Why raise training cost by 40% ?
Prokktor
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It takes 190k to upgrade my survivors from 12 to level 13 now... before the patch it was around 130k...
Why was this not in the Patchnotes?
Or is it a bug?
Why was this not in the Patchnotes?
Or is it a bug?
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Yesterday it was 473k for 5*...today...everyone is 533k.
Yo. This better be a bug.
How can I unread your post ? Stab tooth picks into my ears. Lol
I remember people asking back then what the deal was and the response was something like "It'll be fixed in the future, enjoy it til then."
Seems as if "then" is "now." And there's no rewinding back to "then."
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Sorry no clue what you are talking about but JayZ mmisunderstood my post but this has been resolved.
@Dodkong
Seems you did not read much here either: The cost went up from before patch to after patch by a sizable amount. This has nothing to do with small cost differences caused by character rarity/quality/stars/whatever. (I think that is what you mean by Token System, if not please correct me)
Granted, I made a mistake of not tagging the person I was responding to, which in this case, wasn't you, seeing as how my response had nothing to do with your question.
So, my apologies for that mistake.
But, if you are attempting to get an official response, rather than other forum go'ers just chiming in with speculation, you should tag @Teeceezy and/or @Shteevie. So I hope that helps with your mistake.
"Death is lighter than a feather. Duty, heavier than a mountain." - al'Lan Mandragoran, The Great Hunt, The Wheel of Time
Jump forward to 2.0 and beyond, when characters can go from 1-20, with no maximum number of trainings. Now, each of those tables were extended to allow the characters to get to the max level. It's still different amounts for survivors to level up based on when you get them, but now there's no good reason for it.
In planning levels beyond 20 in 2.5, we decided to condense all those tables to a single chart, so all survivors will cost the same amount to go from level 20 to level 21, no matter if they were new at level 1 or level 10. We did some math, and picked a set of values that was between the minimum and maximum costs that already existed in the game. Therefore, almost everyone will have seen changes to these costs, but it is not completely fair for everyone, and the system is far more predictable. Furthermore, since the rewards have changed so much since the 2.0 change, we have more confidence that any amount of XP we give as a reward is actually meaningful for you when you get it.
For the record, we found a bunch of other unforeseen issues that are beneficial to players, but since people count themselves lucky and not aggrieved when those kinds of bugs happen, you see fewer reports of them on the forums. There's no conspiracy here against the players - just a quest for fairness and simplicity where we can improve those things, and an effort to fix every bug we find to bring the game closer to the intended experience we want our players to enjoy.
Please note: Development is a fluid process, and suggestions and implementation take time and iteration. Any discussion of future features, deadlines, updates, balance changes, and such should be considered prospective and subject to change.
More importantly, thank you for confirming the changes were intended. I can now go back to upgrading my survivors knowing that I'm not being mistakenly overcharged (just being knowingly overcharged
Why wasn't this info on the 2.5 notes? Can we update the 2.5 notes to include "Survivor upgrades now cost more than before" so that people can stop wondering...
Also, were the survivor retire values adjusted accordingly?
Edit: I see that this was in fact updated on the known issues post... which is nice...
> [XP is] still different amounts for survivors to level up based on when you get them...
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> THANK YOU! Now we can finally dispel any rumors that the XP differences had anything to with rarity level and was only based on survivor initial level! Although now it no longer matters since it was changed with this update anyhow. #irrelevantvindication
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> More importantly, thank you for confirming the changes were intended. I can now go back to upgrading my survivors knowing that I'm not being mistakenly overcharged (just being knowingly overcharged
@TJCart technically back in the days rarity level and survivor initial level were linked. Higher the rarity, lower the initial level. Also there was a link between initial level, rarity and the maximum level.
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Tell us straight up that this is happening. It would stop us all coming here wondering what is happening, and I believe now people will be more annoyed than if you told us at the start.
I now see why TCZ doesn't post a more comprehensive list of the updates. It also looks like your company doesn't talk amongst yourselves. TCZ is saying its unintended and will look into it, and suddenly shteevie pops in and says it was the intention all along.
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My guess is the people making changes and the people answering to the questions/concerns/complaints are not all in the same loop. Reminds me of when I worked as an insurance agent/CSR for a large American company with a gecko mascot.
I think I took a lot of calls from people in the same mindset as the hardcore NML players.
You get a lot of redundant complaints, angry people and misunderstandings, and most can be resolved with communication or needed fixes that are clear.
Sometimes you get people who complain no matter what.
And sometimes something is just plain messed up and you can see it but you can't get any supervisor to acknowlege the wonkiness let alone explain why, so you're left on your own to tell the customer why something out of your control is right, or good, or intended or necessary for balance.
I'm glad I don't have to take rate increase calls anymore...