Star Hero

brucewayne007

Star Hero for Challenges is great, This will help prevent ties and mix teams up. 

But answer me this @Lexia
Why don’t we have a star hero again for Guild Wars?

Burmeliinis

Agree, I know there were problems with incorrect scores when using the star hero, but it would be really fun with something new for GW also. We’ve had quite a few seasons now with no changes.

ATLAS-Z

Ummm scoring bugs?

I don't think star hero is the answer for guild wars.

But maybe we can think of something? 

ghost_pepper

The whole reason star hero was pulled was because of gw. Well, maybe not the only reason but it sounds better when I say it that way.

brucewayne007

ATLAS-Z said:

Ummm scoring bugs?

I don't think star hero is the answer for guild wars.

But maybe we can think of something? 

I think it would prevent a lot of draws and give us results every time. Teams would gamble and use the “Star Hero” on a higher level to reap rewards in comparison and/or potentially butcher it or do well and bask in glory & champagne 🤣

Nobody like to put in the work just for a draw. 

I’m glad the challenge is adopting it. Not like I care a big deal anymore but for the masses it will make teams use those forgotten Hero’s. 

brucewayne007

@ghost_pepper
Yes, but with all the tools and perfection these days we need to do something to change it up. 

The format is still in Beta so let’s try these things again and dip those toes in. 

#ForeverBeta 
haha

brucewayne007

@ATLAS-Z

I had been thinking about how GW can mix up the scoring for some time. I just keep coming back to the same result of being back the star hero for it. 

Another way which would be cool is each tool you use in a map, it deducts 1 point. 

So a 60 point map that requires 3 tools to complete, now becomes a 57 point Map on completion. Not sure if the game can track this and implement it. But in my head it sounds great. More rewards for the team who use less tools. And potentially no more draws

ATLAS-Z

Yeah but they won't put a negative spin on using tools, no matter how much elite players like the idea. 

It's been brought up many many many many times for challenges as well and it's still not on the table so it probably never will be.

I'm still racking my brain for other ideas and coming up empty so far other than what's being done in challenge

Lexia

brucewayne007 said:

Star Hero for Challenges is great, This will help prevent ties and mix teams up. 

But answer me this @Lexia
Why don’t we have a star hero again for Guild Wars?

As pretty much replied here already, there were some difficult bugs with Star Hero in GW and the scoring related to that, which ultimately lead to the whole feature getting removed. With the reintroduction of the feature, you will still have use of the Star Hero bonuses during GW, but scoring will stay the same 🙂

I'd personally also prefer to look into ways of getting GW out of Beta first, before introducing possible bigger changes to mechanics and features in GW. 

ionica

The announcement says star hero in lead gives an extra fourth star. When star hero is not in lead, only 3 stars are earned.

brucewayne007

@Lexia

Thank you for your response. This will prevent my curiosity for the future on this situation. 

A shame it can’t work anymore, but such is life. Happy to have an answer. Many thanks 🙏🏻 

brucewayne007

@Tux77
Yes Lead position. 

I assume the MM will cater for all. 

ghost_pepper

Star Hero has to be in lead, not just on the team. So that means competitive players will have to play singles for the maps which allow the star hero through some wild mechanic to work successfully. That will greatly increase the time needed "to be competitive" which will directly impact the amount of bitching regarding the new system.

"It takes too long!"
"All day long I have to play this silly team!"
"Now I'm running low on tools!"
"I had to buy a third gas booster!"

This is a brilliant solution. I can already hear it working. No one should casually remain 'on top' each week. Work for it. Smart! I love this!

ATLAS-Z

Honestly I think the simplest solution @Lexia in the event of a "perfect" tie, is to just award both teams victory.

With the 1.5 multiplier


Least amount of time and resources (and headache) for NGs for largest amount of disgruntled Elites happy.

Not a perfect solution, but maybe the best we can ask for. 

WellyLuga

ATLAS-Z said:

Honestly I think the simplest solution @Lexia in the event of a "perfect" tie, is to just award both teams victory.

With the 1.5 multiplier


Least amount of time and resources (and headache) for NGs for largest amount of disgruntled Elites happy.

Not a perfect solution, but maybe the best we can ask for. 

Yeah I think this is the best we can hope for without impacting too much of the rest of community. 

At least that way it won't become a case of avoiding big matchups to limit your draws.

brucewayne007

@ATLAS-Z @WellyLuga

I can get behind that also. Teams shouldn’t be punished for running a clean sheet and having a draw. 

Lexia

ATLAS-Z said:

Honestly I think the simplest solution @Lexia in the event of a "perfect" tie, is to just award both teams victory.

With the 1.5 multiplier


Least amount of time and resources (and headache) for NGs for largest amount of disgruntled Elites happy.

Not a perfect solution, but maybe the best we can ask for. 

I've noted this down and also shared it with the team. Generally seemed like a well received suggestion, but let's see when we start planning the next update 🙂