How lenient should i be to guild members?

marie1980 · June 2017

In my guild i have some great players but some are not even hitting the minimum stars i have asked for,I will kick out inactive members but should I give low scorers another chance,just need some advice,don't want to come across to hard but also I don't want to be a push over.

Pic · June 2017

Take a guild vote, or 3 x out

DLich · June 2017

Things happen. Life gets in the way. But communication is key.

If players aren't able to hit a minumum a week they should alert you in advance but even then if they didn't alert you and they didn't hit it then talk with them so they understand the importance of meeting the minumum for guild fairness.

If the minimums are posted then they know what's expected of them. If they don't meet it week 1 then tell them you hope all is ok and if they can meet it week 2. If they say yes then don't meet it giving a 3rd chance is up to you.

If you know before hand that a certain week they can't meet it then that's fine. But after you've received commitment that week 2 would be different and it's not then they should expect a boot.

Your relationship with your guild members vary. But it's important that everyone knows what to expect from everyone else.

3 weeks in a row with no explanation warrants a boot IMO

EL34xyz · June 2017

We give members that fail to meet the minimum a warning first

We also tell them that we would like a heads up via chat way in advance if there is some sort of issue where they can't make the minimum
That is taken into account and does not count against anyone

We also recognize that this is just a silly game.
No one makes a living playing this game
People have lives and family that get in the way of playing games

So in the end, it's just a game and real life comes first

marie1980 · June 2017

Thank you,very helpful, appreciate it.

WahooDawg · June 2017

I say rule with an iron fist...I mean boot!

gespuer · June 2017

In addition to all well said already.
We communicate the weekly minimum in our guild description and inform every new member about it.
Each member gets the following info additional:

"If real life matter (job, vacation, etc.) will prevent you from gathering the minimum, please write here a pre-info. For not reaching the minimum without pre-info, you'll receive a yellow card (like in soccer), which will be active for 6 weeks. 2nd card or 14 days inactivity will end up in banishment.
We're pleased to be reinforced by you. Good luck and enjoy it here."

That's working really good.

Cheers

zeeblack · June 2017

Its just a game, enjoy it

GrimGael · June 2017

If there's a posted minimum and someone applies to join, they are saying that they will make the minimum. That would be strike one there if they don't. What you do from there is up to you, and depends on how you envision the direction you want in the guild.

Shut_Up · June 2017

Well it could be NG's fault for sucking the fun out of the game and offering little motivation to keep playing since they can't fix bugs and upgrades end up causing you more harm than good so I would be lenient and ask for better communication from members.

MediMan · June 2017

When I joined my guild originally they were pretty lenient but people kept taking advantage of it. Every week there would be several members that wouldn't make the cut. So they changed it to a zero tolerance policy. Now if you have something come up and let people know then its no problem. But if you don't communicate and do not make the minimum required you are kicked immediately at the challenges end.

dungeonmaster201 · June 2017

I generally give no kindness to new members but for people that have been with the guild for a while, the more overall stars that they have the more leeway I'm willing to give them.

sbf · June 2017

Let's ask Jeffrey Dean Morgan what he would do if someone broke the rules. Do we really want to live in a society where breaking the rules is acceptable?

Mabiki · June 2017

sbf said:
Let's ask Jeffrey Dean Morgan what he would do if someone broke the rules. Do we really want to live in a society where breaking the rules is acceptable?

Or ask John Goodman...

xbamfx · June 2017

Give em the iron.......negan style

Akartiki · June 2017

What @DLich said.

Remember, many players are frustrated now, and may not want to play as much. What you do with that is your call.

Trae · June 2017

Well if you want to boot players go right ahead. More thrown out to wander alone in no man's land means more looking for guilds which means more players for the rest of us lol

FeloniousSpunk · June 2017

> @Mabiki said:
> Let's ask Jeffrey Dean Morgan what he would do if someone broke the rules. Do we really want to live in a society where breaking the rules is acceptable?
>
> Or ask John Goodman...

I didn't watch my buddies die face down in the muck so this strumpet could ignore his star quota!!

buchizombiebreath · June 2017

you can see if the player is active or not, so i dont see a problem in this! every serius player will tell you when he is busy in RL, when he isnt active in chat and in game then kick, nobody wants surfer in his guild!
when he was always active and maybe.lost his phone you will automaticly wait one or two weeks before you kick him cause a guild is like a family with daily contact with my friends!

JayZ · June 2017

Better to have low scoring guild members than no guild members. It's such a pain in the ass to recruit, so unless your guild is completely full and you can afford to kick 1-2 people out to recruit higher scorers, I would err on the side of being chill about it.

Jaden · June 2017

Problem I see with players scoring lower than the minimum is that it's bad for the overall morale. No one wants to have to do the work for the others.

It's extremely frustrating if you are a few stars away from the next reward because some didn't pull their weight.

I think my guild (mostly) agrees that we would rather have 18 players that work together than 20 with 2 doing (almost) nothing. Even if they get some stars, it still feels bad...

Movado · June 2017

Good observational point, @Jaden . What I find fascinating is people focus so much on leniency towards the under-performers. But there's a flip-side to that coin. If minimums aren't enforced, then a guild risks losing its top performers who may grow frustrated at carrying the non-performers. It's a difficult dilemma often shaped by how competitive the leadership envisions their guild to be while trying to maintain solidarity. Guild leaders have a tough job and I respect all leaders trying to manage a guild. But hypothetically-speaking, I, too, would prefer a guild of only 18 players who actively contribute, rather than a full guild with some dead weights that get to loiter around without consequence.

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