How is it possible for a stunned defender to dodge an attack?

DIblis · July 2016

As the title says, how is it possible for a stunned defender or survivor to dodge an attack? Just did 2 raids and this happened both times.
Does anyone test the game and new abilities prior to release?

Gabina · August 2016

I've seen that happen, too. Reported it to Help but they didn't say anything about it. Been reporting it every time I run into a 100% dodger, too but they say nothing. It's really just not fair and it's a problem.

DIblis · August 2016

The main issue is the lack of response. Needs to change, i can accept the game has bugs to be fixed but not no answer confirming it's a bug is not acceptable. @zbot have you received an answer yet?

zbot · August 2016

Nothing yet, i will follow up.

Amiga · August 2016

Happened to me often... IT need to be fixed

SgtSalami · August 2016

Yes, it makes no sense.

MarsOne · August 2016

It has has been like this since they released 2.0.

DLich · August 2016

If "stun"
Then "Dodge = null"

Just input that code and it should fix the problem @zbot

Let me know where to send the invoice

But on a serious note, I've never noticed or paid attention but can our survivors dodge while stunned? If so leave that part intact please

Shut_Up · August 2016

Edit: in the following response when I say dodge I mean melee dodge and not bullet dodge.

Some people are saying it's been like this since the update but I thought it was always like this. I am used to being hit by tank walkers whether outpost or challenge missions and still having a chance to dodge other walkers after being stunned. I also remember plenty of times being stunned for 2 rounds by a bruiser in outposts and during the 2 round stun the bruiser may try to hit the stunned guy again but still having a chance to dodge. I read that one major reason why the concussion trait doesn't increase whether solve or gold is because 3 round stuns or more would change game balance too much. To me if you remove dodging while stunned it could affect game balance too much.

I could be wrong I've played a lot of missions so they get blurred in my memory but that's my memory of it.

Also careful what you wish for because if they change that you can't dodge while being stunned then it could affect more than just PvP it could affect challenge missions and future story missions. I for one am fine with no change on this one.

@zbot @Teeceezy

DIblis · August 2016

If you get stunned, your stunned (period) but defending survivors in raids still have dodge for melee and ranged varieties.

DIblis · August 2016

Refreshing to see that the mods get the same treatment. C'mon ingame player support it's an easy question..

zbot · August 2016

@DIblis , NG is looking into this issue, I will update when there's any news.

DIblis · August 2016

Then by that logic retaliate would still work as it could be considered a reflex action the same as dodge. It however doesnt work?

MoD · August 2016

I agree, stunned should be stunned.

Retailate: In PVP I observed that a stunned opponent is still able to retaliate (even in 2nd turn of a 2 turn stun. That is plain BS.

JackBauer · August 2016

Stunned without further dodge possibility: If you're stunned by a fattie, this would be then similar as being in struggle.

rgerkman · August 2016

Happened to me a few times yesterday. He was stunned & dodged my other two Ranged weapons !! Defeats purpose of stun !

& thank you zbot!

Amiga · August 2016

Also our survivors are able to avoid fatty attack with stun effect

I don't mind about it but during raids it's bullock.

DLich · August 2016

Muscle memory is to blame for dodging while stunned.

lmfgunnut · August 2016

People want this fixed for opposing forces, but I for one am very grateful to be able to dodge while stunned. Your characters ABSOLUTELY dodge while stunned, I count on it. If this "bug" is fixed, the level of difficulty for this game will increase a ton.

TheLostOnes · August 2016

There's an opening scene in an episode of The Walking Dead, at the time after the Governor has left his group (and killed most of them) after his first failed attack on the prison.

He's lost, stumbles on his way, seems to have given up on life and wanders among the oblivious walkers. At some point, a walker realizes he's human and lashes out at him. But in his stumbling state, the Governor avoids the attack. Possibly he doesn't even notice it.

That's dodging when you're stunned.

Ovidmikel · August 2016

In real life a rifle shoots farther than a pistol. Unless it's a shotgun rifles don't kill 0.6 meters wide and pipe wrenches as big as the bruisers carry would need a crane to swing them lol oh and has many times do people Dodge bullets at all lol

ant · August 2016

How about a stunned defender, moving and then shooting at me? I can accept the dodge while being stunned, but this is ridiculous! I haven't played outposts in over a month and so with the 0 gas cost, I thought I would give it a try. After seeing this happen on a raid, I've decided it's going to be another month before I raid again.

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