Super Cycle & Changes to Outposts Matchmaking - Official Discussion Thread

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  • MarsOneMarsOne Member Posts: 65
    First match I am matched up with a player of the same level. Load in to 3 level 17 fatties standing in front of my team. Flee. I am not filling my hospital queues on a loss. Thanks but no thanks.
  • AmigaAmiga Member Posts: 3,770
    edited September 2016
    I made 2x raids. Both Rural Farm.
    1 st - not even bruised
    2nd - some health issues ;)
    @Teeceezy
    Death or heavy injured takes almost the same healing time which is little odd.
    2 hrs 25 min of healing heavy injury is definitely too long that's why ppl avoids Outposts.
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  • MadPuppyMadPuppy Moderator Posts: 2,829
    edited September 2016
    One try so far.
    Got bruised on the first walkers.
    After opening the gate even with all chares full I couldn't even get the first defender to bleed.
    Flee.
    Went to hospital that way last night, and cannot afford hospital time when trying to get stars.
    Even with this bruise I need to wait an hour for me to get new stars.
    Steeleman
  • DisasterDisaster Member Posts: 28
    The actualization is even worse, now you fight random people and everyone is two or three levels above your's survivors. Not to mention the zombies are stronger than your best survivor.

    My case level 14 characters fighting level 17 zombies and defenders.

    End of the raid, 3 minutes left, only get a flag one survivor heavy injury, another one bruised, the last one in perfect.

    No more raids.
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  • Shut_UpShut_Up Member Posts: 2,295
    edited September 2016
    @nickc25 Well you aren't going to get any thank you from me for trying to pass judgement on me that I might be young or disrespectful. I tried to comment on the actions of the devs and not make it personal like I've seen so many posts where they are called thieves or called incompetent because they don't deserved to be called names or told they're incompetent. I didn't like the fact that every update has "improved outpost match making" listed in the update and to me the only update that helped match making was the 2.0 update. People at the top of the leaderboard have trouble finding matches and in general for me it doesn't seem like we need to be locked into one choice but rather need more choices. I also think that all the bugs need to be fixed in outposts instead of updating them every month that results in major changes every time.

    Please don't tag me in any more posts just to be judgemental on me.
  • nickc25nickc25 Member Posts: 309
    Shut_Up said:

    @Shteevie that's a shame that you feel that way but I'm not sorry for anything I posted.


    I've obviously seen all the changes come and go through outposts and it's always been a mess when it could be so much more. Instead of giving an honest opinion I will just hijack threads from now one so that I can complain that you need to change the rural map every chance I get.

    Seriously? Are you 12 years old? My previous post gave you the benefit of doubt and I said you was probably being disrespectful because you're passionate about the game. But now you're saying you're not sorry (despite saying you're sorry a few posts back :lol:) and that you're going to hijack threads and basically become a troll, trolls get banned from forums.

    It's all well and good giving an honest opinion but it's how people go about giving that honest opinion that's sets people apart. You kind of sound like Donald Trump when he goes on one of his disgusting rants and then uses the "I'm just being honest" line to justify it. Grow up.
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  • nickc25nickc25 Member Posts: 309
    ceoofogn said:

    So. If a new player comes in, builds up his outpost and has 0 influence, he can NEVER make it to Platinum III. He will reset to 0 every cycle. If you are already in Platinum tiers you have a chance to stay there. But will anyone else get there? Nope! I have to trust that NG is going to match me up better than they currently do now with this blind matching system. I can currently get my survivors to level 15 and have a walker strength of 62. Yet I get matched up with 3 level 17s with a walker strength of over 100. I can't win that raid so I choose an outpost that is more evenly matched. Awesome job NG! I am officially out of the Outpost game as I am only Gold Tier III. I won't make it to Platinum Tier III with the healing time required. I guess you will make it so we will lose our TG from raids too since that is another way to change the outposts in a negative way.

    It says that players will not be reset unless you're platinum or above, so how can that be interpreted as being reset to zero and never being able to get to platinum? If anything, the platinum players should feel hard done by because they're being reset. Personally, I don't care about a meaningless virtual leaderboard, some people become obsessed with it, so much so that it affects how they treat others, so I've never really been one for being bothered about leaderboards.
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  • MadPuppyMadPuppy Moderator Posts: 2,829
    That'll do @nickc25 and @Shut_Up
    You've had your say to what you think of each other. Leave it at that.
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  • Shut_UpShut_Up Member Posts: 2,295
    I agree because I didn't ask to be tagged up like.

    Since Teeceezy is on I'm going to ask if the pop up saying your outpost has been attacked isn't coming up anymore, was this an intended change? It's been like that since the 2.1 update.
  • nickc25nickc25 Member Posts: 309
    Shut_Up said:

    @nickc25 Well you aren't going to get any thank you from me for trying to pass judgement on me that I might be young or disrespectful. I tried to comment on the actions of the devs and not make it personal like I've seen so many posts where they are called thieves or called incompetent because they don't deserved to be called names or told they're incompetent. I didn't like the fact that every update has "improved outpost match making" listed in the update and to me the only update that helped match making was the 2.0 update. People at the top of the leaderboard have trouble finding matches and in general for me it doesn't seem like we need to be locked into one choice but rather need more choices. I also think that all the bugs need to be fixed in outposts instead of updating them every month that results in major changes every time.



    Please don't tag me in any more posts just to be judgemental on me.

    MadPuppy said:

    That'll do @nickc25 and @Shut_Up
    You've had your say to what you think of each other. Leave it at that.

    I'm not sure how pointing out someone is being extremely disrespectful is judgemental. There is a way for people to behave and as I said in my post, people should think of how they'd like to be treated at work or their family members to be treated at work before behaving like that. So none of that is judgemental, you said it yourself, you're going to hijack threads - children and trolls do things like that.

    @MadPuppy I've not said what I think of anyone TBH. I hate coming to forums and seeing people behave like that and I was pointing that out, unfortunately it's been taken as me being judgemental :lol:

    I also stuck up for him / her too. I personally think it's not much to ask for people to be respectful of people trying to do a job and improve things for players. This is my last post on this thread though, thanks :smile:

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  • AmigaAmiga Member Posts: 3,770
    edited September 2016
    @Teeceezy
    Outpost has three weak spots:
    - Dodge under stun status
    - Long healing time
    - Rural Field map
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  • DeadShotDeadShot Member Posts: 4
    Hey guys! Great game and awesome concepts! I've been playing this game for a year now. Mainly on and off simply because of the delayed timing between upgrading. Sadly i'm not a huge fan of the latest outpost updates.
    My reasons:
    - Before hand, I could use crates to find a suitable opponent to keep myself from dropping tiers. Nothing kills you more than a last defense lost that puts you at 2999 before an ending cycle.
    - With the new update, I am force the deal with blind luck or "X" out. What's the difference if I can't see what levels I'm up against? Showing only the rarity doesn't help that much.
    - In case I land on 3 opponents 5 levels above me, I have the fleeing option at the cost of precious trophies.
    Not only that we are using crates to blindly find a suitable opponent but the cost comes with the "trophy" price too. I can accept losing trophies from a battle but now I'm also gambling my tier trophies finding an oponent to try to go up in tiers before I even get a chance to raid for trophies?
    I understand how making it blind choosing can spice things up but we lost the element of "guarantee" with the update. The system works for Big level players but doesn't favor the young outposts. I'm down 119 trophies from blind choosing and some fleeing, I haven't won a strategic battle since the update and the cycle just started. I can never find players below me and I always get attack from players above me.
    Any comments guys? I really like this game but this is a huge set back from my perspective.
    Cheers.
  • AmigaAmiga Member Posts: 3,770
    I'm on lvl 19 so there is no issue for me with too higher opponents. I don't know how's it working for lower lvl players...
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    JackBauer
  • MarsOneMarsOne Member Posts: 65
    @Amiga long hospital stays.
  • Shut_UpShut_Up Member Posts: 2,295
    @Amiga you can always join us in the higher influence tiers if you want to see some real tough players. There's a bunch above 4000 that have 2 and 3 purple star heroes and they hit a lot harder.
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  • AmigaAmiga Member Posts: 3,770
    edited September 2016
    @Shut_Up
    I'm going ;)
    @Teeceezy
    ..and third weak spot:
    - Rural Field map

    I made 4 raids (3 times Rural Shit) and now my raiding team is eliminated for 2.5hr
    With respect but I will not use my gold on healing.
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  • CapletonCapleton Member Posts: 441
    @Shut_Up Nowadays you meet those purple survivors even at the lower tiers. Or maybe I am just unlucky cos that is caused by the new matchmaking.

    Afaic playing Outpost during the week collides with earning stars for the challenge. Why should I send my A- and possibly B-Team to hospital when I need them for the higher level maps?

    And usually there are grind-as-much-as-you-can-events on weekends. So there is nearly no time left to do some raids.

    But I appreciate some of the latest changes: I like that the maps are less maze-like and that NG was able to stop the grab the flag and run raids.

    Nonetheless the expectation of hospital bills and the time consuming grind for stars and resources stop me from raiding.
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  • borealisborealis Member Posts: 4
    Tried the 'new' blindmatching system: got my levl 15 survivors into a map facing a full platoon of level 17 walkers, plus level 18 defenders.

    How on Earth is this supposed to be 'balanced'? Not even close.

    I'm not gonna play Outposts anymore until something changes. Come and raid me, I will put a set of low level defenders in crappy suit and not even setup walkers for your pleasure.


    GrimGaelexit_77
  • nickc25nickc25 Member Posts: 309
    Although I did say I wouldn't post again in this topic and I apologise for any issues caused, I've explained why I feel that comments like that are disrespectful and I did cross the line with the Trump comment (although some people would love to be him) so apologies.

    Anyway, some feedback having just done ten raids:

    Although I got bruised a few times, I found it more competitive and thus more enjoyable. Most of the time I grabbed the stash with my scout and completed without attacking the defenders, but sometimes I did.

    I did not get the same map all the time too, I thought I might but I didn't, was a good mixture. You can still close the search and thus skip opponent without the button being there, I mostly skipped legendary opponents. You can also tell if you're playing a high level player because the influence reward is higher.

    All things considered, I like the update and as a developer myself, I appreciate that the developers are constantly working on the game for us and are always looking for feedback. How many developers change things because people on the forum had a consensus they didn't like it? Not many. So I appreciate the fact that the game is always evolving which keeps people from getting bored.

    Anyway, the main thing is to have fun, don't get fixated or obsessed with leaderboards and stars because then it becomes like a job and not fun, that's how I'd feel anyway :smile:
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  • AmigaAmiga Member Posts: 3,770
    Why matching is created using similar influence instead of Outpost power?
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  • TeeceezyTeeceezy Staff Posts: 3,576
    Attacker damage has been buffed: Read more!
    AmigaAndreaexit_77
  • AmigaAmiga Member Posts: 3,770
    edited September 2016
    Thanks "T"
    So in overall defenders will take 20% more damage?
    "Survivors now deal 10% more damage to defenders and defenders will take 10% more damage from attackers."
    @Teeceezy
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  • BigFellaSteveBigFellaSteve Member Posts: 107
    edited September 2016
    1st raid under the new changes...3 survivors all with 2 hours 25 mins in the hospital

    zero TG claimed!

    I'm loving the new outpost !
    JackBauerexit_77
  • Bloodmoonwolf85Bloodmoonwolf85 Member Posts: 116
    I like that you use influence for tg rewards, my issue, we should be using influence to upgrade our walkers in the pit. not our trade goods.
  • MarsOneMarsOne Member Posts: 65
    edited September 2016
    Even if damage is buffed, the second match I went into had level 17 armored zombies, I cannot even kill one without losing a majority of my hit points.
    How is this in anyway shape or form supposed to be attractive to anyone but top tier players.

    Roll it back and come up with another vodka inspired napkin idea, test it before you subject us to it.
    Thank you for removing my main source of trade goods.
    exit_77
  • MarsOneMarsOne Member Posts: 65
    edited September 2016
    I am pretty agitated with the change right now, but can someone please explain how matchmaker was improved? Where is the balance in favor of the attacker if the first thing I have to do after the first round is heal a bleeding survivor. And that is before I have even moved from the position I spawn in.


    JackBauer
  • Gobold69Gobold69 Member Posts: 80
    I got, via a long wait a legendary as a update. My only one ever, he is a outpost defender

    I stopped spending on the game a while ago and just hung on hoping it wou,d as promised be fairer and improve

    Didn't like the last lot of changes as outpost were useless, hard to find much other than 2 or 3 leg, so struggled hard to keep over 3000, mad that no notifications on raids as well

    Now did my first post update raid!

    Again got higher than me, but managed it! And got more stuff than usual, but 45 min hospital time

    Hate that have no idea who we are up against, loss of choice, can't pass the gate fully charged etc etc, all what everyone else is saying

    Come on NG!! Listen and act quick, I have the money for the game but a, getting seriously bored now
    DeadShot
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