Negan - Hero?
rustynail
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Why on earth is Negan a Hero?
In comic, on show he is all Villain. Maybe make a villain walker of him instead and I can put him in my pit where he belongs.
In comic, on show he is all Villain. Maybe make a villain walker of him instead and I can put him in my pit where he belongs.
Smooth but strong and on the rocks.
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In any case, Negan is a wildly popular character, regardless of being a bad guy.
Rufus isn't even anywhere on the show, or comic, or anywhere else in TWD universe, but still he's a "hero".
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Furthermore, keep it decent in here.
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I'm a fan of the of the show. And I'm aware of Negans position as a character in the story. But that doesn't justify the fact that he's practically 'forced' into my team (and again, as stated before by others, don't tell me to just toss him into my outpost and stop caring). Don't get me wrong, on a level of character complexity he's of a high level standard in the TWD universe. Perhaps even the 'hero' qualitification he's been give in the game.
But this hero is not allround fan-friendly. It's one thing to watch a character abuse the main cast and his 'wives' on screen, it's another thing to have this kind of person fighting for you in game. He should be an option, not mandatory. (Because I am sure lots of people love his character and should be able to use him).
I woud really like the option to toss heroes I do not want for tokens (in general, but especially for Negan). Or at least just have him under my hero-tab and not in my lovely Bruiser section.
EDIT: Did NG even consider this character to come with a trigger warning?
Edit: Politics.
Excuses me, I don't want to take this to the next level. But seemingly few people at the forums don't seem to mind this? Or are Afraid to speak out because this is a well build character from a writers perspective
Equating the results of the US presidential election with the introduction of a character in this game is really reaching, imo.
The fact that you don't get a lot of support on this topic should tell you that apparently most people really are ok with one of THE most popular and central figures of the show being in the game. No one forces you to use him, and as long as the TV show doesn't come with a specific "Negan is evil" warning, I don't see any reason why the game should be any different.
Whatever you mean with "taking it to the next level", please do keep it civil. Unlike in the game or the TV show, here on the forum we prefer people don't shoot each others' brains out over a disagreement.
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It's civil when people have an option to disagree.
Dufus, on the other hand............
However, just because he uses the word "consent" doesn't mean he's actually getting consent. It's "consent" coerced with violence and the threat of violence. That character is without a doubt a sexual predator, in addition to his other immoral acts.
Personally, Negan's presence doesn't upset or offend me. He's just another bruiser to me, like Glenn is just another scout and Darryl is just another hunter, albeit with special traits. So NG hasn't offended or upset me personally.
However, if even just one or two people are this bothered, they should not be told to relax, or be ridiculed, or be silenced. I think we often forget that at least 25% of the population was sexually abused before the age of 18. Add in victimisation as an adult, and where are we? Nearly 50% of the population traumatised this kind of way? More than 50%?
Putting this character on people's teams as a near-necessary result of completing game content was a mistake. As an enemy to kill? Maybe; that's his role in the show, too, and it's reasonably safe to assume anyone playing the game is also enjoying the show.
I don't presume to know why any particular people here are objecting to Negan on their teams. But I do know that somewhere around 50% of the people using this forum have likely been sexually abused in their lifetimes. Survivors of such abuse don't need to be told whether they're being reasonable when they experience re-lived trauma. They don't need to be silenced or urged to relax. They need to be respected.
I had a nervous breakdown almost two years ago due to vicarious trauma, as it were. I was in a position to help a fair number of people who had suffered sexual abuse. Just helping them--not experiencing it myself, but just witnessing their pain--drove me into deep depression and anxiety. I'll never underestimate the pain (and the strength!) of trauma survivors again.
I think whether you agree that Negan on the team is a problem or not, you can grow up and respect people for whom it is a problem. I also think NG would be well advised to come up with a fix of some kind for this, allowing people to remove Negan from their game if they wish, if for no other reason than because NG respects its customers, even and especially those who are survivors of abuse.
My apologies to everyone who expects the old Pig to be a clown in every post.
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For those players who really don't like Negan or perhaps other 'Heroes' the option to delete them would be a nice addition.
And that's the bottom line, cause NG said so.
Their egos would make them kill each other.
Also, from an NG standpoint, the ability to retire heroes is _very_ unlikely to be added. As all of you know, retired survivors are gone forever, meaning they can't be brought back by support, myself or even Shteevie. That being said, imagine the amount of accidentally retired heroes if there was a button to push.