I just LOVE the freaking NML gold crates!
ProjectX7
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Yep! I do love them Nextgames. I love how they literally just silver crates with a different color. And I got a picture to prove it. Do you guys got any? Show me your love for the gold grates!
PS: Top right-Gold
Bottom Left-Silver
PS: Top right-Gold
Bottom Left-Silver
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> In this week i received a lot of legendary weapons from gold crates. Like 8/10 crates a receive legendary weapons the others was a legendary fragments, xp and radios and some epic.
You lucky bas bird! How are you doing that and who in NG are you mind controlling
> That's exactly what I came here to post a message about. Two of the same level and same quality ( rare ) but 1 is gold while the other is silver. They are even for the same class so there's absolutely No difference. How is this fair?!
It’s business my dear Romero! Hate the free stuff so you’ll by the expensive stuff!
Yep, lol
I always open all 3 in column 1, watch commercial, open column 2. If i always follow this method, i should "find" 2/3 of all gold crates. This method removes luck but im pretty sure i find less than half of gold crates. So it is not random, its rigged to get you to use gold. And NG sells gold.
We need a bunch of people keeping track of their success rate at finding them. Only tally data on gold boxes and only go on runs when you have commercials coming. Seems we get about 4 an hour. I use the long lost bs to tell me when i can get commercials after a mission. Watch the movie, then go on up to 4 runs.
Always open the same 6 boxes! After you have at least 50 gold crate missions, determine your success rate. I guarantee it will be "unbalanced" in favor of failure. Now do it again but change 3 of the boxes. I do columns to make it easier. I started out doing the 2 outside. When i noticed way too many gold boxes unopened, i switched to left and middle. Magically i still had the same lost gold box issue. Then i had my first reconnect issue and it became crystal clear.
Its rigged.
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> Yep, lol
Hey! You ALMOST got back what you payed for when you got that green! Sweet!
What's in them is still random though, although a little in advance.
Links to threads that are useful for beginners (and in some cases even for veterans)
> It has been discussed here but that was along time ago. It's to prevent abusing disconnects.
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> What's in them is still random though, although a little in advance.
Kinda like believing in omniscience and freewill at the same time. Leaves a sour taste.
I get it, to reduce cheating. The illusion could be change though, to speed things up.
Just present the 3 things we "get" then have the options to watch an ad for 3 more things and then the gold to get 3 more things.
With the complete lack of trust in a gold chest (I'll offer my previous post above for reference) there's really no reason to even display chests, just the items. Yes, ALMOST
The two things you are talking about above are not actually related. It's possible crate rewards are designed to encourage gold spending, but that has nothing to do with measures taken to prevent exploits. I would say more, but such topics are verboten here.
As my highest survivor is level 19, there’s no way except challenge crates can I be getting things of this level. I have more, but had limited merging space.
So yes, I have to confirm it is possible to get Epic and Legendary gear from gold Challenge crates.
Just my $0.02 cents worth of observations.
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Links to threads that are useful for beginners (and in some cases even for veterans)
Made sure to screen capture before making the bonus opening to show One gold box, first opening, 1 Legendary item for those who believe you can only hit the crate on the second or third opening thus forcing one to spend gold to get the crates.
SCORE!
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The excuse they gave for their rigging of tha game is a non issue. I play on an 8 year old tablet on crappy rural internet service. If the alleged exploit existed, i would definitely be able to use it. But the feedback is too instantaneous to work with even the slowest possible set up. The only time it "works" is when my net crashes before i select boxes.
The fact that i experimented with a possible expoit is not relevant to the fact that they are cheating us by rigging the reward system. The two issues are mutually exclusive.
What is relevant to this discussion is that they openly admit to the rigging and the excuse they give is so lame. Im shoked that people who are dumb enough to swallow thei lie exist. Im confused as to why madpuppy would even mention random when it not random at all.
If you are so interested in keeping people employed, maybe you should stop insulting your customers intelligence. I started out spending money, then i abruptly stopped. How many others just like me are out there? Forum feedback suggests quit a few. The sooner you stop assuming its because we are stupid, the sooner your revenues will stop their downward decline.
You obviously don't fully understand the exploit that was taking place as many players that did understand it were taking full advantage of it.
This left NG will no choice to change the mechanics to how they are now. Also in making this change hasn't actually changed the chances of opening gold boxes.
To say it's rigged is simply false.
Take notice that they do not dispute my assertion that a disproportionate number of gold boxes are programmed to only be accessible by use of gold nor do they dispute my assertion that a disproportionately low number of gold boxes are available in the first selection. This programming is especially offensive because the players most likely to experience this screw job are the paying customers who have purchased full gas. I can get 4 commercials an hour. So after 10 mins, you only get 1 free roll at crates and that roll is intentionally rigged to screw players. But you think thats perfectly fine.
Im a bit confused as to how the change did not decrease the chances of obtaining gold boxes. If they system was alredy screwing you out of gold boxes, then why would they need to change it? If people were exploiting the system to get more gold boxes and this change eliminated that exploit, then the chance (probability) of getting a gold box went down. A person always picking the same 6 boxes would find 2/3 of all gold boxes over the long run in a fair system. Any system that intentionally does otherwise is rigged.
You got me, im not a good cheater. However, i do have a basic understanding of probability, which you obviously don't. I think i hear the system lords calling. They're serving kool-aid and i wouldn't want to prevent you from being first in line.