New challenge format

ReggieGR

As a player with lvl19 characters and 1 pink star on 1 character, it won’t take long at all to max out. I count 13 missions until I’m facing opposition at 5 levels higher and every shot is a body shot. So you’re cutting my star count by 30%+

Maybe you should be doing the challenge like you do The Distance, with ultimate challenge for high level players and classic challenge for the rest of us

xbamfx

Star count across the board won’t be a problem unless, the reward system is unbalanced to compensate for the drop in star count across the board.

Captainslayer

I wish I had your problem to max out early

ReggieGR

One thing I would like to see is the basis for this permanent change.

Was there a statistically valid survey taken? Or was it based on a thread on this board with 30 or 40 replies?

Would NG kindly share the source of the overwhelming positive response to the ultimate challenge change?

crambert_nec

What do you know, I'm an end gamer and my star count will be cut by about 30% too!

Mabiki

ReggieGR said:

One thing I would like to see is the basis for this permanent change.

Was there a statistically valid survey taken? Or was it based on a thread on this board with 30 or 40 replies?

Would NG kindly share the source of the overwhelming positive response to the ultimate challenge change?

Are you familiar with the multiple test runs of the Ultimate Challenge, the feedback sought both in and out of game, the resulting revisions, and then repeating the event with changes?

The thread(s) on this board were overwhelmingly in favor of changes to reduce the grind, but NG has explicitly stated these were not the sole basis for any change. If they were, we would have gotten the Ultimate Challenge in its first incarnation - but instead, they stopped, looked at data and feedback, ran a new event based on that data and feedback, and then did the whole thing again before announcing the current change.

Of course you're free to dislike the new format (though waiting to see it in action may be worthwhile) and voice your opinion loudly, and I in no way am attempting to quiet you.

But you seem to be insinuating that this change was made haphazardly based only on feedback from end-gamers on this board, and I can assure you that is not the case, at least based on what NG has said and done. There are easily dozens of threads on the subject here, if you care to search briefly for them, which include numerous player opinions and NG's responses that explain their efforts to find a happy medium to satisfy people like you and people like me.

Here's just 1 of them, but there are many others if you just type "ultimate challenge" into the search bar. If you don't feel like reading the entire thread, I would direct you to look for the responses with a red "administrator" next to the name. Perhaps the many official comments over the last few months will answer some of your questions.

JayZ

Okay, let’s all take a step back and acknowledge that his original complaint isn’t even valid. Given that his top survivors are level 19, he’ll actually start at RSL11.

He’s going to play
11
12
13
14
15
16.1 16.2
17.1 17.2
18.1 18.2

Or 11 rounds until he even breaks even on RSL.

It’ll take 10 more rounds (for a total of 21 rounds) before he even gets to RSL+5, so his entire “I only get to play 13 rounds before it gets too hard” premise is simply incorrect.

JayZ

For the sake of argument, let’s assume that he levels his survivors up to level 20 and he does only play 13 rounds before maxing out. He’ll probably earn 2 round passes which means he plays 11 rounds. Guess what? 11 rounds x 6 missions x 4-5 gas isn’t cheap! In fact, that’s about two full days of gas accumulation, assuming you don’t take breaks to sleep. You could easily spend Weds-Fri playing the challenge before peaking and Sat on the Distance. Sunday might end up being supply farming day, but maybe that’s not such a bad thing! More supplies = higher camp = stronger survivors = getting farther in challenges. Yay, logic!

xbamfx

@JayZ thanks for that breakdown, I figured it wouldn’t be that much difference and I think most end gamers will see the biggest impact as far as star count. Again all that won’t be a significant issue as long as the rewards are scaled evenly to the new star count totals. I’m excited to see new game modes or be able to focus on the distance more rather then 1400 stars worth of senseless grind smh

capibara

Btw...we need to download new update or it's done?

TheCrab

no you have to restart the game and it's done