (it really does sound like it - and a game should be fun, not leading to a burnout, that really isn't healthy...).
Maybe it would have been more healthy to only make The Distance playable once a week instead of Saturday, too, when there is the challenge. On the other hand, no one is forcing me to play any mode that I don't want to play...
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As far as a 'witch hunt' is concerned... you realize that things in this thread were relatively calm until this post was made, right? Some people might consider that gloating...
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It doesn't matter what we think, believe or want.It is done and basically we can only quit or keep playing the game, but essentially we need to move on one way or another.
> The witch hunt on @Putchuco is bad, people. No meaningful discuss will come out of it. Just hate.
>
> I have a family and a job and playing NML pushing the limits every week is burning me out severely. The Distance added a lot to that.
>
> I think the change to Wrestler (and some others) makes the game healthier. It's as simple as that. And for that I thank NG.
Why do you guys keep repeating the word "hate and haters" disagree with you doesn't mean we hate you at least I don't.
But the post-stalking, LOL'ing my posts sarcastically etc etc is just pure fun and friendly?
Sure
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Good job and thank you NG
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Some of the upgrades are expensive, I agree with that but there isn’t much we can do about it. I will grind for my tomatoes.
I like that we have the option of choosing which Distance we will be doing. I will be looking at the rewards before making my choices going forward. Had I done that yesterday, Merle would be epic today.
I just hope we don’t see a workshop and training grounds update for another 6 months.
NG, we need another double tomatoes event like ASAP
Please tell us how this isn't just another form of being punished for upgrading.
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Despite what was previously reported (apologies-I can't find where it was said), we DO NOT still get double round passes.
> Here's another little tidbit:
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> Despite what was previously reported (apologies-I can't find where it was said), we DO NOT still get double round passes.
Huh? I haven’t played much yet but got 5 last week. I skipped round 1-5 but will get double rewards on 6-10. So I won’t get double rewards RP’s on 10?
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I don't like that I am getting level 21 gear in challenge and deluxe challenge crates. I need level 23, not 21... that's just...
"The Distance is now SOOOO much more fun without endless wrestling!"
You must know that many people enjoyed using Wrestler for The Distance. And they got that taken away from them. Many people also enjoyed using it for challenges. Also taken from them.
So you posting that it is SOOOO much more fun without endless wrestling - which you could have chosen to do without it being taken from others - feels very much like gloating.
Plus there is the other thread as well which people will most likely have read, too, where you equate players using Wrestler with monkeys playing the game... do you really not get it why you aggravate people?
That is why people react the way they do. Not judging whether all the reactions are fine or not but they were understandable to me nonetheless (and yeah, I found some of them to be funny, not denying that...)
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Let's move on and back to topic.
Since the update my bruisers can't interrupt tanks.
Yes, I know fat walkers can't be stunned. But I used to sometimes use a (silver) interruptor trait in overwatch to stun approaching tanks. It's not the only-80% interrupt chance because it happens over and over again, even if I use bruisers with luck, and I never get the "Interrupt avoided" message. It even happens with level 20 bruisers against level 15 fatties for example. No body shots. Just no interruptions. Has this been discussed?
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