LEvel of Equipment in Crates fell in Scavenging Missions

zeeblackzeeblack Member Posts: 1,221
I am a level 49 player with level 19 survivors.

Before the update, I got level 17 to 20 equipment when I played the scavenging mission.

Post update, I played the scavenging missions and am getting equipment as low as level 16 in the normal mode with 6 gas. With level 19 survivors, the equipment is worthless for me. I have to play the missions at hard level in order to get higher level equipment. I have even installed the optional update, but the problem still exists.

Perhaps @Teeceezy and @Shteevie you should look into it.

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  • AmigaAmiga Member Posts: 3,770
    Did you try hard mode? Gear is usually lvl +2 than on normal
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  • GladiGladi Member Posts: 616
    @Amiga Still pretty useless/obsolete for one with lvl19 survs. And yeah, I found lvl18 leg armor in hard gear scavenge mission, before update, it would be more likely lvl19, but to be honest, formula for leg lvl equip RSL-2 was not working all the time and RSL-3 was also possible.
    zeeblack
  • AmigaAmiga Member Posts: 3,770
    edited October 2016
    I'm collecting every crap on with lvl 18+ to scrap it later with XP booster.
    And yes.. Legendary gear from golden crates mostly are below your lvl ;(
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  • zeeblackzeeblack Member Posts: 1,221
    Amiga said:

    Did you try hard mode? Gear is usually lvl +2 than on normal

    Yep, the hard mode resulted in better equipment. I got an epic level 20 bruiser weapon in the hard mode. But previously, the normal mode yielded RSL +/- 2 equipment. Now I am getting equipment 3 level below my survivor level.

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  • ShteevieShteevie Staff Posts: 1,335
    Gear drops in crates are not necessarily tied to survivor level, so I can see how it might be frustrating for a theory to be proven incorrect. Sounds for you like the hard scavenges are the way to go.
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  • TheLostOnesTheLostOnes Member Posts: 3,032
    @Shteevie I'm a maxed out player and for me the xp and food svavenge mission rewards are exactly the same in normal (level 20 recommended) and in hard mode (l23r).

    Furthermore, the crates at the end of the missions give rewards that are exactly the same for normal and hard (f. ex. I get roughly 4,700 xp in a bronze crate and gear is mostly level 18-19).

    You mentioned earlier an upcoming fix for scavenge mission for maxed players -- is that still the plan? (If so, details, please!). Or was the gas price reduction to 6 from 7 that fix?
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  • InvaderInvader Member Posts: 2,066
    edited October 2016
    Shteevie said:

    Gear drops in crates are not necessarily tied to survivor level, so I can see how it might be frustrating for a theory to be proven incorrect. Sounds for you like the hard scavenges are the way to go.


    But anyway...the crates are too low in hard missions. Get rid of the 1 & 2** crap...please!

    On some maps hospital is very usual and the loot isn´t worth it.

    Rare stuff in gold crates insn´t funny too...

    Plus I still receive the same unusuable weapons and armor constantly on food and xp missions. Thought this issue had a makeover?
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  • OneLessTitanOneLessTitan Member Posts: 1,273
    I started playing some Normal Gear Scavenge missions with my first level 20 Survivor. I got 5 gold tickets: 3 were rare gear, and 2 were Level 20 Epic/Leg.

    It would be really nice if these levels had the Recommended Survivor Level on the display, because isn't that what determines the level of gear drops @Shteevie ?? That's they way it used to be, so that would be a change worth noting and not something we should have to figure out ourselves, like the change to logic that determines the gear level in Trade Good Crates.
    rgerkman
  • ShteevieShteevie Staff Posts: 1,335
    edited October 2016
    @TheLostOnes
    Rec. survivor level is not shown when it is at or below your max survivor level.

    And the maxed players will see better rewards for hard scavenges. That is already live.
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  • EL34xyzEL34xyz Member Posts: 1,872
    edited October 2016
    Gear drops from crates are unusable
    Once in a while I will get epic or legendary gear but it's too low a level

    I can't even remember the last time I got a piece of gear that I could actually use

    I stash the free gear and cash it in for 2 x XP with a booster when I get a bunch of it saved up.

    Most of my gear now comes from 12.5k trade store purchases or gear offers for $$$

    This is exactly what NG wants me to do and so I do it :/
    GrimGaelInvader
  • MadPuppyMadPuppy Member Posts: 2,831
    @EL34xyz So in less then 10 minutes from shtevies post you have already played enough scavenge missions to know there is no change?
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  • InvaderInvader Member Posts: 2,066
    Shteevie said:

    And the maxed players will see better rewards for hard scavenges. That is already live.


    What´s about the nearly maxed out players?

    Camp level 54 and level 19 survivors?
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  • JayZJayZ Member Posts: 3,716
    @Invader I'm in a similar boat to you. Camp level 55 and level 19 survivors. 95% of what I get from the "Hard" gear scavenge missions is crap. However, in maybe 5-10% of my gold crates, I get epic or legendary gear base level 19 gear. Now, the traits are usually crap, but at least I know that level-appropriate rare/epic items exist. (Note: these observations are from the 1 minute gas weekend, prior to any fixes that @Shteevie mentioned).

    Someone posted this several days ago, but it feels like the drop rate for epic gear has SIGNIFICANTLY decreased. Many drops where I previously got epic gear all seems to be useless rare gear.
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  • JayZJayZ Member Posts: 3,716
    @Shteevie What do you mean by better rewards? Do you mean the XP/supply reward that you get for finishing the mission, or are you referring to better crate unlock rewards, or both?
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  • EL34xyzEL34xyz Member Posts: 1,872
    edited October 2016
    MadPuppy said:

    @EL34xyz So in less then 10 minutes from shtevies post you have already played enough scavenge missions to know there is no change?

    @MadPuppy
    Mine was not a scavenge mission. I got that awesome level 4 weapon after a challenge mission
    also, I am not a maxed player. Camp level 49, srvrs are all level 17
    Not sure it makes a difference?
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  • PoppyPoppy Member Posts: 1,146
    Give me until early next week im running an experiment.
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  • MadPuppyMadPuppy Member Posts: 2,831
    I think it does @EL34xyz
    Shteevie is explicitly talking about max level players.

    And LOL at the challenge mission. I get epic and legendary gear at level 2 or 4 and such every single challenge. Hilarious if frustrating.
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  • EL34xyzEL34xyz Member Posts: 1,872
    MadPuppy said:

    I think it does @EL34xyz

    Shteevie is explicitly talking about max level players.



    And LOL at the challenge mission. I get epic and legendary gear at level 2 or 4 and such every single challenge. Hilarious if frustrating.

    It's still silly to receive gear that is not any where near the level of your srvrs
    If NG can base XP levels on srvr level then gear levels in crates could be changed also
    MadPuppySurvivor420
  • ShteevieShteevie Staff Posts: 1,335
    Part of the reason I'm itching to get to the challenge rework is because it would remove these trivial levels from the process, and thus the negligible gear rewards as well. It's all in the works, we just need to put in the time and effort to bring it to you.
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  • General_QuatreGeneral_Quatre Member Posts: 990
    @Shteevie While you're here...can you confirm if crate drops from Hard Scavenge Missions has increased along with main reward?
  • blynknzblynknz Member Posts: 1,988
    Shteevie said:

    Part of the reason I'm itching to get to the challenge rework is because it would remove these trivial levels from the process, and thus the negligible gear rewards as well. It's all in the works, we just need to put in the time and effort to bring it to you.

    For the love of god. Please consult your player base before you make any decisions.
    InvaderWallStreet
  • blynknzblynknz Member Posts: 1,988
    zeeblack said:

    I am a level 49 player with level 19 survivors.

    Before the update, I got level 17 to 20 equipment when I played the scavenging mission.

    Post update, I played the scavenging missions and am getting equipment as low as level 16 in the normal mode with 6 gas. With level 19 survivors, the equipment is worthless for me. I have to play the missions at hard level in order to get higher level equipment. I have even installed the optional update, but the problem still exists.

    Perhaps @Teeceezy and @Shteevie you should look into it.

    @zeeblack, yeah the Normal mission is the same as 1 level below from Pre 2.2 (for Supply missions)

    So pre 2.2 I was getting 9700 mission reward, and normal crates where giving me about 4100
    Then I leveled up, and I was getting 10000 mission reward and crates with giving me 5000+

    Now in 2.2, normal has dropped back down to 9700 & 4100 in crates
    And hard is the larger value.

    So in effect they haven't given us a chance to get better things, they have actually made it harder for us to get the same things.
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  • DreadzDreadz Member Posts: 42
    I've been playing the game for 5 mins compared to some of you (lvl36/15) but I can't remember the last time I got anything exciting from scavenger mission crates. If anything epic comes out its a real surprise but generally useless due to lvl, and dropped 15k on leg crates one eve only to get 2 pieces of bruiser gear which to me are as good as useless!!
    TheSittingDuck
  • GrimGaelGrimGael Member Posts: 1,410
    Gear seems to be a bit more on line in the past couple of days. I'm cautiously optimistic (lvl 55 going 56 in 1 day 10 hrs) you will have more swords, assault armor, and bruiser gear than you will know what to do with, and a shortage of rifles if your distribution matches mine. But the level problem seems a bit better on hard gear scavenger now.
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  • TheSittingDuckTheSittingDuck Member Posts: 208
    Shteevie said:

    Part of the reason I'm itching to get to the challenge rework is because it would remove these trivial levels from the process, and thus the negligible gear rewards as well. It's all in the works, we just need to put in the time and effort to bring it to you.

    I'm sorry, but if ya REALLY wanted to change rewards you would do that already, you lazy asses :p
    It's an easy fix, all is need to be done is to tie level of gear/xp/toms with player level like in scavenge missions. No more and no less.
    JayZ said:

    Someone posted this several days ago, but it feels like the drop rate for epic gear has SIGNIFICANTLY decreased. Many drops where I previously got epic gear all seems to be useless rare gear.

    It was me, it was me! :D
    Thanks for reminding, this should be also fixed ASAP.
  • JadenJaden Member Posts: 3,067
    edited October 2016
    Most frustrating thing is that I get at least one piece of legendary and one piece of epic gear each challenge - mostly level 4 - 6.

    Haven't even had an epic piece of level appropriate gear in my crates for weeks, if not months.

    It's so sad to get that gorgeous gold weapon with fantastic traits and it's level 4...
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  • TransmuteJunTransmuteJun Member Posts: 2,171
    Check out this beauty I got from the challenge a little while ago!


    TheSittingDuckMizTy
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