No class event boost this week?

Mystique · February 2018

Usually when we select a scavenge mission it will show what class boost we will have for the week.. this week it doesn’t show one!

Are we having one, or are you considering the Carol boost as the event?

@Kaz

suzequeue · February 2018

Maybe Scout week? But we just had that 2 weeks ago.

Troublemaker · February 2018

I honestly believe this is a much better thing for the game. It adds strategy and dynamics while pushing revenue for NG too. I also think it's more fun and values players that always tried to keep a balanced roster.

I've suggested previously that "class damage bonus" unbalances the game, biasing every challenge towards certain classes. This is bad because NML isn't a balanced game - we all know ranged has a big edge over melee on most of the maps and situations.

My previous suggestion was that the "class damage bonus" was changed to faster class & gear upgrades, faster healing, reduced costs etc for the specific class. Raw power has to be even among all classes for strategies to develop and players to put their full rosters and creativity to good use.

To my surprise, by making "Hero weeks", we might have an even better solution. So far I say awesome move, NG.

(just tagging you here @kaz to make sure this gets read by staff - tks and sorry to bother)

dlb · February 2018

@Troublemaker i dont agree that the weekly bonus makes it unbalanced. It gives you a little extra something if you choose to use it. I see it as a good thing that can motivate players to try different classes. And it's not as if they ever design maps specific to the class bonus, so its not much different than hulking up on badges. And once the body shots start landing, the bonus is almost irrelevant.

And while i agree ranged weapons are the way to go, @Firekid puts up some amazing scores week after week heavily leaning on melee and the right gear for the mission. So maybe he can speak on the value of melee survivors.

Mystique · February 2018

I can’t say that I agree with that sentiment @Troublemaker

It’s difficult enough to get radios/tokens to upgrade heroes that I actually like to play with (worthwhile leader trait).. I definitely do not want to waste those precious resources to “balance” all my heroes! No thanks, that would be a HUGE game changer for me if that was to be implemented every week!

That’s not to say that they can’t do a hero boost weekly along with a normal class boost?
Normal class boost definitely allows for more diversity in my play style, and I always will find ways to work that specific class into challenges when they are boosted! That’s plenty enough balance for me

Troublemaker · February 2018

@dlb @Mystique the only one who can make a serious conclusion about this is NG. We would need to live under this for 4-8 weeks to see if this is indeed better.

So far I say it is, but I'm not sitting on it.

Can only say it's a very good new event idea. Feels like fresh dynamics have been subtly added.

mobbie · February 2018

I like use abe hunter and another assault most maps if not all are made for them types giving %50 to shooter scouts and so on in open areas is bloody useless.

dlb · February 2018

So why do we have to eliminate something to try something new?

Mystique · February 2018

Just want to add.. NG is totally against alienating lower level and new players.. A hero event every week instead of class bonus would definitely alienate them! I’d be totally SOL on my alt account that is level 51! Js @Troublemaker

Pandreq · February 2018

I’m more likely to try different (melee) classes when they have warrior or scout week. Now i’m just going to be stuck to my usual combo. Abe/Sasha/Merle as leader, with hunter and either assault or shooter. I can’t use carol as she very underpowered, and I’m FTP so won’t be paying to try and get her to 5-star.

So I’m not a fan of this, but appreciate that NG are trying to keep things fresh

Troublemaker · February 2018

@Mystique those are the kinda of measurements only NG will be able to do. Not trying to go for or against anything, and I don't know if you are an end gamer or not (sorry for that), but I remember saving radios for Maggie thinking she would be awesome for a longtime... Now it's only Sasha, Michonne, Jesus and Abraham while most of the others are just gums for walkers to chew.

That's what I'm trying to put up here... it's a good idea. For now that's just it. A good idea.

DrUnpleasant · February 2018

Why not have a stacking bonus? +30% for class of the week, and a further +30% for a specific hero in that class?

CBgaming1969 · February 2018

I imagine if they don't put a bonus on this week it is because new Dark of Night and want a realistic star count for both them and us.

On a personal note, I generally always use my main team regardless of bonus...

So anybody that wants more of a challenge or dislikes bonus week...don't use them...get some lvl 1 toons from free radio call and have a blast,)~

Mystique · February 2018

Yes I am an end gamer @Troublemaker and would be super ticked if this replaces the normal boost!

CBgaming1969 · February 2018

I'm with ya'll on Maggie, training gear made her less valuable, at least at lower stars

I_Am_Psycho · February 2018

Troublemaker said:
We would need to live under this for 4-8 weeks to see if this is indeed better.

So far I say it is, but I'm not sitting on it.

I don't think we can know if it's better or worse after just 7 hours; before any serious gameplay s done. There's no basis on which to judge if it's better or not. Nobody could justifiably say, "so far it is", or "so far it isn't".

Drunken · February 2018

Yall think of it this way less grind lol

Troublemaker · February 2018

I_Am_Psycho said:

Troublemaker said:
We would need to live under this for 4-8 weeks to see if this is indeed better.

So far I say it is, but I'm not sitting on it.
I don't think we can know if it's better or worse after just 7 hours; before any serious gameplay s done. There's no basis on which to judge if it's better or not. Nobody could justifiably say, "so far it is", or "so far it isn't".

You noticed I just said the exact same thing as you right? hahah

I_Am_Psycho · February 2018

@Troublemaker
We didn't say the same thing. You've said you believe it is good thing "so far". I pointed out that if there is to be no class bonus this week, so far, there is no way to compare the two in the main aspects of gameplay.

You get what I am saying now? Haha

Mystique · February 2018

@Kaz could you please confirm either way if we will have a class bonus this week? I plan my gear upgrades and new badges accordingly!

Troublemaker · February 2018

I_Am_Psycho said:
@Troublemaker
We didn't say the same thing. You've said you believe it is good thing "so far". I pointed out that if there is to be no class bonus this week, so far, there is no way to compare the two in the main aspects of gameplay.

You get what I am saying now? Haha

It's the same thing to me because when I mentioned "so far", there's a chance that things can change "from now on".

Good vibes! :-)

I_Am_Psycho · February 2018

Mystique said:
@Kaz could you please confirm either way if we will have a class bonus this week? I plan my gear upgrades and new badges accordingly!

@Kaz @Shteevie @Fearofabotplanet
We still don't know if this is a result of not working as intended or if it is an intentional change by NG. I just reread the update notes and it is not mentioned there.

Any chance staff can confirm regarding this please?

anthony172 · February 2018

We dont have a class bonus, but Carol damage and health significantly boosted

I_Am_Psycho · February 2018

We don't have an announcement that there is no class bonus. Just an omission of detail around the fact it is not there.

Unless people have secret sources of information, any assumption is pure speculation.

Rbredt · February 2018

anthony172 said:
We dont have a class bonus, but Carol damage and health significantly boosted

Considering we don’t have free badge unequip to put good ones on her, that boost is kinda wasted.

bladgier · February 2018

Class bonus or riot

I wouldn't want to go back to having a class bonus damage increase or reductiond every month or 2.
We should move onwards, not back.

To me, class bonus is one of those things that make me really excited about the challenge and keep me going in the dark grind times.

Troublemaker · February 2018

@bladgier I think the game has become hostage of the damage bonus.

Wouldn't a different kind of class bonus be healthier for the game? Faster upgrades for char and gear, faster healing, cheaper costs, increased chance of specific class for calls and gear etc?

I think so.

Movado · February 2018

The thing that I could rally behind is if NG modifies the class bonuses depending on the specific class for the week (i.e. doesn’t have to only be +damage). For example, Bruisers could be +Health, or + damage-reduction. Maybe give Warrior bonuses to be +extra charge point.
...I’m just shooting from the hip here, but the point is that class bonus week could be tweaked to cater to that class, and doesn’t always need to be pure +damage output.