Next week's proposal (December 12th's Challenge)

Kaz

Hello, everyone!

This week we'll have a minor change with the Gas in the TGS. The change is:
- One 30 Gas offer in the Trade Goods Shop per day (From Wednesday to Monday, 13:00 UTC) other than one per restock.
(The Difficulty progression balance will remain the same)

With this change, we want to:
- Solve the problem if the player misses the restock when logging before 13:00 UTC.
- Don't increase the number of gas offers during events where the restock times decrease.
- Compare the results between the previous weeks and see which one works better for both the players and us.
- Although we can see a great increase in missions played and that you guys are enjoying it, we are seeing some, not-so-happy results as well. Which of course can be unrelated, but it seems it's not. So we are trying a different setup to confirm our theories.

I completely understand how this sounds and I have an idea of the feedback I'm going to receive, but maybe if I list the problems we are finding, it can make you understand from where we are coming from:
- We can see that players are buying this offer a lot, but the Trade Goods balance (average per player) looks the same, so it doesn't seem that players are spending more TG. Seems that they are buying only the gas offer instead of the other offers. One of our goals was to increase the Trade Goods spending in order to make this resource more valuable in the game (Especially for high-level players).
- Gold usage per mission (average per player) stayed the same, so the engagement we got didn't really affect the Gold spend behavior.
- Drop in Gold usage for gas (average per player).*
- Drop in Gas Boosters sales (including the one-week booster if compared with the Halloween event).*

*I know those seem obvious, but we weren't expecting such a huge drop.

This is only a test and we know that a great majority of our players enjoyed the 30 gas offer in every restock, so that's something we want to keep if possible. But we need to run this set up to prove our speculations first. We should run it for another two weeks and then make a decision based on those 4 challenges.

And of course, as always, we are open to your feedback.

Regarding the difficulty progression, we are getting a lot of mixed feedback telling us to make it even more challenging, and some to return to what it was. Which seems that we should actually keep it at where it is and see how it'll go with one Guild Wars battle first.

Thanks for reading it and share your thoughts!

Click here to read the changes we had last week.

ATLAS-Z

Ok doke

Yes, once a day is still nice.

donald6283

it was good as it lasted but once a day its still good 🤘

Dodkong

There would be only one time during the year that I would ever consider buying the week long booster offers and that's when I have two weeks off in and around Christmas/New Year's. I just don't have the free time to make such a purchase at any other point in the year worthwhile in my eyes.

As for the single booster, I still bought one last weekend simply to allow myself to stock up on gas for the Distance on Tuesday. Even with the gas offer only appearing once a day, I think I'll still be able to accumulate enough so that I can make it to my limit and not use gold to buy the gas to do so.

So for one player, this should be a change that won't make that huge of a difference.

Kratos

As stated above I would never buy the 7 day booster as most of it would be a waste. I do buy a 24 hour occasionally when I know I am going to have time to use it. The 30 gas in TG is great but I figured it would go away eventually & I can understand why based on lost revenue. Being offered only once daily is still great IMO. I could even live with it at every restock but only once a week or something.

EDIT: To add I did run more OP raids to restock my extra TG spending. For example I just had my restock and bought the gas, both radio offers, hero & bruiser tokens....total of about 6500 TG spent. I will run more raids tonight to get back up to my comfortable supply of 70-75K.

Narnia

Gas in TG shop every restock did seem like it was more like a weeklong event. I was hoping if NG had experienced less spending in terms of boosters and/or gold, I was hoping they might find that spending patterns were increased elsewhere in the game, like for bundles, weapons, or components shop items. It seems this wasn't the case. 30 more gas/day along with a reduced grind will still satisfy me personally. I hope many others can agree on this fix as a short term resolution while NG focuses on new aspects of the game, in-game glitch fixes.

Thanks for the update @Kaz it's nice to know what to expect next week!

Carly

I really enjoyed the 30 gas at every restock. I used my trade goods for the gas, tokens (hero & class), and even recently started purchasing the 500 crates for trade goods.

Hope gas eventually returns to every restock because I certainly got spoiled in a short period of time. And it really was nice to have the gas to contribute more in challenges since I do not purchase gas boosters. But if gas doesn’t return, it was nice while it lasted. And once a day is better than not at all.

As for difficulty progression, I am fine in that area and continuing under that format gets no complaints from me.

TCBRITO

Bad news, will greatly reduce the available gas... the reduction in the challenge was very small, maybe we could try to cut the triple rounds definitely the level 32, leaving only 2 rounds also.

suzequeue

I am one of those who stopped buying a gas booster on Wednesday to get a heads up on the challenge and grind away. I haven't bought it the past 2 weeks because I absolutely love the 30 Gas and was going to use the money I had saved to buy a Christmas bundle. I have NO IDEA if this feedback will help.

WellyLuga

Yeah it was good whilst it lasted but I never expected it to remain forever. It was nice being able to hit limit in the challenge and do the distance without opening my wallet but oh well. I can understand why they've done it and I'm not surprised by such a drastic drop in booster sales.

Maybe if NG could consider altering the drop tables to up gas drop rates? Maybe pull a few % here and there from 1-3* scrap equipment!

LoneWanderer360

I never buy the boosters because I usually don't have time to take advantage of it. What if you could buy a 24 hour booster, but the clock only ran while you were logged in?

TJS

I survived without the 30 gas for TG before, I'll survivor again.

Once a day is still better than before.

andy75

I love the week long boosters. I play in spurts when I have time so it works good for me. Had over 700 gas when I came off the last one. Lol

avelardez

Don’t agree with the idea of once a day. If I want to be F2P this does not allow me to advance as high as I can go. This forces me to limit my play and buy gas or do both. In the Distance and challenge I can do both and not have to choose. It’s a disadvantage to players. The use of TG for gas is great but to only provide me 1 round of gas a day is not cool, not cool at all. Before I could get gas for 3 rounds per day which increases my star count now I’m down stars and round passes.

bladgier

I knew this gas offer was too good to stay, something was telling me that.

Do whatever you gotta to to keep the business going, because that's what will keep the game going and that's what I care about.

Limiting this offer to once a day seems about fair.

Edit: transparency and honesty in your post Kaz is really awesome and appreciated.

JayZ

@Kaz I appreciate the honesty about why you are making the change and how your business is affected.

Those that have massive amounts of TG (I'm personally up to 450k) partially have those amounts because they purchase armors/weapons and already have great regular survivors. The things that end gamers need the most are radios, hero tokens, and gear with guaranteed good traits, so my suggestions would be:
- 5 radios for TG in every restock
- gear with guaranteed traits
- 3 heroes per restock, with 20 tokens per hero

Stalker20

Maybe on challenge days have 8 gas every restock and 30 gas once. #meetinthemiddle

Governator

Maybe run a test on what happens if we all get 2000 gold in every restock next week?

Jenng

JayZ said:

- 5 radios for TG in every restock
- gear with guaranteed traits
- 3 heroes per restock, with 20 tokens per hero

Pretty much this is my perfect tg store. I have 1 million + in TG and I would gladly spend on @JayZ the tg store unicorn’s options.

aquila

As a F2P endgamer, i could reach my real limits with the extra 30 gas.
Altough events like the herd or 1 min gas are good too, they can't help that much, because gas is most useful when distributed among days.
Absence of some better equipment can be tolerated somewhat but not being able to play enough can't be compensated.
Maybe 30 gas per restock is too much but 30 gas per day will probably be less than enough. Gas amount less than 30 or more tg cost for gas or lowering challenge mission gas costs can help the dedicated F2P's, if that is even cared about.
I totally understand NG's concerns about their income but F2P players are not a total burden, at least i watch every ad

Jaden

Well, not being that limited in gas and being able to save some for later certainly made me do more missions and also spend some more gold. I even bought a weapon bundle since I was having much more fun not feeling as limited.

Maybe I was a minority here...

I dislike 24h boosters since lots of it gets wasted (sleep, work, eating, hospital times) and I certainly won't start buying gold in its own.

Maybe it wouldn't be such a bad idea to try 99 cent booster that lasts a few hours (up to 12, maybe) and see how that would go?

Maybe you could also make the 30 gas per day offer all week long instead of just on challenge days? It would still be far less than 30 gas at every restock but we would have some for Distance and other modes, too.

crambert_nec

I loved the 30 gas per restock, and my largely f2p guild did as well, but I had a feeling it was too good to stay permanent. At times it felt like I was on a booster having so much gas. I had a rather busy week but was still able to hit RSL 37 which would normally not happen on a week like that. And I did that all without buying a booster for the first time in a long time. I definitely can see where they missed out on booster sales. I'm happy NG is keeping 30 once per day. I do like @Danski_46's idea of having 8 gas on every restock and the 30 just once a day.

Troublemaker

@Kaz so far I can safely say the following:

The 30 Gas offer completely drained my TG;
I didn't buy gas boosters because of it (it's very expensive for brazilians);
It helped manage my gaming time (by knowing that resource was always available);
The grind isn't fixed and I still think all these changes are leading us nowhere.

ATLAS-Z

> @Jenng said:
> - 5 radios for TG in every restock
> - gear with guaranteed traits
> - 3 heroes per restock, with 20 tokens per hero
>
> Pretty much this is my perfect tg store. I have 1 million + in TG and I would gladly spend on @JayZ the tg store unicorn’s options.

You have +1,000,000 and you're buying tokens and radios? You must raid like a possessed person? That's huge.

I only have like 70k and I buy up every shooter/Hunter tokens, some heroes, and every radio. Raid when I can Monday usually.

Waltz46n2

I really like the 3 stage levels and the grind for the XP. With the gas booster being limited to only once a day maybe bring back the 3 rounds per level. Before level 32. Believe me I have no problem spending trade goods on other things than gas.

Firekid

I'm sure you are aware @NerfZone187 but you do still have a small chance of crafting legendary from lower comps. I love getting legendary from all green or lower I really wouldn't want them to take that away.

Stalker20

For me the drop rates for legendary frags and components was already low and should have been kept that way instead of reducing it too much.

Firekid

You must have had much better luck than me then nerf, in fact I think there is an @ALF4reals video which show the sort of luck I used to have with that event! Also I think it helps I've had a lot more luck tha. You getting gold frags recently too was up to 7 not that long ago coupled with these components events where you can trade up 10 epic components for a leg badge fragment im firmly in the "this ways better" camp. Hope you find a pale horse soon @NerfZone187!