AI Opponents a complete waste of my time

SgtSalami

I just fought a battle against an AI opponent that put up a 0. At the start of the battle, looking at the tier and number of opponents, I thought it would be an interesting fight. At first, I thought the 0 was an update glitch. When I found out it was a new feature with the update, I was less than happy.I spend lots of time and organizing and supervising gw. as leader of my guild.  I also spend gold on heals during the battle. This past battle was a complete waste of my time and not entertaining at all. If this continues, I will no longer be putting this effort into gw. I would rather fight against a potentially unbalanced foe than ever do this again. This new feature to the update is trash in my opinion and ruins the most entertaining game mod in nml..

[Deleted User]

give us some screenshots or so

Karajoca

I agree it's strange solution, but it's even more strange that you are so upset about it. 
I don't see why would your performance or making GW plans change regardless of the opponent. You should always look to do your best and earn more rewards. By doing your best i don't mean trying to complete hardest sectors but completing those you and team usually complete without fails, doesn't matter who opponent is

WellyLuga

I think the current way with facing a bot is better than facing another guild who has +/- 1 player than you. One guild gets screwed out of a win. At least this way you get an easy win and can earn your resources without wasting much gold/tools

SgtSalami

@Karajoca Because I spent gold, nades and medkits on it. I would like it all back. Also, I like the real competition fighting against a human opponent. I spent hours of my life supervising my guild in a pointless battle. If you don't understand why I am upset, I don't know what more to tell you. This is a very poor change to this game mod.

@Wellyluga I am happy to face humans even if they are stronger. Don't waste my time with a bot.

@Crocodile I will post ss from my ipad shortly.

SgtSalami

If this is just some glitch, I am happy to retract my statements. If it is not a glitch, but a feature, then I stand by my statements.

WellyLuga

SgtSalami said:

@Karajoca Because I spent gold, nades and medkits on it. I would like it all back. Also, I like the real competition fighting against a human opponent. I spent hours of my life supervising my guild in a pointless battle. If you don't understand why I am upset, I don't know what more to tell you. This is a very poor change to this game mod.

@Wellyluga I am happy to face humans even if they are stronger. Don't waste my time with a bot.

@Crocodile I will post ss from my ipad shortly.

Unless you end up facing a guild of much lower level then more often than not you have no chance. You would likely lose and miss out on win bonuses. I dislike missing out on rewards due to poor matchmaking but to each their own.

SgtSalami

@WellyLuga fair point. It’s been rare that my guild has been matched against a guild that has seriously wiped us and I thought the matchmaking was that bad. Our worst defeat was against a team with same number of opponents and same tier; they just had a couple of monsters on the other side. One was the space station Mir.

grzechExp

SgtSalami said:

If this is just some glitch, I am happy to retract my statements. If it is not a glitch, but a feature, then I stand by my statements.

Would you prefer to battle 8 players against 10? We had that 3 times in one war before the upgrade. I would prefer governor.
Honestly if you see governor as opponent you can always change the plan to the low risk one that will play out without any coordination.
1500 is a peanut.

[Deleted User]

SgtSalami said:

One was the space station Mir.

Mir also meen Peace in russian 

Firekid

@SgtSalamiif the opposing guild got 0 then it was a glitch. If you were facing a guild called govenor or merle and they had a set score of 1500 to beat then that’s the Ai. 

SgtSalami

grzechExp said:

SgtSalami said:

If this is just some glitch, I am happy to retract my statements. If it is not a glitch, but a feature, then I stand by my statements.

Would you prefer to battle 8 players against 10? We had that 3 times in one war before the upgrade. I would prefer governor.
Honestly if you see governor as opponent you can always change the plan to the low risk one that will play out without any coordination.
1500 is a peanut.

Mine wasn’t that. I try make sure to have fewer than 8 In the team to avoid the big boys. We have actually beaten larger teams in the past. Here is ss. But really it’s no fun to play a bot.

SgtSalami

Firekid said:

@SgtSalamiif the opposing guild got 0 then it was a glitch. If you were facing a guild called govenor or merle and they had a set score of 1500 to beat then that’s the Ai. 

Ok so just an annoying glitch. I hope they clear it up soon so I don’t waste effort here. And...in that case.....never mind lol.

SgtSalami

I was really looking forward to a good fight against this group. 

Karajoca

I did say i agree with you @SgtSalami, this look like very lame solution, but like guys said better that then being outnumbered. 

Because, look, the fact that you get to play vs bot, only meaning that they couldn't find proper enemy for you. With old matchmaking search for enemy would expand and you would end up on +/-1 difference in players.

At least you saw how it is now. Next time when you see enemy scores are 0 for long period you will know they are bots. 
About tools, what can i say... i faced strongest possible enemy yesterday and used like 15 tools.
Conclusion?

They didn't have their best day so we would win even if i didn't spend that many.
Do i regret? No.
We choose our own missions and i play those hard missions because i like it and i can say i am not bad in doing them.
I don't buy guild gifts, i don't have top challenge scores, there are way better in my guild then me, so my "gift" to them is organizing and playing hardest missions in GW. 
That simply will never change regardless who is the opponent. Its my duty

Cheer up, and enjoy your win

grzechExp

So you are reffering to the 0 "ghost chain" i mentioned in different discussion what you are reffering is not an AI aka Governor guld.

https://forums.nextgames.com/walkingdead/discussion/44223/ghost-guilds-with-0-score-chain#latest

I got information from Fluxxx that they've recognized that bug and are looking into it to fix it.

SgtSalami

grzechExp said:

So you are reffering to the 0 "ghost chain" i mentioned in different discussion what you are reffering is not an AI aka Governor guld.

https://forums.nextgames.com/walkingdead/discussion/44223/ghost-guilds-with-0-score-chain#latest

I got information from Fluxxx that they've recognized that bug and are looking into it to fix it.

Yes, I misunderstood. It’s not a bot in my case rather a post update glitch. Somewhere else I had been informed that it was part of the update and a feature and if so it would piss me off big time. Now I have a better understanding of it. I am glad that they recognize this and will address it soon.

Having said that, I am not a big fan of the bot either though. Sure it would be an easy win, but no way would I waste tools or gold against a bot. I want the challenge of a good battle. However, I have had few big matchmaking problems in my guild’s battles. We have been quite active so its interesting to hear that others have had many. I do understand that those of you who would have like 3 bad matches in one war would be quite upset.

SgtSalami

@Karajoca actually the 0 chain is not a bot but seems to be a glitch, which is something I misunderstood. If you are not ready for it it is truly annoying, which is why I disagreed with you. I was really pissed off after all that work and stuff spent when we could have just coasted to a w and used it to practice new things and test new combos or try to push the level of what can be done which will be what bot work will now entail. Well now I know.

is it just the Merle and governor teams for bot teams?

xbamfx

So can you lose to a team that is bug with 0 point scoring during your battle? I’m curious about that. We have an enemy today with no score at all since start. Anyone know about this? Thanks in advance for info 

SgtSalami

xbamfx said:

So can you lose to a team that is bug with 0 point scoring during your battle? I’m curious about that. We have an enemy today with no score at all since start. Anyone know about this? Thanks in advance for info 

This is exactly the bug I posted about. See above ss . Don’t think you can lose. It’s just coast city. Relax, have a margarita and enjoy your win. Save your gold and tools for another time. I wish I had mine back.

SgtSalami

Crocodile said:

SgtSalami said:

@One was the space station Mir.

Mir also meen Peace in russian 

Thanks for the translation croc.

xbamfx

SgtSalami said:

xbamfx said:

So can you lose to a team that is bug with 0 point scoring during your battle? I’m curious about that. We have an enemy today with no score at all since start. Anyone know about this? Thanks in advance for info 

This is exactly the bug I posted about. See above ss . Don’t think you can lose. It’s just coast city. Relax, have a margarita and enjoy your win.

Unfortunately I never relax in GW, i always play to the max of my abilities for score and training. I get what you mean tho not hard to win the match! Thanks buddy 

IcePeter

I’m almost more paranoid when I see a team putting up zeroes since I’ve seen teams either start late or their scores appearing late. It’s easy to say afterwards that you shouldn’t have bothered with healing and tools, but hypothetically their scores could start appearing at any time, even after it’s over if a bug is discovered and fixed.

SgtSalami

IcePeter said:

I’m almost more paranoid when I see a team putting up zeroes since I’ve seen teams either start late or their scores appearing late. It’s easy to say afterwards that you shouldn’t have bothered with healing and tools, but hypothetically their scores could start appearing at any time, even after it’s over if a bug is discovered and fixed.

That’s why we went all in. Thought they were still putting up points we couldn’t see. Very annoying.