New 2.0 challenge is still a boring grind

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  • blynknzblynknz Member Posts: 1,988
    Definitely on your page @EL34xyz .

    They are dazzling us with rewards & stars (Lots of people in my guild are amazed they hit 500, where I have told them that they should be getting about 650+)

    But the time consuming grind is still there
    Invader
  • nickc25nickc25 Member Posts: 309
    Amiga said:

    EL34xyz said:

    Amiga said:

    Which mmorg game isn't a unlimited grind?? Play lineage 2 or WoW :)
    This is more simple game but mechanics is the same.
    If you will not repeat 3 times then what you will do for next few days ?

    LOL, or maybe there is something outside that is way more fun do do?

    You mean real life?????? Is it still exist?

    BTW
    I see most of us forgot the pain doing first RSL 2-15 in old challenge.... :s
    Playing a game is "real life" :wink:
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  • NCDawgFanNCDawgFan Member Posts: 2,070
    Where are you located @EL34xyz ? Asheville, Boone, Blowing Rock, Banner Elk? We are east of the Charlotte area and love the NC mountains.
  • dhusagardhusagar Member Posts: 36
    Amiga said:

    I was never so knackered before like now.. This challenge was really challenging. I played till today. In old challenge I finished mostly 2 days earlier.

    I agree - the game is now about who can put the most time in. For those of us that work, I don't think it's going to be possible to max out?
  • AmigaAmiga Member Posts: 3,770
    edited February 2017
    I hit my max easily but I've used every single gas..so yes it is time consuming more than earlier. But more time = better rewards. My time is rewarded pretty good...
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  • dhusagardhusagar Member Posts: 36
    Amiga said:

    I hit my max easily but I've used every single gas..so yes it is time consuming more than earlier. But more time = better rewards. My time is rewarded pretty good...

    Well, I could grind out 2x 1 stars on 26.4, to get the extra 26 stars, but I reckon it will take me a couple of hours and a few hundred gold (based on getting stars on 26.4 so far).

    Whilst I have the gold, I no longer have the time (at work now :s )
  • EL34xyzEL34xyz Member Posts: 1,872
    edited February 2017
    NCDawgFan said:

    Where are you located @EL34xyz ? Asheville, Boone, Blowing Rock, Banner Elk? We are east of the Charlotte area and love the NC mountains.

    Pisgah Forest, NC, Mountain bike mecca :)
    30 minutes west of Asheville, right outside the entrance to Pisgah National Forest
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  • SabrinaSabrina Member Posts: 139
    edited February 2017
    I totally agree w @Disalive.

    After playing 1,5 years starting from the first release and kept my 2nd position in top player list in Finland and after the first Challenge 2.0 I decided to keep my time and money from the game and going to occasional casual player without paying :)

    Nice that so many are happy w Challenge 2.0. But in the POV of lv20 characters player, it is even more time-consuming and dull grinding than previous 1.0. 1-hour cool down does not help at all. Now to me it is impossible to find anymore enough time slots IRL - or reasons to pay for time game. Two experiments of removing cooldown were great but NG decided and try to lockdown players even deeper how they use their time.

    NG does not want change the only point of the game: grinding and paying of it. There are several modern techniques to generate missions by algorithm (like in Boom Beach), use player-build PvP (like in Compass Point West of NG), scale automatically missions individually and so on.

    I dont remember who defined this tactic and business model as "chew and swallow". I want to eat some fresh and variant :smile:

    Have a happy grinding :wink:
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  • KaLiKaLi Member Posts: 426
    edited February 2017
    Yeah just finish at 1.1k stars. Could have push for more as things just interesting and challenging. However by the time I got there I was already burnt out from grinding out that 1k star just to make it "challenging. Was also dissapointed in the rewards at this high in stars.

    I love 90% of the new rework... Just something may need to be done about that 3x grind... Or at least start it +3 your level or something...
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  • UFGatorUFGator Member Posts: 13
    Tip my hat to JVC_TWD (DTPx2) and Nicolas (DTP) for your challenge scores this week. JVC_TWD finished with 1309 stars and Nicolas finished with 1304 stars . I finished with 1282 and would have had an additional 28 stars if I could just get past the double trouble mission on the last quarter of level 27. Couldn't do it though. Tried every combination of survivor. Pretty tough when you have to kill to level 28 tanks and then two more tanks spawn… LOL!
    Anyway, big props to both of you. Would love to know how you got past that one.
    KaLiInvader
  • EL34xyzEL34xyz Member Posts: 1,872
    KaLi said:

    Yeah just finish at 1.1k stars. Could have push for more as things just interesting and challenging. However by the time I got there I was already burnt out from grinding out that 1k star just to make it "challenging. Was also dissapointed in the rewards at this high in stars.



    I love 90% of the new rework... Just something may need to be done about that 3x grind... Or at least start it +3 your level or something...

    That's a sad reward indeed
  • UFGatorUFGator Member Posts: 13
    COMPLETELY AGREE BigRich! Rewards started out very good and made me optimistic about the update. Then the progression stalled, leaving me with the 'wtf' thought as I grinded it out level after level after level. Even the crates maxxed out at 1000 per.

    I will still push to get maximum stars (for my guild) but they need to do something about the higher level payouts... like they said was going to happen when announcing the update
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  • AnielAniel Member Posts: 96
    edited February 2017
    I love the changes, but it takes too much to reach an high level of RSL which makes it challenging.

    It takes too much of your time and on the long run it will not fix the main reason veteran quit the game: REPETITIVE.

    Complete three times each scenario to level up? It's too much, it should take two times.

    Token rewards are disappointing, I am fine with 10-20 hero token, they feel rewarding, but around 650 stars I had around 15 assault tokens... seriously?
    EL34xyzKaLi
  • PapacasPapacas Member Posts: 416
    Well for me the new look challenges are still a grind. A grind with better rewards and less low level missions but still a grind. Good thing i love the grinding pain. I have countless, thousands of accumulated Diablo series hours (yes, since D1, i am that old), so i have to love the pain, right? So still playing NML and D3 hehe
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  • WahooDawgWahooDawg Member Posts: 449
    Yeah, but one of the best things about Diablo was the high volume of good loot! The lack of decent gear drops in this game is getting really old.
    JadenEL34xyz
  • EL34xyzEL34xyz Member Posts: 1,872
    WahooDawg said:

    Yeah, but one of the best things about Diablo was the high volume of good loot! The lack of decent gear drops in this game is getting really old.

    Not only the lack of good free gear drops but NG jacked the prices up of gear in the store by at least $5 US in the last couple months
  • ArnettejjArnettejj Member Posts: 40
    After playing for about a year, I quit for good on Saturday of the first new challenge. I found the new setup to be extremely boring. They got rid of the low level, but kept the grind in full force.
    I really thought that how far you can get in the challenges should be based on how good a player you are, and how good your survivors and gear are. Instead, it is based almost completely on how much of your life you are willing to let this game suck away from you. Why should it be that you have to put hours into playing the same 6 missions repeatedly just to get to a level that is even moderately challenging? Why is there a need to replay the same rsl 3 times in a row? We all know that the answer is to not reduce the amount of boosters sold.
    I got really bored with the grind, and realized that NG isn't likely to make any substantial changes that make the game exciting again. For those reasons I will find more productive things to do with my time than grind away at challenges.
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  • HelioHelio Member Posts: 522
    I think NG has a difficult problem on their hands... how do you keep people interested without the grind?

    1) Farming tomatoes and xp is quite repetitive but ppl do it in order to progress... so the grind is ok.
    2) Outposts is also repetitive but again since it's for TG's... I'm still ok with the grind...

    So now we have challenges... and NG simply kept the same formula of repetition... but in this case... you don't really get anything out of it that you can't get from 1 and 2 from above (except for the chance of hero tokens).

    What people want is a challenge and not more grinding... but it seems almost impossible to make a challenge last 3-4 days without grinding...

    So my only possible "fixes"
    1) Add an auto fight button... the AI plays for you, you get 3* for ez levels and use up your gas...
    2) Put class restrictions on the missions... ex: you can only use warriors / bruisers

    But unless someone comes up with some novel idea, I don't see how we will escape the repetition in challenges...



  • JVC_TWDJVC_TWD Member Posts: 496
    @UFGator just seen this, but that mission was repeatable. I needed 1 more mission on the 3rd round of RSL 27 to get to RSL 28. I ran out of time :( lol
    KaLi
  • Tapatio75Tapatio75 Member Posts: 636
    edited February 2017
    Fatties is next, so more of the same and harder to continue. Last challenge I got to lvl 25 I think, this one I stopped at 24 so I wouldnt waste time in the hospital
  • R2runfastR2runfast Member Posts: 332
    Just add some grenaders ;)
    Tapatio75
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