> @Hanny1873 said:
> @vshield50 Yes unconfirmed at present as i can not prove anyones intent as that can only be proven by a big enough person to admit malice, however the facts are, he requested access for content, we said a massive NO! He then accuses us of cheating with ZERO information regarding any player in our guild, also because he has been given an undeserved mantle as “Content Creator” unfortunately his comments are actually taken seriously by some people! Basically like a unlicensed media outlet allowed to freely post slander with no repercussions! He can edit his post all he wants to take out name out, however we deserve an apology
You guys and gals at Army of Slayers do deserve an apology regardless. Especially for reasons you described. I guess we will see....
> @vshield50 said:
> > @Hanny1873 said:
> > @vshield50 Yes unconfirmed at present as i can not prove anyones intent as that can only be proven by a big enough person to admit malice, however the facts are, he requested access for content, we said a massive NO! He then accuses us of cheating with ZERO information regarding any player in our guild, also because he has been given an undeserved mantle as “Content Creator” unfortunately his comments are actually taken seriously by some people! Basically like a unlicensed media outlet allowed to freely post slander with no repercussions! He can edit his post all he wants to take out name out, however we deserve an apology
>
> You guys and gals at Army of Slayers do deserve an apology regardless. Especially for reasons you described. I guess we will see...
Just to reaffirm, AOS has GREAT people in their guild. Very competitive as @mystique said. I also played with a large majority of them so I would bank on their integrity over an unfounded accusation (or inquiry that puts their integrity into question). I again apologize for what was said concerning you guys and gals. Keep slaying 😉
@Slayerstyle
With all due respect for your commitment and loyalty to the game, with all the purchases you’ve made, I am sure you can’t resist the game more than two weeks.
@bladgier i definitely appreciate your humanistic view on the subject, however what doesn't sit right with me is that @Kaz has confirmed that they get to keep all rewards and stars they gathered while cheating.
How difficult can it be to take these back? Or prevent them from getting stars and rewards after they come back and untill the balance of cheating is truly zero?
The response from NG therefore is rather lax and weak.
@xbamfx and the AOS guild as a whole. You don't have to prove your innocence unless you recently moved to North-Korea - in which case you will get the chance to prove it right after your execution -.
I therefore completely understand your outrage at being accused - even implicitly- by someone affiliated to NG. A heartfelt apology seems in order.
On a sidenote I do hope those having been accused and banned by NG have had their due process which of course none of us can say because we have zero information about said process.
I agree with @bladgier even though initial reaction is drop the hammer, I also think everyone deserves a second chance depending on the infraction serverity. I do think all gained by said exploit should be stripped, the obvious gains I.e. 5 pink heroes and such.
> @bladgier said:
> @vshield50 so you're saying that making a choice can't be a mistake?
>
> Yes they made a conscious choices. Which were mistakes.
I agree with what you posted here. I just read it differently when reading your post. It didn't seem like like you were absolving them from any responsibility but I wanted to stress that a conscious choice to do what they did was more than a mistake.
@Hanny1873 What do I gain from accusing your guild of cheating?
I respect any guild or a player who has achieved anything through fair play. I can do 800 points per battle but its hard to find 19 more people who do that. You guys have found each other and it’s great what you can achieve through team work.
Right now I am running a social event in Our World with about 1000 people. This is my 3rd one this week and just to be clear I have 0 interest in your guild.
When someone does something amazing in any of the NG games I think it deserves a shoutout. I asked you a simple question. You rejected. That’s fine I moved one. If you dont’t believe me message me or even call me.
I never initially considered what I said to be framing. I edited my comment because it appeared some people took it the wrong way. No bad feelings.
Also I always help NG when I find websites or hacks/cheat that break their TOS. I will help the NML team with what I can in order to ensure fair play is present.
I have the habit of speaking before thinking about the consequences sometimes so I do apologies for that.
I talked too much...Bye gotta add their US guilds into the big party
My ADT home security alarm system installer just hacked my system and broke into my house. I decided to trespass him for 2 weeks. After that I need him to return to my house to reset my system. Carl trait style 😁
> @bladgier said:
>
> Ask yourself a question honestly, every one of us:
> Have you not made a mistake in your life that wouldn't deserve a second chance? Where it's seen from society's point of view as very bad and punishable without a come back point? Have we all become judges that are ready to sentence anyone right away with out looking at ourselves first?
>
When it comes to this game and every other game I’ve played, I’ve never cheated, so yes, I feel like I can judge those who decide to cheat.
Can you say the same, that you’ve never cheated in this game?
People who take shortcuts to cheat, either through mods, glitches, exploits (using airplane mode), destroy the integrity of the game.
I appreciate your call for leniency, but I spent too many hard hours playing this game the right way to feel okay about known cheaters being let back into the game.
@Timyun that's actually a good idea, I geniuenly like that 😀
Some game creators allowed certain players to come back into the game after being perma banned under a condition of public testimony and apologies, recorded and publicly uploaded 😁
Hmmmm, two week ban for hacking? It must have been by players who spend a lot 💰 💵 or it would have been forever. It is like fining a NBA Star $50,000, it is almost nothing.
Two which hunts on this forum. The forums has become such a harmful environment for some people. People are attacked, others jump on the band wagon.
All i can say is have a mind of your own.
If you were banned sucks for you, I agree two weeks isn't enough. Using another application to cheat is horrible.
I think only way to solve this is to close the thread. The information is already out. We are aware we had cheaters.
How about replacing all their armor with Bulletproof, Sniper Harness, and Training Gear? And why not also replace their ranged weapons with Silencer, Interrupt, and Accuracy and their melee weapons with Interrupt, Accuracy, and Tactical? That would be fun to see their reaction when they finally log back in. Kaz, see if the Devs can enable the cameras on their phones.
Uhm.... interesting... wonder if this could be my chance to have a perm ban and finally being free from this game...
"Always be yourself unless you can be a capybara. Then always be a capybara". --> Do you need a guild? ...send me a Private Message. My Recruiting den and my "Art Objects" in the Next Games Collection.
Has anyone heard of a 2X exploit for GW? Last GW we were getting out scored twice as fast as we scored by a guild we beat down earlier. Haven’t seen it this week until now. One of our guild mates took screen shots and sent it directly to Kaz. Just wondering if we are being paranoid or is it really a thing...
> Uhm.... interesting... wonder if this could be my chance to have a perm ban and finally being free from this game...
Go out in a blaze of glory. Just look at the flowers.
...yeah..i did a pic about that long tine ago... let me browse...
*5 minutes later* ...
"Always be yourself unless you can be a capybara. Then always be a capybara". --> Do you need a guild? ...send me a Private Message. My Recruiting den and my "Art Objects" in the Next Games Collection.
In most games cheaters get a permaban. Only reasons I can see for not doing this is a) they are very well known players b) as xiaofei66 said they must be spending large amounts.
Maybe we should do some kick-ass event next weekend that those booted folks get to miss. I propose a "Triple Threat Weekend": run Guild Week along side Radioactive (preferably with increased radios) and No Body Shots. With no GW next weekend, we can play to our hearts content getting a bunch of radios along with all the prizes that go with guild week!
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> @vshield50 Yes unconfirmed at present as i can not prove anyones intent as that can only be proven by a big enough person to admit malice, however the facts are, he requested access for content, we said a massive NO! He then accuses us of cheating with ZERO information regarding any player in our guild, also because he has been given an undeserved mantle as “Content Creator” unfortunately his comments are actually taken seriously by some people! Basically like a unlicensed media outlet allowed to freely post slander with no repercussions! He can edit his post all he wants to take out name out, however we deserve an apology
You guys and gals at Army of Slayers do deserve an apology regardless. Especially for reasons you described. I guess we will see....
> > @Hanny1873 said:
> > @vshield50 Yes unconfirmed at present as i can not prove anyones intent as that can only be proven by a big enough person to admit malice, however the facts are, he requested access for content, we said a massive NO! He then accuses us of cheating with ZERO information regarding any player in our guild, also because he has been given an undeserved mantle as “Content Creator” unfortunately his comments are actually taken seriously by some people! Basically like a unlicensed media outlet allowed to freely post slander with no repercussions! He can edit his post all he wants to take out name out, however we deserve an apology
>
> You guys and gals at Army of Slayers do deserve an apology regardless. Especially for reasons you described. I guess we will see...
Just to reaffirm, AOS has GREAT people in their guild. Very competitive as @mystique said. I also played with a large majority of them so I would bank on their integrity over an unfounded accusation (or inquiry that puts their integrity into question). I again apologize for what was said concerning you guys and gals. Keep slaying 😉
With all due respect for your commitment and loyalty to the game, with all the purchases you’ve made, I am sure you can’t resist the game more than two weeks.
How difficult can it be to take these back? Or prevent them from getting stars and rewards after they come back and untill the balance of cheating is truly zero?
The response from NG therefore is rather lax and weak.
@xbamfx and the AOS guild as a whole. You don't have to prove your innocence unless you recently moved to North-Korea - in which case you will get the chance to prove it right after your execution -.
I therefore completely understand your outrage at being accused - even implicitly- by someone affiliated to NG. A heartfelt apology seems in order.
On a sidenote I do hope those having been accused and banned by NG have had their due process which of course none of us can say because we have zero information about said process.
Yes they made a conscious choices. Which were mistakes.
> @vshield50 so you're saying that making a choice can't be a mistake?
>
> Yes they made a conscious choices. Which were mistakes.
I agree with what you posted here. I just read it differently when reading your post. It didn't seem like like you were absolving them from any responsibility but I wanted to stress that a conscious choice to do what they did was more than a mistake.
I respect any guild or a player who has achieved anything through fair play. I can do 800 points per battle but its hard to find 19 more people who do that. You guys have found each other and it’s great what you can achieve through team work.
Right now I am running a social event in Our World with about 1000 people. This is my 3rd one this week and just to be clear I have 0 interest in your guild.
When someone does something amazing in any of the NG games I think it deserves a shoutout. I asked you a simple question. You rejected. That’s fine I moved one. If you dont’t believe me message me or even call me.
I never initially considered what I said to be framing. I edited my comment because it appeared some people took it the wrong way. No bad feelings.
Also I always help NG when I find websites or hacks/cheat that break their TOS. I will help the NML team with what I can in order to ensure fair play is present.
I have the habit of speaking before thinking about the consequences sometimes so I do apologies for that.
I talked too much...Bye gotta add their US guilds into the big party
My Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnu91DEXHRfzGIZP1MKLU6Q
>
> Ask yourself a question honestly, every one of us:
> Have you not made a mistake in your life that wouldn't deserve a second chance? Where it's seen from society's point of view as very bad and punishable without a come back point? Have we all become judges that are ready to sentence anyone right away with out looking at ourselves first?
>
When it comes to this game and every other game I’ve played, I’ve never cheated, so yes, I feel like I can judge those who decide to cheat.
Can you say the same, that you’ve never cheated in this game?
People who take shortcuts to cheat, either through mods, glitches, exploits (using airplane mode), destroy the integrity of the game.
I appreciate your call for leniency, but I spent too many hard hours playing this game the right way to feel okay about known cheaters being let back into the game.
Class act @skoshi
Some game creators allowed certain players to come back into the game after being perma banned under a condition of public testimony and apologies, recorded and publicly uploaded 😁
All i can say is have a mind of your own.
If you were banned sucks for you, I agree two weeks isn't enough. Using another application to cheat is horrible.
I think only way to solve this is to close the thread. The information is already out. We are aware we had cheaters.
Done.
No one knows.
No need to announce
No one accuse anyone
Solved.
Let’s enjoy GW
With no server problems of course
--> Do you need a guild? ...send me a Private Message. My Recruiting den and my "Art Objects" in the Next Games Collection.
You will not go out for something you have not done.
But when it’s your time..... you can go with your head up high
> Uhm.... interesting... wonder if this could be my chance to have a perm ban and finally being free from this game...
Go out in a blaze of glory. Just look at the flowers.
*5 minutes later* ...
--> Do you need a guild? ...send me a Private Message. My Recruiting den and my "Art Objects" in the Next Games Collection.
Only reasons I can see for not doing this is
a) they are very well known players
b) as xiaofei66 said they must be spending large amounts.
HEE, HEE!
Sorry!