Hero Event

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  • What is the order this time?
  • rgerkmanrgerkman Member Posts: 2,465
    edited September 2016
    nvm

    I had a brain freeze
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  • EL34xyzEL34xyz Member Posts: 1,872
    edited September 2016
    I had better luck with Maggie tokens in the 15 radio calls shown above
    At least I am getting minimum 32 tokens per call while searching for new srvrs which I need to do anyway

    The token cost is not as good overall by collecting tokens via radio calls
    If you break it all down into tg cost per token, it looks like this

    1 radio = 600 tg's in the store
    So a 15 radio call cost = 9000 tg's
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    Token cost by a 15 Radio call
    32 tokens for a rare srvr: 9000 / 32 = 281 tg's per token
    128 tokens for an epic srvr: 9000 / 128 = 70 tg's per token
    256 tokens for a legendary srvr: 9000 / 256 = 35 tg's per token
    That's only if you decide to cash in the srvrs for tokens

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    Token costs in the trade store
    8 tokens cost: 600 / 8 = 75 tg's cost per token
    30 tokens cost: 2500 / 30 = 83 tg's cost per token

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------

    So the trade store is your best bet if all you want is tokens
    Unless you score an Epic or a Legendary srvr on a radio call and decide to cash them in for tokens

    But, you do get radios for free while playing, so radio calls for tokens works out for free if you do not buy radios
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  • Shut_UpShut_Up Member Posts: 2,295
    Maggie Glenn Jesus Abraham Rick Daryl Michonne Carol.

    @Shteevie @Teeceezy Any chance the powers that be at NG can be convinced that the trade shop needs to have the 3 and 5 radio boxes for purchase come come up more often during the hero week event.
    Is there anything bigger than the 5 radio box in the TG shop? I thought I saw one after the update that was more than 5 but I forgot already!
  • hiplnsdrftrhiplnsdrftr Member Posts: 198
    @EL34xyz never seen Stephanie before, I want Stephanie on my team!
    exploiting the loophole loophole
    EL34xyz
  • EL34xyzEL34xyz Member Posts: 1,872
    @hiplnsdrftr
    First time I have seen her also
    But I cashed her in for tokens

  • MadPuppyMadPuppy Member Posts: 2,831
    Just give me a 100.000TG crate with 210 phones and I'll stay up all night getting the TG.
    DLich
  • Rustysmith16Rustysmith16 Member Posts: 48
    WOW im lucky, i just used 70 radio calls and i got
    32-abraham tokens
    128-carol tokens
    8-maggie tokens
    8-jesus tokens
    128-maggie tokens
    8-jesus tokens

    Thank NG!!!!!!!!!
    MizTy
  • TransmuteJunTransmuteJun Member Posts: 2,158
    Teeceezy said:

    The removal of 2 & 8 token drops from 15x calls is permanent, yes.

    Thank you very much! This is wonderful news to hear! While the Hero Calls are still poor value, the alternative 15 radio call is very much improved by eliminating the 2 and 8 token results. I am very happy about this change.
    OneLessTitan1RisEL34xyzMizTy
  • TransmuteJunTransmuteJun Member Posts: 2,158

    40 radios wasted. Not a single Maggie token

    Same here. The 'special' call is still poor value. But the 15 radio call has been much improved, by removing the 2 and 8 token results. I am looking forward to future phone events where I can take advantage of this (just not events that try to force me to use a low quality 10 phone call).
    OneLessTitan
  • AmigaAmiga Member Posts: 3,770
    edited September 2016
    2x10 = 8, 8 Maggie Tokens. Not perfect but at least Maggie tokens as stated ;)
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  • gespuergespuer Member Posts: 1,565
    Why is it such a big secret to tell the player the percentage amount of the increase? Don't know if we then get a clue if it is a good deal or not. But for myself I get the sense of being handled like a dumbly child by telling me only that there is "a better chance of tokens".
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  • ShteevieShteevie Staff Posts: 1,335
    @gespuer
    Our company policy fits the industry standard of keeping our algorithms and databases to ourselves. It allows us more flexibility to fix bugs, alter events for later use, and to stay flexible when planning for future content. Besides, a player who is unwilling to trust us in the statement of "better chance for tokens" isn't going to be swayed by a table of numbers.
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  • OneLessTitanOneLessTitan Member Posts: 1,273
    edited September 2016
    @gespuer

    During the last hero event, our radio collection data had hero tokens dropping at 30% in the special call (we didn't have enough data from each specific hero day to find the increased drop rate for each specific hero.) From 65 regular 5x radio calls, hero tokens dropped at about 10% rate. 15x radio calls dropped hero tokens at 12.7%, so we definitely saw an increase in hero drop frequency from our smaller sample.

    You can check out all the radio call data collection from the history of the game here: https://twdnomansland.wordpress.com/radio-call-drop-rates/

    And we are still collecting data that will be added to that page in the future.
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  • ShteevieShteevie Staff Posts: 1,335
    @Bill_ZRT
    It's different when one is related to an item that is directly for sale [phones]. We know from experience that divulging these numbers doesn't help the success of the event.

    Additionally, it's quite a bit more complicated than a simple percentage increase, and trying to boil it down to averages might be seen as misleading. There is more than one die roll when you make a radio call.
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  • TheLostOnesTheLostOnes Member Posts: 3,032
    @Shteevie even if it's the industry standard, it may not be the best way.

    I firmly believe in transparency as the best way, both when it comes to a video game and with other matters in life.

    It wouldn't remove conspiracy theories here on the forum but it would reduce them.

    That said, it's always better to have events that are immidiately visible. F. ex I always thought the ICELS event had a huge weakness because many people never felt they never got anything (if they had bad RNG luck). A better option would have been to cut the price to 10 radios from 15 and keep the odds unchanged. Then people could see what they get.
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  • StarkhornStarkhorn Member Posts: 68
    40 radio calls (out of a stock of 100) using the special maggie call and I get 2 X 8 maggie tokens. Honestly what is the point of spending so much time trying to get radios when even the increased change of hero tokens hardly makes a dent.
  • Bill_ZRTBill_ZRT Member Posts: 1,421
    Shteevie said:

    @Bill_ZRT
    It's different when one is related to an item that is directly for sale [phones]. We know from experience that divulging these numbers doesn't help the success of the event.

    We might have to agree to disagree here. If the perceived value of the numbers you disclose are too low, then you're absolutely right that it won't help the success of the event. However, if the perceived value of the numbers you disclose is high, then it absolutely will increase the success of the event. This is the goal of every marketing campaign - to present a perceived value that causes an increase in sales (in this case, participation).

    As for your second point - there must be some way to represent the increase in both an accurate and transparent way that will make sense to your players. Without knowing your algorithms (which I'm still not asking for!) I can't make a suggestion here, but there must be a way. Even if it's to disclose just one of the 'numbers'. For example, perhaps you could disclose how much more likely is it that I get a specific hero during this event but leave the number of tokens I may or may not get out of the announcement.

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  • EL34xyzEL34xyz Member Posts: 1,872
    I don't understand why buying in larger quantities in the trade store, the token cost goes up?
    Where does that math ever work out in the real world when buying in larger quantities and bulk?

    1 radio = 600 tg's in the store
    So a 15 radio call cost = 9000 tg's
    ---------------------------------------
    Token cost by a 15 Radio call
    32 tokens for a rare srvr: 9000 / 32 = 281 tg's per token
    128 tokens for an epic srvr: 9000 / 128 = 70 tg's per token
    256 tokens for a legendary srvr: 9000 / 256 = 35 tg's per token
    That's only if you decide to cash in the srvrs for tokens
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Token costs in the trade store
    8 tokens cost: 600 / 8 = 75 tg's cost per token
    30 tokens cost: 2500 / 30 = 83 tg's cost per token
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  • TransmuteJunTransmuteJun Member Posts: 2,158
    Starkhorn said:

    40 radio calls (out of a stock of 100) using the special maggie call and I get 2 X 8 maggie tokens. Honestly what is the point of spending so much time trying to get radios when even the increased change of hero tokens hardly makes a dent.

    You did better than I. Stupidly, I tried 4 Maggie calls (40 radios) and got no Maggie tokens at all. Nothing. I would have been better off doing 8 5-radio calls, or 2+ 15-radio calls, in terms of the tokens I collected.

    I've learned my lesson: stay away from these 10-radio call events.

    That being said, I am very happy that the 15-radio calls have been adjusted to remove 1* and 2* hero results. Thank you, NG!
  • MrSorrowMrSorrow Member Posts: 109
    Amiga said:

    @MrSorrow

    On screen you picked x15 call option. Did you use x10 to get Maggie tokens?

    @Amiga Yep. Did about 4-5 10x calls and was offered 8 Glenn tokens once, 8 Abraham tokens once and rest times got 2 uncommons. After that did couple 15x calls and first call gave me 128 Michonne tokens, couple epics and what you see in that screenshot, I actually even tried again later. Did 2 10x calls no heroes.

    Luck is not on my side it seems.
    I'm going to stay on 15x calls from now on.
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  • hhmcameronhhmcameron Member Posts: 224
    edited September 2016
    I didnt get more maggie, but i got 32 glenn off a 15 radio pull (boosted both traits on my 2 star)

    I was going to call it a win and i accidentally hit another 15 radio pull instead of the x .... and had a come to jesus moment...
    Boosted the first trait too
  • MarsOneMarsOne Member Posts: 65
    Out of 50 radio calls, 4 two star survivors and one 8 star Maggie.
    This games rng hates me.
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  • rgerkmanrgerkman Member Posts: 2,465
    Me too @MarsOne !! Me. Too...
    & I really want Maggie!! :-/

    Fingers & Toes crossed I have better Luck on Glenn & Abraham Days!!!
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