> @bladgier said:
> Yeah crambert's bruiser health is like nothing I've seen before.
> Bear in mind that it's with Rufus lead bonus.

Yeah Rufus makes for good photo ops, it's true. We've all done it.

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I heard Rufus! Not sure Eugene’s face could be more on the verge of ugly crying but I feel it could break since his pickle jar is gifted to a different class.

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Clearly @bladgier@romeo are die-hard fans, or they know something we don't.

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I know that Eugene's trait prevents from critical hits which actually works. It got buffed not long ago also. Other thing is that you can put silver stun resist armor on him and his trait brings is up to 75% cap. That gets u 2 extra golden slots for things like health, iron skin, hazard, dodge.

Me using him has nothing to do with being a fan of his persona in the show 😝

@bladgier the stun thing I get I guess, makes sense, but the crit thing? The % is so low that 3 out of 4 hits on you are still gonna crit?

Seems kinda meh for devoting what is clearly some of your best badges?

Help me understand...

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That 25% is as good as dodge on survivor and silver dodge on armour. If you had him in lead with a survivor who already had those traits with lucky to boot it would bump it up to 55-60%.

Something to consider anyway, if I had badges spare

For those interested, I did some calculating on the Profit Eugene shows. I did calculate the profit it would bring to my scout that doesn't need iron skin (on the armor) to get 80% damage reduction.

EDIT --> Just to be sure, I assume 100% critical hit chance at high levels! ---------> This calculation is about the high levels!

Here's the %. Eugene Trait --> 25% Luck Trait --> 20% on survivor and 20% on a golden lucky weapon. (40%) Dodge Trait --> 16% on survivor and 15% on the armor. (31%) Hazard Suit --> 20% body shot chance

Calculating becomes interesting but I'll first show the results.

As one can see, Eugene + hazard suit makes a real nice situation for my scout. Only a 29% chance at a critical hit and 21% chance to dodge.

Replacing golden hazard suit for Ruthless, I still have only 37% chance at critical and 15% chance at dodge. Without Eugene that would be 57% at critical and 0% chance at dodge! If my scout wears a armor with Golden Ruthless, golden dodge and silver stun resistance. And he has a 20% lucky on the weapon. He'll be pretty happy about Eugene as leader.

Now for those interested, the calculation. (I only do the Eugene + hazard suit calculation. that one is most complex, the rest is just a derivative of that so...)

20% chance at body shot means 20%*43.4%= 8.7% chance at dodge thanks to body-shot 20%-8.7%= 11.3% chance at body-shot

80% left. 80%*35%*43.4%=12.2% chance at dodge thanks to Eugene 80%*35%-12.2%=15.8% chance at normal hit thanks to Eugene

52% left. 52%*43.4%=22.6% chance at normal hit thanks to dodge.

@jimmorrison369 that's awesome. You've given me some good info there.

A lot to chew on while I gather the last few tokens to make him legendary.

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Well, this seems like a very good, albeit off topic, spot for me to remind @Kaz that Eugene still hasn't had a double hero token call yet. It appears opinions may be swaying towards Eugene not being completely useless and giving him his first double token call could be very well received at this point.

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1,1122,056Since I'm genuinely using him as one of my A team bruiser, there you go 😁

642883> 19k health!?! what are your badges?

I've seen 22k health on someones bruiser, perfect badges!

Edit it wasn't quite 22k, it was Hank the Tank from @crambert_nec

1,1972,2542,056Bear in mind that it's with Rufus lead bonus.

1,1973,190> Yeah crambert's bruiser health is like nothing I've seen before.

> Bear in mind that it's with Rufus lead bonus.

Yeah Rufus makes for good photo ops, it's true. We've all done it.

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2,0563,402Sorry, we have Eugene working on an important

project. He can't come to the radio right now.

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2,056Me using him has nothing to do with being a fan of his persona in the show 😝

3,190Seems kinda meh for devoting what is clearly some of your best badges?

Help me understand...

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1,977Something to consider anyway, if I had badges spare

https://forums.nextgames.com/walkingdead/discussion/40263/wild-walking-is-actively-seeking-new-members"

6161,937I did calculate the profit it would bring to my scout that doesn't need iron skin (on the armor) to get 80% damage reduction.

EDIT --> Just to be sure, I assume 100% critical hit chance at high levels!

---------> This calculation is about the high levels!

Here's the %.

Eugene Trait --> 25%

Luck Trait --> 20% on survivor and 20% on a golden lucky weapon. (40%)

Dodge Trait --> 16% on survivor and 15% on the armor. (31%)

Hazard Suit --> 20% body shot chance

So

Eugene --> 25%*1.4=

35%Dodge --> 31%*1.4=

43.4%BodyShot-->

20%Calculating becomes interesting but I'll first show the results.

As one can see, Eugene + hazard suit makes a real nice situation for my scout.

Only a 29% chance at a critical hit and 21% chance to dodge.

Replacing golden hazard suit for Ruthless, I still have only 37% chance at critical and 15% chance at dodge.Without Eugene that would be 57% at critical and 0% chance at dodge!

If my scout wears a armor with Golden Ruthless, golden dodge and silver stun resistance.

And he has a 20% lucky on the weapon. He'll be pretty happy about Eugene as leader.

Now for those interested, the calculation. (I only do the Eugene + hazard suit calculation. that one is most complex, the rest is just a derivative of that so...)

20% chance at body shot means

20%*43.4%= 8.7% chance at

dodgethanks to body-shot20%-8.7%= 11.3% chance at

body-shot80% left.

80%*35%*43.4%=12.2% chance at

dodgethanks to Eugene80%*35%-12.2%=15.8% chance at

normal hitthanks to Eugene52% left.

52%*43.4%=22.6% chance at

normal hitthanks to dodge.29.4% left, so that will be the

critical hit.Reformulating would be.

TotalDodge%=Dodge%*

(BodyShot%+Eugene%*(100%-BodyShot%))TotalBodyShot%=BodyShot%*(100%-Dodge%)

TotalNormalHit%=(100%-BodyShot%)*

(Eugene%*(100%-Dodge%)+Dodge%*(100%-Eugene%))CriticalHit%=100%-TotalDodge%-TotalBodyShot%-TotalNormalHit%

2,0561,937Just For Shitz & Giggles.

I also made calculations for when crit chance is not 100%

I did 100, 90, 50, 25 and 0% critical chance.

Do note, % are rounded, so it might seem like not all add up to 100%.

Trust me, they do...

3,190A lot to chew on while I gather the last few tokens to make him legendary.

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