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ATLAS-Z · February 25

It's been said that they have little control over the speed discrepancies between the various platforms which kind of makes sense.

But I've heard it suggested that they try a cool down after missions? 30 seconds?

EDIT - rather than 30 seconds after a mission, make a 2 minute timer start when you begin a mission. If you finish early, you have to wait, if you finish late, well too bad lol

@Shteevie is there any way that would work?

(I'm certain many Apple users will be hitting that dislike button, which is ok)

bladgier · February 25

I'm not an Apple user but I'm against that solution.

It's too radical and bias I think.

I can't think of a better or any way to deal with this at all honestly.

Mystique · February 25

I’m not disagreeing with this idea just because I have iOS

But, I am disagreeing with it because having to twiddle my thumbs for 30 seconds between each mission would drive me absolutely mad!!

Lol

ATLAS-Z · February 25

Go slower, take less damage lol

ATLAS-Z · February 25

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suzequeue · February 25

What if everyone was allowed to play only exactly 20 rounds. This would allow for slower play, different strategies, picking levels and weapons appropriately instead of playing like a mad person on cocaine.

jimmorrison369 · February 25

Whatever the solution, a solution we need imo.

It's not fun to see other people fly away just because their device is different.

ATLAS-Z · February 25

Yes, this game had turn based rpg style battles, turn based, for careful, thoughtful play... Speed play doesn't pair well with it anyway.

Cronus · February 25

If you want to counter speed play then Guild Wars should have a system similar to Challenge play where you get 1, 2 or 3 stars based on injury level (for ease of discussion let's use exact same criteria as used in Challenge for star determination). Then based on number of stars you get on that map it works as a VP multiplier. This would bring strategy back into it compared to slash and burn, kamikaze style of play.

Jenng · February 25

I like my GW’s the way it is. I’m iOS and frankly, if it’s an advantage, I’m an extremely poor excuse of an apple user. 😂 it bothers me not to have my teammates rack up points at neck snapping quickness while I’m choosing my team , browsing the walkers in the maps and deciding my map strategy. I would be slightly perturbed to have a cool down period during battle though, it’s war, there are no time outs in war.

Captainslayer · February 25

Coming from someone with the slowest device in my guild and always with the lowest pts in every war I disagree it's a guild war not a individual war especially since my guild members sacrifice pts doing the slower higher lvls for the good of the guild

Killdozer187_ · February 25

Let us use blue stacks on cpu's with T-10,000 Octo-Hex-Sextuplet- HolyChit processors.

Now that's a guild war baby.
1st team to fry a server wins!

suzequeue · February 25

I score more in challenges than some players in my guild who surpass me in GW. That being said, I am okay if they score more than me in GW if they have a faster phone (mine is a Samsung edge 7 that I uninstalled all unnecessary apps and yet it was super slow). This is their way of contributing in a way I cant and hey it's an overall effort. Before I get nitpicky complaining bout phone speeds, I would want the basic glitches like missing keys, low VP or RP fixed, being locked out of your guild. Unfortunately, GW is a LOT of fun even when you lose if you play a good with no problems. Let's just fix that first before we worry about changing the time etc

Firekid · February 26

Great post @suzequeue. Also the speed issue should go away again when we are back to limited gas (expect for those heros who pay over the odds to support our game) where going all out will not leave you enough gas to use all 6 keys effectively.

DrUnpleasant · February 26

Cronus said:
If you want to counter speed play then Guild Wars should have a system similar to Challenge play where you get 1, 2 or 3 stars based on injury level (for ease of discussion let's use exact same criteria as used in Challenge for star determination). Then based on number of stars you get on that map it works as a VP multiplier. This would bring strategy back into it compared to slash and burn, kamikaze style of play.

Good idea BUT you'd get a lot of kickback from lower level players (19-23) who would struggle in most of the final map sets and score less as a result. The game would bias top level players more than it does already.

WellyLuga · February 26

My initial suggestion was for a timer to level the playing field but with time I've come to realise that it's not a good suggestion. When it's a war, no one wants to sit in a sin bin waiting to play again, it's like the challenge 1 hour cool down that used to be in place. I would rather they make changes to the current scoring system to make it less of a speedy spam fest pay to win game mode.

Remove duplicate scores from players doing missions they know another player is doing. We should be rewarded for co-ordinating with our guild of who is doing what mission so gas isn't wasted. If you complete a mission after the timer is finished then you get some RP but no VP. Similarly, if you complete a mission despite being prompted that another player is currently playing then you should earn rewards but it shouldn't contribute to your score.

VP/RP should be tied to the level of the mission rather than the sector it's in, with RSL24 being the least and RSL34 the most. I think there should be rewards based on 3 categories. Category 1) 24-27 award 12-14 VP. Category 2) 28-31 award 16-18 VP. Category 3) 34+ award 24 VP. These are just estimates of what I think they should be awarded. A player with a slower device but stronger survivors who completes more of the tough missions should be able to earn a similar score as a player with a fast device doing easy no brain missions.

I have an S6 that's a couple years old but it still works pretty fast and can average 650-700 per battle, more if I selfishly do nothing but easy missions and leave the tough missions to the rest of my guild. I enjoy the game mode but as it stands it's a bit of a joke IMO, I'll play it as it's an easy, free way to rack up Rick tokens but it doesn't really determine the best/strongest guild in any way.

Firekid · February 26

@wellyluga, I agree 110% with this and @vane after the bug and glitch problem as have been sorted out this should be your number one priority.

ATLAS-Z · February 26

@wellyluga made a great point that I 100% agree with @Vane @Shteevie.

I'm one of 4-5 in my guild that can handle missions difficulty 33-34... But they are way slower if you don't want to get murdered. As such, they should be higher value RP/VP.

I have guys doubling my score clearing easy shit. That's not ok. I'm busting my balls on the heavy stuff for way less reward.

Tie the points awarded to the mission difficulty, this will help a lot. Not 100% fix, but definite help.

No_Name · March 1

As one of the 4-5 people clearing the 33/34 missions that @ATLAS-Z mentioned above, I just wanna agree 100% with the idea of increased RP/VP for those missions. Not only have the top GW scorers in my guild pulled literally 3× my score every time speed-clearing low level missions, but they can do it without spending much, if any gold on healing. Meanwhile, I'm spending 3-4-500 every battle. I don't mind doing my share of the heavy lifting since the whole guild wins in the end, but I should also be compensated proportionately for my effort, not coming in in the bottom 2-3 every time souly because of time consumption vs pay-out in the high levels. If anything, heavy-hitting players should be rewarded, NOT penalised.

ATLAS-Z · March 1

And we're both on Android, so we get boned double hard haha

Mystique · March 1

ATLAS-Z said:
And we're both on Android, so we get boned double hard haha

Guess that’s one example of when that’s actually a bad thing!! 🤷‍♀️😅🙈

ATLAS-Z · March 1

Hahaha @Mystique

I think I blushed a little for real ;-)

Seriously tho @shteevie @vane while you got the guild wars code already opened up in the OR maybe it's the perfect time to tweak those VP?

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