Rare RPG in action

RWS · July 2018

Just finished the rare RPG upgrade. Here it is on Challenge map Mash

CBgaming1969 · July 2018

Is that upgraded or just straight of the shelf @RWS ?

Did you try it before upgrade?

What kind of badges are on your toter?

RWS · July 2018

The RPG is fully upgrade. The hunter has base damage of 6057 with badges. 3 damage badges, 1 critical damage and chance and 1 health badge. Didn't try it before upgrade.

DLich · July 2018

Do you have an image of the upgraded damage stats of the RPG? It's suppose to be more (but I guess since it's rare maybe it's a wash compared to a lvl 27 upgraded legendary hunter weapon with the same traits)

RWS · July 2018

I'm showing rare RPG fully upgraded has base damage of 2169...versus legendary weapon at 2350. Be interested in what the legendary comes out at.

rudjawol · July 2018

Legendary RPG damage 2531.
I think the weapon is weak somehow.

Cansir_GenesisRus · July 2018

First shot on 6220dmg??? What was that??? It should be critical hit on central target. Didn’t see it
I think it is a bug
NG should fix it ASAP

RWS · July 2018

I'm not sure what that 1st shot was either. But I agree with your assessment that it's needs piercing for it to be useful at higher levels.

RWS · July 2018

Here's her stats

DLich · July 2018

From my understanding regarding how it works...

CBgaming1969 · July 2018

@kaz can you watch @RWS video and answer a few questions?

I thought the hit or strike radius was supposed to be bigger as in up to 9 walkers with the central target being a guaranteed critical hit? The radius looks basically identical to the varmint blast to me from the video?

Do pink stars and or badges have any affect on the RPG? Or is it just what it is regardless of the hunter who uses it?

Doesn't it appear to be very underwhelming?

Will the legendary version be substantially better and stronger, causing more damage than the rare one is doing?

bladgier · July 2018

Central target is guaranteed no bodyshot, not critical.

Cansir_GenesisRus · July 2018

> @bladgier said:
> Central target is guaranteed no bodyshot, not critical.

Yeah, but first shot on video is 6220 damage only. It’s not a critical hit.

Cronus · July 2018

To get the most out of this weapon it would seem to me you'd want a hunter loaded with critical chance badges (finally a use for them). Daryl might be a good candidate or a hunter with sure shot. With Daryl's leadership trait you can at least move him and still have the benefit of increased critical chance (not like sure shot). Are the critical chance badges additive? Say my survivor has 45% greater critical chance and I have 40% critical chance in badges does that make 85%? How does it work with Daryl? Mine reads "30% more likely to be Critical Hits" so is there some base level of critical chance built in and if so how much is it? Crit chance maxes at 90% so wouldn't want to overload him (I have Legendary crit chance badges unassigned).

Cansir_GenesisRus · July 2018

> @RWS said:
> Here's her stats

It better to use 3dmg + 3 critical dmg badges for RPG.
And ofc ruthless is must have trait for this weapon

mik81 · July 2018

Ruthless adds exactly 0. You don't have charge attacks...

Cronus · July 2018

> @Cansir_GenesisRus said:
> > @RWS said:
> > Here's her stats
>
> It better to use 3dmg + 3 critical dmg badges for RPG.
> And ofc ruthless is must have trait for this weapon
>

I disagree. You need to do everything possible to turn that guaranteed non-body shot into a critical shot. Weapon has lucky and accurate so you'd want critical chance badges first to get to 90% cap. Then I'd think critical damage badges to maximize critical hit.

DoTak · July 2018

@Cronus

Base crit chance appears to he 10%

That and more info on critical hits here

https://forums.nextgames.com/walkingdead/discussion/comment/249718/#Comment_249718

Ok, I tested the link and for some reason it takes you to the bottom of the page that the comment is on.

Here's a screen of the post

Cronus · July 2018

Thanks @DoTak

bladgier · July 2018

> @Cansir_GenesisRus said:
> > @bladgier said:
> > Central target is guaranteed no bodyshot, not critical.
>
> Yeah, but first shot on video is 6220 damage only. It’s not a critical hit.
>

How does that counter my comment?

6220 seems exactly like non bodyshot.

It's not a critical hit because it's not guaranteed, that's exactly what I've said 🤷‍♂️🤔

dandancar77 · July 2018

that stinks if a regular walker can take 2 indirect hits and still be runnin around 😕

Cronus · July 2018

@DoTak it's interesting that I have this in my notes:

Critical Chance with Luck
In contrast to other traits, Luck adds directly to the chance of a critical shot/hit.
Crit Chance = minimum of: {(base chance + luck + accurate + Sure Shot or Powerstrike + Carol or Daryl), (90%)}

It seems what you have from Shteevie is different from that as luck is a multiplier, not additive.

DoTak · July 2018

@Cronus

Yes, good point, I recall reading that.

Here is the initial comment by Shteevie, as well a follow up

Both on same page of the List of traits affected by luck thread
https://forums.nextgames.com/walkingdead/discussion/comment/296667/#Comment_296667

It's also interesting that in regards to the question of the base crit chance, he states he doesn't want to disclose that info, yet he clearly did in the previous post I found.

Does this mean we're all still guessing how lucky affects crit chances? I hope you and others can figure this out. I'm conserving what little brain power I have left for basic daily functions like which pant leg to put on first 😂

ATLAS-Z · July 2018

Daryl really is the only option for optimum Grenade Launching.

Green Launcher:
Base 10 + Lucky 10 + Accurate 10 + Leadertrait + 30-ish = 60% crit chance plus whatever badges you add to polish it up. 1 gold or two blue should be adequate. Then dedicate the rest to damage & crit damage.

Gold Launcher is the same but 10% higher from better traits, so 70% crit chance plus badges. One should do here.

Cronus · July 2018

@DoTak yeah those are two totally different calculations given by him. In one he has Lucky being additive and in the other it is a multiplier. I did a couple calculations with some of my survivors and it seems more logical to me that Lucky is a multiplier, otherwise if it is additive you get to the 90% cap pretty easily. With @RWS survivor example if that survivor has not moved and Sure Shot is engaged he'll hit the 90% cap.

RWS · July 2018

You guys are awesome....some of your calculations are eye opening. Thanks for the insight!

mack22 · July 2018

I agree, this place is great for strategy and a laugh.

mack22 · July 2018

I wonder why they called it Daryl's RPG? 🤔

WalkerRon · July 2018

Kind of disappointing.

Starr621 · July 2018

So based on the calculations I've seen, it seems like Maggie may actually be the best hero for using the rocket launcher? She has lucky, marksman, and sure shot. Since the mechanics of the rocket launcher require a cooldown turn, this turn could be used to move her in a safe area for her next attack.

It actually seems interesting to see if it will work better for Daryl or Maggie...but I guess it still depends on what badges you have equipped as well as your playstyle. I move around a lot and Daryl tokens are easier to get from story.

Btw Cronus, did you mean to put 0.15 instead of 0.10 for the critical damage? Am I understanding your equation correctly?
(base + Daryl's trait/sure shot + crit chance trait + badges) * (1 + lucky traits) = total critical chance

snafu · July 2018

Do body shot mechanics for non-center targets follow level difference? Body shot damage seems to be less than 1/3 of base damage.

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