40 extra summer tokens

anniesprinkles

I just wanted to say thank you since 40 extra summer tokens is a very nice reward and also because I can get 850 stars per challenge.

This is also very unfair to mid level players & should have been based on individual player levels NOT on who can reach 850 stars.

At certain levels you CAN'T reach 850 stars, I don't care how good you are. This also suggests to players that can't reach 850 stars that their contributions don't really seem to matter. Imo

Another thing I would like to add is lower level players ALREADY get less stars from the distance, if they are at least at a level they can even play the distance.

I really think this should have been a reward EVERYONE had at least a CHANCE to get.

ShadowaceAz

NextGames, you get me!

*Edited to add:
I thought this was gonna be another "Thank you NG" thread because that's what I was coming to write, only after making the post did I read the remained of OP. I'm still with the Thank You myself.

I don't take the bonus tokens to those who have more time invested as an insult or offense, any more than on should be offended by the extra tokens in Hard Distance, because Everyone is getting some extra tokens.

The people who feared they could have no chance at Legendary RPG are given a gift. Using OP's logic, we should all be offended The Distance is required to get any tokens, because people who just started playing a couple months ago do not have the chance to get any Distance tokens either!

Failed logic, faulty complaints. It's a gift. I am grateful.

suzequeue

anniesprinkles said:

I just wanted to say thank you since 40 extra summer tokens is a very nice reward and also because I can get 850 stars per challenge.

This is also very unfair to mid level players & should have been based on individual player levels NOT on who can reach 850 stars.

At certain levels you CAN'T reach 850 stars, I don't care how good you are. This also suggests to players that can't reach 850 stars that their contributions don't really seem to matter. Imo

Another thing I would like to add is lower level players ALREADY get less stars from the distance, if they are at least at a level they can even play the distance.

I really think this should have been a reward EVERYONE had at least a CHANCE to get.

There is no need for me to grind away to Level 68 and level 24 players if everyone feels they 'deserve' to be rewarded the same amount at Level 14,20 or 24.. I don't understand this attitude of complaining about things like this.

deb1hd

There is absolutely no way that I can reach 850 stars on my second account. No matter what I do. I feel like this has crushed some of the medium level player who thought they had a chance of getting Daryl legendary RPG.

anniesprinkles

suzequeue said:

anniesprinkles said:

I just wanted to say thank you since 40 extra summer tokens is a very nice reward and also because I can get 850 stars per challenge.

This is also very unfair to mid level players & should have been based on individual player levels NOT on who can reach 850 stars.

At certain levels you CAN'T reach 850 stars, I don't care how good you are. This also suggests to players that can't reach 850 stars that their contributions don't really seem to matter. Imo

Another thing I would like to add is lower level players ALREADY get less stars from the distance, if they are at least at a level they can even play the distance.

I really think this should have been a reward EVERYONE had at least a CHANCE to get.

There is no need for me to grind away to Level 68 and level 24 players if everyone feels they 'deserve' to be rewarded the same amount at Level 14,20 or 24.. I don't understand this attitude of complaining about things like this.

@suzequeue

If you had bothered to read my thread...I can already each 850 stars easily and will be rewarded with 40 extra summer tokens.

What I'm saying is players that CAN'T reach 850 stars work just as hard as I do and why shouldn't they be rewarded the same also.

And I would also like to add that I don't understand ppl like you that only seem to consider themselves and not everyone else too.

mudpie

> @PigBenis said:
> These 40 tokens will be insignificant in the long run. At most, it will allow someone that would get the legendary version of the RPG anyway, the opportunity to play with it sooner. As in a DAY sooner. The average needed is 43 tokens per day to get to 3000 tokens and it's already been stated that there will be over 3000 tokens available and that resetting of the Distance (in ANY mode) isn't necessary to achieve the legendary version of the RPG, yet players are STILL resetting it to get more tokens. Stop complaining. Anyone that puts in a decent effort will have the chance to get it.

@PigBenis

Stop being a greedy bastard!

deb1hd

I do beleive that @Kaz said that the reward would be availble to the mid level players also. It would just be harder to acheive but acheivable. At 850 stars. Its not achievable.

Jaden

@suzequeue

And I don't get the attitude of "I deserve all the rewards and those who are new(er) to the game or can't spend hundreds of $$ can go f themselves".

You do realize that lower level players still get the green crap in gold crates, do you? And that it is damn hard to beat the challenge maps with crappy gear, also next to impossible to get good gear because every reward is low?

Getting better is tough because you get next to no badges, only crappy gear, next to no TG...

I can judge this very well because I have 3 accounts, one "endgame" account and two lower ones, one I would say is mid level and the other approaching that state...

People putting in effort should never feel they are not worth getting good rewards. That goes for gear, too. Legendary isn't cheaper to get from TG store just because the gear level is 20 and not 24. Raiding nets me about 350 TG on the mid account vs. 500ish on the main. Now how is that fair, especially since the mid level account will grow out of the gear faster than the end level?

I have to do about nothing to get the summer tokens on my main, lets be real here. It is easy. Be in a guild of active players, play challenges at a lazy ass pace, do all the dailies, play Distance (and even there reaching the 2nd set should be easy for endgamers)...

Mid level players already struggle - I have about 200 fewer summer tokens on my middle account (level 20 survivors) than on my main.

To now see that there will be 40 summer tokens I will never be able to reach on my alts but will get on my main without any effort at all just doesn't feel right.

General_Quatre

It's showing me 8 tokens at 10 stars. Is that really double? Maybe I wasn't paying attention last week but was the first reward really only 4 tokens at 10 stars..?

anniesprinkles

@PigBenis

That is an illogical comparison and is absolutely ridiculous!

I was only trying to help out my guild mates who can't reach 850 stars.

Next time I'll know better and do what you're doing...sorry suckers, I get the reward and you don't...too bad for you but yay for me.

I'm done!

Jaden

PigBenis said:

anniesprinkles said:

suzequeue said:

anniesprinkles said:

I just wanted to say thank you since 40 extra summer tokens is a very nice reward and also because I can get 850 stars per challenge.

This is also very unfair to mid level players & should have been based on individual player levels NOT on who can reach 850 stars.

At certain levels you CAN'T reach 850 stars, I don't care how good you are. This also suggests to players that can't reach 850 stars that their contributions don't really seem to matter. Imo

Another thing I would like to add is lower level players ALREADY get less stars from the distance, if they are at least at a level they can even play the distance.

I really think this should have been a reward EVERYONE had at least a CHANCE to get.

There is no need for me to grind away to Level 68 and level 24 players if everyone feels they 'deserve' to be rewarded the same amount at Level 14,20 or 24.. I don't understand this attitude of complaining about things like this.

@suzequeue

If you had bothered to read my thread...I can already each 850 stars easily and will be rewarded with 40 extra summer tokens.

What I'm saying is players that CAN'T reach 850 stars work just as hard as I do and why shouldn't they be rewarded the same also.

And I would also like to add that I don't understand ppl like you that only seem to consider themselves and not everyone else too.

Using your logic, a fast food worker should get the same rewards and earn just as much money as a doctor because they work "equally as hard". That's just not true. I don't care for ANY part of a SOCIALIST system. The people that put in more work and more time should be getting greater rewards. New players DO have the opportunity to get the legendary version, even if they are starting out today. It just means they will have to spend a far greater amount of money to get it. It's akin to a a high school graduate having to put in the time, money, and effort to go through college and med school to become a doctor. I don't know about you, but I don't want a Doogie Howser practicing medicine on me.

So, what you are implying is that a fast food worker that has been doing that job for 20 years should earn more than a doctor who has just started working in the field? Or if a fast food worker works 80 hours and a doctor just 50, the fast food worker should earn more, since, you know... they put in more time? (See how that does not make sense? )

I could comment on the socialist part, too, but I am not going to discuss politics in here.

Steeboon

> @anniesprinkles said:
> I just wanted to say thank you since 40 extra summer tokens is a very nice reward and also because I can get 850 stars per challenge.
>
> This is also very unfair to mid level players & should have been based on individual player levels NOT on who can reach 850 stars.
>
> At certain levels you CAN'T reach 850 stars, I don't care how good you are. This also suggests to players that can't reach 850 stars that their contributions don't really seem to matter. Imo
>
> Another thing I would like to add is lower level players ALREADY get less stars from the distance, if they are at least at a level they can even play the distance.
>
> I really think this should have been a reward EVERYONE had at least a CHANCE to get.


There is a “no bodyshots” event on Sunday, there shouldn’t be any reason why one can’t get 850 stars.

deb1hd

@Steeboon do you realize that rounds dont go to three untill you reach round 27. I play up to 5 levels above my survivors and still only get around 650 stars. I doubt very seriously that I'll reach 850 do to no bodyshots.

Jaden

@Steeboon

Uhm... not being at a high enough level, not having good gear, badges, survivors, heroes... Freemen? Walkers swarming from every direction... just to name a few things why people might not be able to get 850 stars.

tabernac

@deb1hd - Dust off those Bruisers and those Warriors with Interrupt weapons and you might be surprised how far you can go...

I_Am_Psycho

I so need the entertainment to cheer me up today as well

SPC_TORRES

I am looking at this just a little different....... This is guild week, so maybe they could have worked that " Personal Reward " at 850 stars into the guild milestones.

DrUnpleasant

As I've mentioned previously, everyone should have equal opportunity to get the legendary RPG if they put the effort in. It's clearly going to be difficult/impossible for people who aren't high enough level to do 'normal' Distance in any case.

For the people in the middle ground (<lv22 survivors) you already get less tokens due to doing Normal rather than hard challenge AND the RPG will be less valuable to these players on the assumption that they'll level up soon, at which point the RPG becomes less powerful.

So, yeah - there's already an advantage for high level players... no need to make the advantage even greater.

DLich

I also think it's grossly unfair that players can spend money on this game to get weapons, gold, armor, radio's etc. It's not fair that players like myself, who don't have enough money to buy these things, aren't able to get these things free.

Because of the amount of money in my bank account, I am ineligible for these amazing bundles that other players can purchase but I cannot.

The 40 tokens is an extra incentive to reward players who CAN achieve that threshold. Although I do understand "sticking up for the little guy" in this instance the "little guy" isn't getting less; they just aren't able to earn more. There's a difference.

Besides the double tokens they earn should more than make up for it (regularly 106; this week should be 212).

Maybe because I'm a lvl 68 player end gamer the idea of some lower level players not being able to get the 40 summer tokens isn't a big deal to me. NG hasn't said "anyone who doesn't get to 850 stars will only get 66 tokens (but everyone else will get 106)" they are just giving more for reaching a threshold they pre-set (I also assume by seeing numbers etc of players scores over the weeks etc.)

I have no intention on throwing a disagree with anyone who feels differently in this thread; but

anniesprinkles said:

This also suggests to players that can't reach 850 stars that their contributions don't really seem to matter.

As long as a guild combined can earn 6500 and an individual player can earn 500 they will still earn all the same rewards they normally would (actually double rewards they normally would). That's 325 stars each person (for a full 20 person guild). That is the minimum a person would need to contribute for their contribution to matter (to the guild). 500 stars should be the personal threshold to attain the maximum number of summer tokens. If a player can get to 850 then they get a bonus reward.

At no point does me hitting 850 stars and getting the 40 bonus summer tokens mean that someone else will get less tokens. They aren't taking them from someone else and giving them to lvl 68's; they are giving a bonus to lvl 68's (or around there)

Kratos

To reach 850 stars I will have to be perfect on every map through 27.1 (853 stars) which happens to be 6 levels above Abe & 7 above the rest of my toons. Not saying it is impossible but from the talk already getting perfect stars seems unrealistic so probably need to finish 27.2 and maybe well into 27.3.

Firekid

Why have summer tokens at all? Just give everyone all the rewards at certain days? Is that what your saying? Remember the carols kingdom spear fiasco? Endgamers complaining because they already had carol legendary etc? It's an event and it'll benefit some people more than others. In fact these 40 for
850 stars pails in comparison to those mid level players not in a guild who hit 6500 each week they have no chance! Should that also be scaled so they get an "equal" chance? In which case we are back to just give everyone the damn thing and don't have an event.

Scowley

Don't forget that the RPG will soon become underpowered for lower level players as they will level up it will become useless.

Shut_Up

> @Kratos said:
> To reach 850 stars I will have to be perfect on every map through 27.1 (853 stars) which happens to be 6 levels above Abe & 7 above the rest of my toons. Not saying it is impossible but from the talk already getting perfect stars seems unrealistic so probably need to finish 27.2 and maybe well into 27.3

Maybe that's how NG should have done it, if you complete the round that is +5 or +6 over you highest survivors you get the reward.

Firekid

Or maybe NG wanted to reward people who have played enough to get their survivors to a certain level, like they have?

Firekid

> @Scowley said:
> Don't forget that the RPG will soon become underpowered for lower level players as they will level up it will become useless.

From using the green one it will be pretty much useless from the moment anyone gets it anyway. I'm more interested in the Sasha tokens and phones anyway.

mudpie

For all of those that disagree with @anniesprinkles thread...now we know what happened to your hearts.

Jaden

Those people not in such a guild could go find one (or look for a merge, even if it was just temporary) to get their tokens each week.

And the Carol spear thing was not only problematic for end gamers - it was problematic for everyone not able to meet the goals. That could have included people foolish enough to spend money on that goal (foolish because it probably costs less to just buy the spear) and people doing all they could and still not be able to get it due to RNG.

This time, however, they could have just added a lower threshold to reward the tokens at. Would have made everyone happy, I suppose - maybe not those that really are of the mindset they deserve those 40 tokens more at no real effort (850 is nothing for end gamers, let's at least be honest here - so it's bascially free tokens) than a lower level player who pushes hard and does everything they can to level up and who will still fall short.

I especially don't get why players who already get more summer tokens everywhere need even more of them while those who think that it does not even make sense to try will be discouraged further.

If the goal is to keep players interested and playing, maybe not make it seem as if it would be impossible to get the high level rewards if you are not an end-gamer.