NG, STOP GIVING ME TOMATO CRATE REWARDS WHEN IVE UPGRADED EVERY BUILDING AND HAVE MAX TOMATO SUPPLY.

afroponix

Seriously, this is absurd, I’ve upgraded EVERYTHING EARLY TO THE POINT THERES NOTHING ELSE TO UPGRADE, AND HAVE MAX TOMATOES IN STORAGE.

and yes I’m yelling because you’re being a game company that won’t bring a solution which is a horrible business model for long term players that you obviously take for granted all this time, you let gas stack, so give me more xp rewards and NO MORE TOMATOES OR HAVE A TOMATO FOR TRADE EVENT!

NG is being absurd and ridiculous with this model punishing players that have already completed objectives set before them.

afroponix

Honestly you’re the only game company I know of, that I play, that doesn’t take care of the foundation of the people who helped you get to where you are

afroponix

Seriously?
It’s great getting punished for achieving the goal early...

afroponix

Again... such an easy fix and not fixed so purposely obviously...

TJS

I understand that supplies are only in after mission crates until difficulty lvl23 but I have to agree with @afroponix on this one.

If your supplies are maxed then supplies rewards should be removed from 'ALL' crates.

NG obviously wants players to spend cash &/or time on the game, not changing this leads players to spend less time &/or cash.

It makes no sense.

Please NG address this problem. @Kaz

Japes87

On the opposite end , when you need Supplies like I did after being off game for almost a year, you can't get them outside of supplies scavenge marathons with the round pass system , you basically only have one round to gather supplies. I don't know why its so hard to stop supplies drops in challenges when players are maxed and allow players who aren't maxed to receive them . The systems seem like they are already in place to do so . What is the point of stopping supplies from dropping for players under level 68 camp at any point? You can't even buy supplies.. they need to listen to the community with this one, I hope they do

ShadowaceAz

I do Scavenger run, Supplies. Not Equipment, Not Xp.

Why? Because you get Supplies, Equipment, and XP from all three! I find no better equipment from the equipment runs, I find no greater XP from the XP runs.

That has bothered me most of all, but with the loss of supplies after a certain level of difficulty it sure as hell means more farming for supplies because, like TG's, I can no longer keep up with demand.

I lost all upgrade potential on my farms awhile ago and will not be able to plant another crop. At least in time I will be able to build another XP tent, but no more farms?

I have starving women and children and cannot even get relief from the United Nations of NG ?

PigBenis

It seems their plan is working as intended. You spent at least 25 gold each time to unlock 3 crates and you received no real benefit from 5 of the 9 crates. More than half were useless each time, so why do you continue to spend gold knowing that you will get supplies that won't help you? That is the question you should be asking yourself. Save your money/gold.

mobbie

I take them. I will give some good 24 drops I've got from this event so far.

bladgier

How about making supplies tank 4x bigger or so?

TJS

Another suggestion would be offer an item in trade shop for supplies each Tuesday, along with Trade Goods Tuesday.

CBgaming1969

How about stop getting toe rewards in dailies...that would be a simple fix...lmao...nothing simple it seems...

JayZ

TJS said:

Another suggestion would be offer an item in trade shop for supplies each Tuesday, along with Trade Goods Tuesday.

I suggested this a while ago! I even came up with a catchy name for it: "Supply Trade Sunday"

TransmuteJun

I'm waiting for the 'buried in tomatoes' memes to start cropping up again.

In any case, I will be joining you all soon, as I have all buildings upgraded and currently have 12 million tomatoes on my way to 20. I would have more, but I spent 4 million tomatoes on the badge crafting weekend.

whitek111

@SCBMA to be fair you can still claim it, it just gives you no benefit cause you're maxed aside from getting an addition 1 daily quest trophy and are able to get the additional 4 quest for completing all daily quests.

Bill_ZRT

Sorry, I can't agree with anyone who uses gold to open all boxes when there aren't even any silver or gold crates on the board.

afroponix

PigBenis said:

It seems their plan is working as intended. You spent at least 25 gold each time to unlock 3 crates and you received no real benefit from 5 of the 9 crates. More than half were useless each time, so why do you continue to spend gold knowing that you will get supplies that won't help you? That is the question you should be asking yourself. Save your money/gold.

Yes, you’re pointing to a psychological theory called “chasing the fallacy of lost cost”. I’d be helping myself by not spending the gold (potentially, seeing as opening crates are more of a jackpot/one arm bandit situation), so I’d also maybe be hurting myself by not opening those crates.

But I’d also be hurting NG by not spending the gold, ergo, you would think they would want to fix this problem, but as a commenter said above

PigBenis said:

It seems their plan is working as intended. You spent at least 25 gold each time to unlock 3 crates and you received no real benefit from 5 of the 9 crates. More than half were useless each time, so why do you continue to spend gold knowing that you will get supplies that won't help you? That is the question you should be asking yourself. Save your money/gold.

I also believe when the crate reward screen opens the better crates don’t stay in the same spot, it’s more of a shell game because NG knows the probability of the player opening all crates to find the better ones or the players that won’t and so reward them with the better crates early to keep them playing.

Shell game, we know it, they know it... at least I believe I know it

Firekid

@afroponix but if they stopped giving you supplies would you prefer an empty box? They would have to increase the rate of something else for the few end gamers that are in your position. Which would not be fair on the majority of people who aren't at full supplies but don't want them either (like me). You knew this was going to happen as it happens every council upgrade.
I would also like trade tomatoes for gear though as am also maxed out on supplies!

TJS

Firekid said:

@afroponix but if they stopped giving you supplies would you prefer an empty box? They would have to increase the rate of something else for the few end gamers that are in your position. Which would not be fair on the majority of people who aren't at full supplies but don't want them either (like me). You knew this was going to happen as it happens every council upgrade.

I would also like trade tomatoes for gear though as am also maxed out on supplies!

If supplies were replaced with an empty crate it wouldn't make any difference. When you're maxed it is basically an empty crate. Not to mention a pretty ridiculous statement.

Gas is removed from crates when on a gas booster, so going with your logic I'm assuming you feel that's also unfair to some players.

What isn't fair is that when a player has maxed their buildings and supplies they are receiving nothing when supplies are rewards in crates, quests & their camp farms.
Why should a player who has spent time and/or cash to reach max level loose out while others don't?

DoTak

This ain't no solution, but if you really want to use those supplies, you can make a badge with all common components for 19,100 supplies and trash it for 9,000 xp

And yeah, I can think of reasons not to (increased crafting event)

DLich

DoTak said:

This ain't no solution, but if you really want to use those supplies, you can make a badge with all common components for 19,100 supplies and trash it for 9,000 xp

And yeah, I can think of reasons not to (increased crafting event)

Wait are you saying there's a way to turn supplies into XP at a rate of 2:1? So then all I need now are an abundance of common pieces... There's an abundance of those floating around Too bad they are hard to come by also.

tabernac

Having the tomato rewards stop dropping when 2 criteria are met:

- All Buildings upgraded to max
- Tomatoes at max

Shouldn't be too hard to code, right @Kaz?

Shut_Up

They've been working on solving a solution to the tomato problem for at least 2 years. I wish I had that long at work to solve problems but I'm in healthcare and would probably be looking down the barrel of a malpractice lawsuit.

I hope we get a supplies for gear trade next weekend. @Kaz I hope you and the staff hit the little button to see how many people are maxed out and decide it's time for the supply trade in the trade shop button to get pressed.

PigBenis

Man, if only I had some good ideas on what could be done with supplies that I've posted before...

nadecir

> @Shut_Up said:
>
> I hope we get a supplies for gear trade next weekend. @Kaz I hope you and the staff hit the little button to see how many people are maxed out and decide it's time for the supply trade in the trade shop button to get pressed.

The bad news for NG is that there are a lot less players for them to be concerned about in this game in general than in the past. The NG quarterly report for the first quarter was just awful.

NG's stock is down significantly today, as it should be with a 50% year over year revenue decline. I am sure it wasn't a great day today around the NG water coolers.

ShadowaceAz

nadecir said:

I am sure it wasn't a great day today around the NG water coolers.

I think they might have sold those at auction?

PigBenis

nadecir said:

NG's stock is down significantly today, as it should be with a 50% year over year revenue decline. I am sure it wasn't a great day today around the NG water coolers.

And you can bet that there was discussion on how to make money that included updating the gold bundles in the shop. Notice how they now show "20% value", "30% value" etc. compared to the $5 gold bundle? They are pushing gold and they are trying to sell more bundles, as they should be. However, these MORONS have shit COMPLETELY OVERPRICED so few will purchase them.

As I've said before, I can have 100 gallons of milk, each priced at $20. I might sell a couple and have $40 to show for it. But if I priced them at $1 each, I'd surely sell ALL of them, and have $100. Which is more? They are on the wrong side of the pricing curve, unless they are trying to kill the game. Then they are spot on.

afroponix

PigBenis said:

nadecir said:

NG's stock is down significantly today, as it should be with a 50% year over year revenue decline. I am sure it wasn't a great day today around the NG water coolers.

And you can bet that there was discussion on how to make money that included updating the gold bundles in the shop. Notice how they now show "20% value", "30% value" etc. compared to the $5 gold bundle? They are pushing gold and they are trying to sell more bundles, as they should be. However, these MORONS have shit COMPLETELY OVERPRICED so few will purchase them.

As I've said before, I can have 100 gallons of milk, each priced at $20. I might sell a couple and have $40 to show for it. But if I priced them at $1 each, I'd surely sell ALL of them, and have $100. Which is more? They are on the wrong side of the pricing curve, unless they are trying to kill the game. Then they are spot on.

Well in a way they are trying to kill the game by taking profits from this game to create “our world” game, or so their NextGames stock news sheets have said as well as in NG booths at the Cons.

tabernac said:

Having the tomato rewards stop dropping when 2 criteria are met:

- All Buildings upgraded to max
- Tomatoes at max

Shouldn't be too hard to code, right @Kaz?

Exactly, they do it for gas, it would be no harder than flipping the code switch they use for that but for tomatoes.

Firekid said:

@afroponix but if they stopped giving you supplies would you prefer an empty box? They would have to increase the rate of something else for the few end gamers that are in your position. Which would not be fair on the majority of people who aren't at full supplies but don't want them either (like me). You knew this was going to happen as it happens every council upgrade.

I would also like trade tomatoes for gear though as am also maxed out on supplies!

End gamers aren’t uncommon, there’s much more of them than it seems you think there is. Even a weapon isn’t an empty box that I can at least sell for XP if they don’t want to blatantly give out more XP boxes. They can stop gas rewards for those who need them stopped, they can stop tomato rewards for those who don’t need them with no effect on you at all...I don’t think you realize this.