Special Challenge Event Preview - 'Ultimate Challenge' Event



  • TJSTJS Member Posts: 4,501
    > @marie1980 said:
    > Not everyone uses the forum,would have been a good idea to have a vote on the actual game itself, just an idea .

    NG never held a vote anywhere.
    The vote (Poll) thread my mine, not NG's. I created it to help gain more feedback mainly to help players make a more informed opinion.

    The forum is a way for NG to gain feedback from players and all players are welcome to join the forum and provide feedback.

    The forum is the best place for players to be more informed about the game, therefore the best way for NG to gain good feedback from informed players.

    Nevertheless, the Ultimate Challenge System was run for 1 week to gain feedback and I believe 'ALL' that feedback will be useful for NG to improve the game.
    TJS  -  Member of W-S
    Nation Wars 🇦🇺 Australian Team Captain
  • JerryDixonJerryDixon Member Posts: 387
    Disappointing that this isn't permanent...unless it will be tweaked and released with 2.9.

    The old way is massive grind and much less fun.
    Jerry Dixon
  • capibaracapibara Member Posts: 7,147
    Yes yes, we all agree ...but..for what reason we can't go on this challenge?? It will be a really big cooldown switching back to the old challenge... :/
    "Always be yourself unless you can be a capybara. Then always be a capybara".
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  • JayZJayZ Member Posts: 3,742
    Just as a suggestion, IF we have to return to a normal challenge next week, maybe in the short term, NG can reduce challenge mission gas costs so we can get through the early missions more quickly at least :wink:
    Proud member of Mavericks OG, a top 3 global GW and challenge guild.
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  • pradipradi Member Posts: 652
    No Need that old too much grind again. Please......
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  • _Lily__Lily_ Member Posts: 723
    https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/PHDVHDW found this in some facebook group
  • capibaracapibara Member Posts: 7,147
    I'm not going to play next challenge...
    "Always be yourself unless you can be a capybara. Then always be a capybara".
    --> Do you need a guild? ...send me a Private Message. LINE ID: capyrodent - My Recruiting den and my "Art Objects" in the Next Games Collection.
  • MurdoqueMurdoque Member Posts: 67
    edited December 2017

    Well it took a lot to bring me out of lurker paradise, but I just had to show my reaction to finding myself back in the horrible slog...
  • NidintuBelNidintuBel Member Posts: 16
    Very very dissapointed that you go back to the old format NG.
  • PutchucoPutchuco Member Posts: 1,289
    Here’s the current poll we did at RickRollers/Ultima Legione:

    Not super representative, but I think it indicates that most of us like the new format and would like it to stay.
    If you would like to join a drama-free and fun group of enthusiasts,
    contact us via email at [email protected]
  • marie1980marie1980 Member Posts: 182
    It is only fair when every player gets to vote not just players on the forum
  • TJSTJS Member Posts: 4,501
    edited December 2017
    > @marie1980 said:
    > It is only fair when every player gets to vote not just players on the forum

    What vote do you keep talking about?

    *edit to add

    There has NOT been any official vote on this challenge format. Any voting or poles you've seen are conducted by players or guilds.
    TJS  -  Member of W-S
    Nation Wars 🇦🇺 Australian Team Captain
  • marie1980marie1980 Member Posts: 182
    Thats what I mean,there is voting on the forum but there needs to be an official vote on the game so everyone has a chance to have a say
  • TJSTJS Member Posts: 4,501

    Fair enough. Sounds wonderful but unlikely.

    Just so you are aware,
    I don't believe any changes that have happened in the game have ever been as a result of voting in forum.

    The only Official voting in game was for a few weekend events & weapon for Rufus from memory.

    Anyway, in reading some of your comments you appear not to have liked this weeks challenge. If you haven't read, the challenge is going back to the old system next challenge so you have nothing to worry about. ;)
    TJS  -  Member of W-S
    Nation Wars 🇦🇺 Australian Team Captain
  • PandreqPandreq Member Posts: 244
    Firstly thanks for the quick answer @Fearofabotplanet to my earlier question. I really hope that you are collating feedback and looking to incorporate something very close to this challenge format, and very soon. Going back to the grind is going to feel terrible after this week.
    The problem I have with the current format is linked to the guild - namely that the challenge is the only thing that “contributes” to guild performance. The only thing you can do with/for your guild is get stars, the other game modes are irrelevant. Consequently, unless I get as many stars as I can (for me 1400-1500 average) I feel like I’m letting them down. For me, that means spending all of my free time grinding through boring easy levels. I run out of time without a gas event. I spend two days, between challenges, watching ads and saving gas, and 5 days using that gas playing easy levels. So I personally do not get much enjoyment from it - for a while I have been playing out of a sense of duty to the guild, and in the hope you would make changes to address the issues raised by so many here on this forum.
    Then along came the ultimate challenge, which got rid of so much grind, I actually got to the point where I was truly challenged - and it was great, reminded me of why I fell in love with this game. Then I was stuck, couldn’t progress further - so I played some other game modes, did a few outposts. It got me playing the whole game. Before, on the rare occasions I got to this point, I started saving gas, but this week I was thinking it was not as important, due to reduced gas requirements to play the challenge.
    We have lost two long-standing players from our guild recently through boredom with the game. I thought the ultimate challenge was going to help prevent others leaving - we really need some reassurance that you guys are going to address this quickly otherwise I’m sure that more will leave the game.
  • marie1980marie1980 Member Posts: 182
    I like you're comment about the only thing you can do as a guild is to get stars in challenge, I think it would be great to do more as a guild some how ,maybe something could be added to the distance .
  • sbfsbf Member Posts: 466
    edited December 2017
    Just a thought here about next week's challenge... We were told the ultimate challenge would just be for one week so NG could get data and feedback. With 2.9 dropping real soon (after next week's challenge, yeah?), it's possible that the challenge structure will be tweaked/changed. That said, this challenge structure should DEFINITELY made permanent. The weeks after an update are high time for folks quitting and I hope NG is able to communicate to those whose only gripe with this structure is star count that EVERYTHING IS PROPORTIONAL AND GETTING LESS STARS IS NOT WORSE WHEN IT IS THE RESULT OF A DIFFERENT SYSTEM. Players will quit if the challenge structure is not changed because of endless grind of boredom pointing and clicking. Players will not quit if the new structure is implemented and players are informed and communicated to by NG and their guild leaders/elders that under a different system, things will be different, not worse.

    Yes, this means that you will need to wipe your personal bests away and start fresh. Trust me, this is perfectly okay. The goal should be to get to a higher difficulty than you have reached before with fewer dropped stars than before. If I got 3000 stars under a system that started at rsl2 and 500 stars that started at rsl25, I would be looking at the difficulty that my team got to and the amount of stars dropped as an indication that I am improving in strategy and strength of my survivors.

    If you are worried about star count, please think outside of the box of the challenge structure. Guild minimums would change if the new structure were to be implemented and this is okay.

  • CarlyCarly Member Posts: 3,101
    Although I am still playing the challenge, I feel now I can weigh-in with feedback on my playing experience on the ultimate challenge. And under the non-ultimate challenge I would play on Sunday too. So I am not finishing any faster under the ultimate challenge.

    My Likes: the double guild rewards and more tokens. round passes earned sooner. Starting at higher level. Never received legendary gear in the challenge crates so I can’t comment on that.

    My Dislikes: Starting at higher level. Under the non-ultimate format, I could have more rounds to earn supplies. And to say solution is to do scavenge missions is not really a solution for me. Scavenge is 6 gas, challenge is 5 gas, distance is 4 gas and I do not purchase gas boosters.

    What I would like to see: I feel NML is not f2p friendly. The challenge in both non-ultimate and ultimate start at 4 gas, then jump to 5 gas. It would be more enjoyable to me for the gas hike to go away with in challenges and remain at 4 gas throughout. Perhaps I could finish sooner instead of waiting for 5 gas for maps? It would be nice if the issue of supplies were re-addressed for those not maxed and still upgrading camps without being told “do scavenge mission for supplies.”

  • Pain WalkerPain Walker Content Creator Posts: 2,647
    edited December 2017
    Pain Walker Philosophy

    Every change NG does is for the better

    This is a bad change for the better @Fearofabotplanet

    Probably making a video!

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  • SleeperyJeemSleeperyJeem Member Posts: 113
    Sigh. Well one good thing is l have one more round pass than usual, which helps. A bit.
  • Raven2318Raven2318 Member Posts: 226
    I understand NG wants to take time to look through feedback, although heaven only knows why in the case of this, if we are just looking at providing a sustainable, enjoyable long term game model, the feedback has to be overwhelming in favour of the new challenge. I suspect the bottom line is, the monetary figures have to come in from the bean counters.
    I’m with Capy; I am sitting the next challenge out. Not that it makes much of a difference, but having seen something so much better, I just can’t take up the mantle of disappointment and tedium again.
  • anachro12anachro12 Member Posts: 15
    The old challenge system is pay to play and boring. If you want a high score you must go through an endless easy grind just to get to challenging stages and pay for gas if you cannot play every second of the day. I work 60 hours a week and I managed to get to level 29-1 this week and had tons of fun.
    Now if I want to succeed I must use every spare moment of my day and spend money on gas during my weekend to catch up. Even then it will be hard to get to my limit.
    Please please please don’t make me go back to the boring awful tedious grind again. It’s NOT FUN!!! ITS BORING for goodness sake!!! This challenge was actually fun and didn’t take up my whole life. It is cruel to take it away again and ask me to go through a mind numbing grind! I need some free time in my life. If this is just a one time thing then I will be among the people leaving.
  • Mais88Mais88 Member Posts: 348
    I wasn't bored this week or pressured to get stars while also playing the Distance on Saturday. I also had time to raid a bunch of times. So sad that's gonna change. I could never be in a top guild because I'm just not going to spend my spare time or precious money getting meaningless stars for lopsided rewards.

    Write another chapter to the story mission for Pete's sake to break up the tedium. You create a new show episode each week. Cant see why you havent written another chapter in a year. That's just lazy IMO.
  • ShadowaceAzShadowaceAz Member Posts: 3,402
    I can only speak for myself, while it appears others have the desire/ability to speak for all?

    I normally avoid forum posting when it comes to context that matters, why? I’ll tell you. There are some self important (expletives) who love to take it upon themselves to either post, or private message, directly to people calling them names or saying “You know nobody agrees with you” “You have no idea what your talking about” one I recently got and loved was “You have your guild information in your signature, this is not a forum about recruiting, you need to remove that and only post about your guild in the recruitment forum. You have just tried to hijack this thread!”... So why do some of us stay in the dark and just read? Because to many “Not us” like to jump down our throats if we have not been here for 3 years!

    How is this relevant to this thread?

    Because in the messages in the game, I was asked to provide feedback.

    Now to tell me the only way to provide feedback is through the forums is in complete opposition to what NG told me.

    To tell me, aside from the star counters, everyone has shown they are fed up with the old system and prefer the new, is saying you have access to all the messages sent to NG through that button?

    Ok, that’s all I am saying and someone will flame me for it, but we NEW this was a trial. As I read in earlier posts, anyone who threatens to quit because they go back to the old style, is how was it put here? Oh yeah! “Just looking for an excuse to quit”

    Double edged swords strike both ways...
    As the human torch is quoted so often, Flame On!
    Descensus in cuniculi cavum
    Vir prudens non contra ventum mingit

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