I don't disagree with you. I just wondered how many other guilds where effected by the same issue and aren't even aware.
I have no idea if NG are able to resolve this matter or not. I think if they can they should be able to do it across the board.
Although my guild didn't have this issue we had every other issues that has been mentioned. We deliberately didn't go into battles when we realized there were problems and when we did after hearing things were now better only to discover things weren't working stilll. A very frustrating weekend for many.
Anyway, I understand your frustration and as you know I respect you as a player and on a personal level. I didn't mean to seem to take anything away from your frustration or that of your guild. I sincerely hope you all get can get past this bad time within the game and I look forward to hopefully meeting your team on the battlefield.
(Although you'll probably kick our arse)
> @xbamfx said:
> Reset the leaderboard for everyone. Make it fair back to 0 for everyone. As you said plenty were affected right? Ok keep reward points reset the board I want my 12 battles over, not 10 not half a battle not a battle giveth and then erased. Surely no one would be against a restart right? Seeing as “many” were affected? Make it fair, start over and give EVERYONE a fair shot. Poof problem solved.
Exactly this, I have zero problem with a restart. And as for AoS, you should get every RP that’s associated with your wars, logged or not, because you have the proof it happened
What I want is a fair GW, a chance to chase down top spot, without a reset, it’s not possible
All i see here is Army of Crybabies and polite people who are just avoiding to tell them that their request is just selfish and unfair.
We were at war where everyone had casualties, some guilds more, some less, and only because you calculated that you are missing 23k VP you think you deserve to get them? What about other people, other guilds? I am sure someone lost even more then you.
We just won't bother calculating how much we could have because war was broken from the beginning to the end, And only fair thing to do is to REPEAT WHOLE WAR.
But ok, at least i had some solid drama to read and kill time before challenge, and i hope NG won't give happy end just to single guild in this one.
All i see here is Army of Crybabies and polite people who are just avoiding to tell them that their request is just selfish and unfair.
Heh, I see your point but playing at the highest level of games like this kinda distorts your sense of perspective. It matters far more than it should. Hell, I fondly remember setting my alarm to wake me up at 2am and 5am for events on certain guild-focused games just so I didn't miss out on any points. I've almost crashed my car because I checked something on my phone when I should have been looking out for puddles on the road (yes, I know how incredibly stupid that is). It matters to AoS.
As the duly elected (ish) representative of Lesser Guilds (TM) I'd like to flag that for many less hardcore guilds it's a major task to get people to turn up and play 2-3 GW a day (guild total, not each person) and so losing out on points and potentially rewards is a pretty big hit on morale and willingness to participate in future wars. People have families, jobs and... well, other stuff in their lives - if they turn up for a war then it's probably at the cost of doing something with the people they care about.
Resetting the season is not a good solution for those people - it's a kick in the face.
The vast, vast majority of players will not give a single solitary shit about the top 10 guild or player rankings. Probably not the top 50 or 100 either. They care that the time they put in is rewarded with something positive - either enjoyable gameplay or in game items. I previously suggested that the VP threshold for each tier is reduced by up to 25% so that everyone still has a chance of reaching the prize tier they would have if the first war had gone to plan... some will benefit more (because their wars weren't so disrupted) but no-one would lose out. Would this benefit AoS? Maybe not, but it would be good for 95%+ of the player base.
@Jaden didn't you come fight GW with our guild last war to collect the Daryl tokens. You weren't worried about your guild or the largest group of players then were you? I smell hypocrite
What does that have to do with anything?
Why am I a hypocrite for accepting a generous invitation? The general player base didn't get something taken away from them because your guild was awesome and generous to as many people as they could have been. (And you couldn't have done it for all of my guild and they understand that - I played hard to earn as much as I could for my guild and to figure out what works best for us - so please don't say I do not care about my guild. They lost nothing because I jumped over for one battle - I had 5 gas left, that would have gotten us nowhere.)
Why am I a hypocrite for not wanting everyone to lose the VP and RP they have worked for?
Why am I a hypocrite for saying that I think that is what NG has done and taken into consideration?
I really hope your VP will get restored but I am totally against everyone else's progress to get taken away from them.
Some of you are practically saying that because your car got stolen you want everyone's car to be taken away. I would rather like to see your car returned to you.
I have also suggested something that might work and would probably not upset everyone else...
I will forever be grateful for having been invited to AOS to get Daryl tokens and chainsaw and I really respect you guys a lot. But this thing some of you are advocating for is a terrible idea in my opinion.
Also, I would very much prefer not to be personally attacked. I didn't do that to any of you, I just stated my opinion on the idea of a total GW rollback.
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@Jaden fyi that part about taking 23,000 points of other guilds was to help ppl see our point of view (wasn't meant to be taken seriously but hey whatever) as others have said we all (including us) had the same problems with connection and lost keys etc and have been compensated for that but WE had the separate problem of if you'll indulge my analogy for a minute.. depositing $23,000(which we have irrefutable proof) in a bank (not potential $23,000 actual $23,000) that was fought for an earned and then that bank misplaced the money.
That's all we are asking for the actual points we made not the potential points we could've made if it wasn't for the issues throughout the wars
Lol we are trying to get some points that we already earned back. If no one else had this or ANY issues would you guys still be saying “NG don’t do ittttttt” let’s do this then every guild gets 2 of their highest battles taken out to match what happened with us because everything that also happened to you guys also happened to us. We dealt with issues all day long losing keys and connection issues. THEN we also got 2 battles taken away. Points that were logged in for the other team and weren’t for us. I am mind blown how getting points that were mysteriously deleted out of our log would be such a issue for you guys lmao. I’m done speaking about this. If 2 weeks worth of challenge stars got taken away from yourself or the guild itself I would assume you guys would say something as well.
@Captainslayer - I think it's fair to say that there is no solution that will be OK for everyone, such is the nature of inconsistent server meltdowns. You missed points, this is very... very unfortunate. If I was in your position then I'd be fighting like mad to get them reinstated. Unfortunately, if they are then someone else would get "the hump" because they had issues but don't have evidence - such as all the guilds that had nodes that wouldn't complete, or members locked out for part/most of the battle. We all took a hit, but because you're at the top - your hit will be greater than most. That is unfortunately a bit shit.
If I spent actual $ on GW items then I'd be pushing for a refund tbh.
> @dg11786 said:
> Lol we are trying to get some points that we already earned back. If no one else had this or ANY issues would you guys still be saying “NG don’t do ittttttt” let’s do this then every guild gets 2 of their highest battles taken out to match what happened with us because everything that also happened to you guys also happened to us. We dealt with issues all day long losing keys and connection issues. THEN we also got 2 battles taken away. Points that were logged in for the other team and weren’t for us. I am mind blown how getting points that were mysteriously deleted out of our log would be such a issue for you guys lmao. I’m done speaking about this. If 2 weeks worth of challenge stars got taken away from yourself or the guild itself I would assume you guys would say something as well.
No one is saying it's an issue, except for you. Every response backs a refund, but it also says that maybe if one guild is getting refunded then maybe others should too...
To insinuate that every guild out there should be deducted points just because you did is absolutely ludicrous! You're not exactly covering yourself in glory here...
@Jaden yeah i say your a hypocrite. If you cared about your guild then you should have used your key with your guild so no you didn't do everything for your guild Usually by The end of the war we have zero keys left we coordinate and play very well together that's why we have a high score. We get mad, frustrated and want to give up and not play because we get booted once or twice but we take a screenshot and we continue to battle best we can. And yeah if I had my car stolen and I had photo evidence and proof that it was stolen I would want it returned. And if we had proof your car was stolen we would be behind you toget it back as well. We all dealt with the same login issues lost key issues getting booted issues, having to double play mission issues but we kept playing through it best we could. We even lost a battle because of key/login issues but we aren't crying about that. When we are ahead by a bunch we keep going 110%. We know points are what gets you to the next level. We know the next level is a higher multiplier. And Why does the 2 teams we battled get to keep what they earned when ours was erased? We're not speculating on what points we would have got if perfect scenario. We are talking about VP that we have undisputed evidence was there then not there.
I don't quite understand why AoS keeps going on about people not wanting them to be compensated. Literally everyone is saying the opposite, all people are saying is that not ONLY AoS should be conpensated, just because they are fanatic enough to record everything. Everyone, or almost everyone, was screwed by this.
I think AoS, as one of the top guilds in the game, could be a little less selfish and not only focus on their missing VP, but think about a solution that makes this right for everyone.
@Jaden yeah i say your a hypocrite. If you cared about your guild then you should have used your key with your guild so no you didn't do everything for your guild Usually by The end of the war we have zero keys left we coordinate and play very well together that's why we have a high score. We get mad, frustrated and want to give up and not play because we get booted once or twice but we take a screenshot and we continue to battle best we can. And yeah if I had my car stolen and I had photo evidence and proof that it was stolen I would want it returned. And if we had proof your car was stolen we would be behind you toget it back as well. We all dealt with the same login issues lost key issues getting booted issues, having to double play mission issues but we kept playing through it best we could. We even lost a battle because of key/login issues but we aren't crying about that. When we are ahead by a bunch we keep going 110%. We know points are what gets you to the next level. We know the next level is a higher multiplier. And Why does the 2 teams we battled get to keep what they earned when ours was erased? We're not speculating on what points we would have got if perfect scenario. We are talking about VP that we have undisputed evidence was there then not there.
There was no one else to play, either. Would you kindly get off of my back? I don't even know you, you don't know me. Just because I was there for one battle doesn't mean I am going to be your punching ball now just because you are frustrated.
Could you maybe stop already? It started getting annoying pages ago.
If it was for me, I would give you the VP right away. You have evidence, and I never said you had none. But it's not for me to decide. If you want to be mad at someone, be mad at NG.
I really don't understand why you are attacking me specifically... but yeah, whatever...
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@Lurker if you had your car stolen its your fault for not installing "the club" on your steering wheel therefore you should not get the insurance money for this car. Why did you leave the car where 5 dollar hookers roam??
@Jaden fyi that part about taking 23,000 points of other guilds was to help ppl see our point of view (wasn't meant to be taken seriously but hey whatever)[...]
I am talking about the request for a complete rollback of GW with everyone getting all their gas back but losing all their VP/RP.
Sorry if I didn't make that clear.
I'm all for you getting back your VP, but I am against everyone else losing theirs. But if it must be done, which I would kind of understand as leaderboards are compromised, I made a suggestion in the poll thread: open every tier and let everyone buy what they want, then reset - or reset VP but let everyone keep their RP. Plus keep what was already offered and promised.
That way I could at least see that it wouldn't discourage so many players.
It is certainly harder for many guilds to coordinate play time/battles, so for some a total reset and losing the RP they already earned might be enough to push them over the edge so they stop playing. Or it might end in a massive outrage.
Whatever gets decided, it is not up to me - nor do I not understand your frustration or point of view. I can see many different sides and I hope something will be decided that is fair.
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@Jaden please let it go buddy, clearly you can see our player don’t mean any ill will toward anyone. I’m sure you would defend your guild just as hard as the next person. These comments made aren’t out of anger toward any player but more so the situation. We don’t mean any more to NML than any other guild or player and never foster that idea. We are high competition guild for guild wars lol we don’t even care about challenge to be honest. You know some of us and have come to play with us, you know @Lurker isn’t that type of person. He is frustrated and angry like most are so before it continues to get worse all over the thread I ask we just chill and let it figure itself out. Close the thread would help too. 🤷♂️ Got to go to work happy challenge day.
@Jaden please let it go buddy, clearly you can see our player don’t mean any ill will toward anyone. I’m sure you would defend your guild just as hard as the next person. These comments made aren’t out of anger toward any player but more so the situation. We don’t mean any more to NML than any other guild or player and never foster that idea. We are high competition guild for guild wars lol we don’t even care about challenge to be honest. You know some of us and have come to play with us, you know @Lurker isn’t that type of person. He is frustrated and angry like most are so before it continues to get worse all over the thread I ask we just chill and let it figure itself out. Close the thread would help too. 🤷♂️ Got to go to work happy challenge day.
I don't have a problem with him defending the guild. I have a problem with him calling me a hypocrite, though, and with him insinuating that I don't care enough for my guild.
I will try to refrain from further commenting, but it's hard when someone who doesn't even know you attacks you for no good reason whatsoever. I'm not against your guild, why would I be? People I really like are in your guild, someone I consider a friend.
So yeah, I'm all for chilling and waiting - hope NG will find a solution that is fair for everyone.
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I really shouldn't post but... I honestly believe that AOS and any other guild who can prove that a whole battle score has been wiped should have those re-instated and then just carry on as normal. No extra VP for other guilds no rollbacks nothing else. Give back what was earned and leave it at that. We all had the same glitches and were all playing the same war. Sometimes we got lucky and didn't have any glitches sometimes we did and that was the same for everyone. This whole issue wouldn't have arisen if those two battles hadn't been wiped and no one would be calling for roll backs of extra vp or anything. I hope Kaz and NG can give back what was yours and that this whole sorry mess can be forgotten and everyone can move on!
We Started this challenge with chips on our shoulders because there was a lot of insinuation in the forums that we were cheating from painwalker and some others so yeah to have 2 battles erased on top of that is frustrating and suspicious. So yes the attacks were personal on us before this thread even opened.
@Lurker i feel it too bro, some people don’t take it serious and that’s fine too. We still have our AoS family and at the end of the day that is my biggest reward for playing this game. Bamf is down but not out bro and neither are you! So we stand and we keep fighting. Army Strong my brother 💪. This is my final forum comment. Good Luck to all with whatever you play.
We've tested a couple of options and we are considering your suggestions as well. All our tests failed (we tried to inject VP in many ways) BUT we prepared a new one and we are going to try tomorrow. Hopefully, that will be the one.
I don't have the answers about what's going to happen next, but once we do, I'll let you know (or maybe Vane will do that, ).
Just wanted to post something so you guys don't think we have abandoned this thread. :P
We are all good no reason to hate each other over us being annoyed over the mistakes made. 💪🏼 It’s none of the players or guilds faults. We probably should have only taken this to pm. Good luck to you all.
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I don't disagree with you. I just wondered how many other guilds where effected by the same issue and aren't even aware.
I have no idea if NG are able to resolve this matter or not. I think if they can they should be able to do it across the board.
Although my guild didn't have this issue we had every other issues that has been mentioned. We deliberately didn't go into battles when we realized there were problems and when we did after hearing things were now better only to discover things weren't working stilll. A very frustrating weekend for many.
Anyway, I understand your frustration and as you know I respect you as a player and on a personal level. I didn't mean to seem to take anything away from your frustration or that of your guild. I sincerely hope you all get can get past this bad time within the game and I look forward to hopefully meeting your team on the battlefield.
(Although you'll probably kick our arse)
Much Respect - TJS
> Reset the leaderboard for everyone. Make it fair back to 0 for everyone. As you said plenty were affected right? Ok keep reward points reset the board I want my 12 battles over, not 10 not half a battle not a battle giveth and then erased. Surely no one would be against a restart right? Seeing as “many” were affected? Make it fair, start over and give EVERYONE a fair shot. Poof problem solved.
Exactly this, I have zero problem with a restart. And as for AoS, you should get every RP that’s associated with your wars, logged or not, because you have the proof it happened
What I want is a fair GW, a chance to chase down top spot, without a reset, it’s not possible
I am the one and only Zee Black, climbed all the way to Level 75, part of SG Woot, the 3 million star guild
We were at war where everyone had casualties, some guilds more, some less, and only because you calculated that you are missing 23k VP you think you deserve to get them? What about other people, other guilds? I am sure someone lost even more then you.
We just won't bother calculating how much we could have because war was broken from the beginning to the end, And only fair thing to do is to REPEAT WHOLE WAR.
But ok, at least i had some solid drama to read and kill time before challenge, and i hope NG won't give happy end just to single guild in this one.
See you on the battlefield :-*
https://forums.nextgames.com/walkingdead/discussion/40263/wild-walking-is-actively-seeking-new-members#latest
As the duly elected (ish) representative of Lesser Guilds (TM) I'd like to flag that for many less hardcore guilds it's a major task to get people to turn up and play 2-3 GW a day (guild total, not each person) and so losing out on points and potentially rewards is a pretty big hit on morale and willingness to participate in future wars. People have families, jobs and... well, other stuff in their lives - if they turn up for a war then it's probably at the cost of doing something with the people they care about.
Resetting the season is not a good solution for those people - it's a kick in the face.
The vast, vast majority of players will not give a single solitary shit about the top 10 guild or player rankings. Probably not the top 50 or 100 either. They care that the time they put in is rewarded with something positive - either enjoyable gameplay or in game items. I previously suggested that the VP threshold for each tier is reduced by up to 25% so that everyone still has a chance of reaching the prize tier they would have if the first war had gone to plan... some will benefit more (because their wars weren't so disrupted) but no-one would lose out. Would this benefit AoS? Maybe not, but it would be good for 95%+ of the player base.
Why am I a hypocrite for accepting a generous invitation? The general player base didn't get something taken away from them because your guild was awesome and generous to as many people as they could have been. (And you couldn't have done it for all of my guild and they understand that - I played hard to earn as much as I could for my guild and to figure out what works best for us - so please don't say I do not care about my guild. They lost nothing because I jumped over for one battle - I had 5 gas left, that would have gotten us nowhere.)
Why am I a hypocrite for not wanting everyone to lose the VP and RP they have worked for?
Why am I a hypocrite for saying that I think that is what NG has done and taken into consideration?
I really hope your VP will get restored but I am totally against everyone else's progress to get taken away from them.
Some of you are practically saying that because your car got stolen you want everyone's car to be taken away. I would rather like to see your car returned to you.
I have also suggested something that might work and would probably not upset everyone else...
I will forever be grateful for having been invited to AOS to get Daryl tokens and chainsaw and I really respect you guys a lot. But this thing some of you are advocating for is a terrible idea in my opinion.
Also, I would very much prefer not to be personally attacked. I didn't do that to any of you, I just stated my opinion on the idea of a total GW rollback.
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That's all we are asking for the actual points we made not the potential points we could've made if it wasn't for the issues throughout the wars
If I spent actual $ on GW items then I'd be pushing for a refund tbh.
> Lol we are trying to get some points that we already earned back. If no one else had this or ANY issues would you guys still be saying “NG don’t do ittttttt” let’s do this then every guild gets 2 of their highest battles taken out to match what happened with us because everything that also happened to you guys also happened to us. We dealt with issues all day long losing keys and connection issues. THEN we also got 2 battles taken away. Points that were logged in for the other team and weren’t for us. I am mind blown how getting points that were mysteriously deleted out of our log would be such a issue for you guys lmao. I’m done speaking about this. If 2 weeks worth of challenge stars got taken away from yourself or the guild itself I would assume you guys would say something as well.
No one is saying it's an issue, except for you. Every response backs a refund, but it also says that maybe if one guild is getting refunded then maybe others should too...
To insinuate that every guild out there should be deducted points just because you did is absolutely ludicrous! You're not exactly covering yourself in glory here...
https://forums.nextgames.com/walkingdead/discussion/40263/wild-walking-is-actively-seeking-new-members"
I think AoS, as one of the top guilds in the game, could be a little less selfish and not only focus on their missing VP, but think about a solution that makes this right for everyone.
We all get your point and I don't think anyone has said you shouldn't get your lost vp back.
Your argument is will NG, not other players. Personally I think you're stooping to a low level going on to personally attack other forum members.
Anyhow, Goodluck getting the result you want from NG but you shouldn't be directing anger towards other players no matter what there point of view is.
Could you maybe stop already? It started getting annoying pages ago.
If it was for me, I would give you the VP right away. You have evidence, and I never said you had none. But it's not for me to decide. If you want to be mad at someone, be mad at NG.
I really don't understand why you are attacking me specifically... but yeah, whatever...
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Sorry if I didn't make that clear.
I'm all for you getting back your VP, but I am against everyone else losing theirs. But if it must be done, which I would kind of understand as leaderboards are compromised, I made a suggestion in the poll thread: open every tier and let everyone buy what they want, then reset - or reset VP but let everyone keep their RP. Plus keep what was already offered and promised.
That way I could at least see that it wouldn't discourage so many players.
It is certainly harder for many guilds to coordinate play time/battles, so for some a total reset and losing the RP they already earned might be enough to push them over the edge so they stop playing. Or it might end in a massive outrage.
Whatever gets decided, it is not up to me - nor do I not understand your frustration or point of view. I can see many different sides and I hope something will be decided that is fair.
Morbid Survivors are looking for you! If you are looking for a new guild, PM me.
I will try to refrain from further commenting, but it's hard when someone who doesn't even know you attacks you for no good reason whatsoever. I'm not against your guild, why would I be? People I really like are in your guild, someone I consider a friend.
So yeah, I'm all for chilling and waiting - hope NG will find a solution that is fair for everyone.
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We all friends through this community
Will somebody fu***** close this thread already...damn
Ghos Town time now
We've tested a couple of options and we are considering your suggestions as well. All our tests failed (we tried to inject VP in many ways) BUT we prepared a new one and we are going to try tomorrow. Hopefully, that will be the one.
I don't have the answers about what's going to happen next, but once we do, I'll let you know (or maybe Vane will do that,
Just wanted to post something so you guys don't think we have abandoned this thread. :P
It's real time here on the forum!!