Challenge Change Proposal: Triple Rounds Out.

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  • vshield50vshield50 Member Posts: 1,983
    edited March 3
    > @leuchte123 said:
    > I go to 33 and 34. If you take the triple round away that's less stars for me.
    >
    > This is an absolute luxury issue and it should not be changed.

    And here it is! I was waiting on this... Lol

    OK fair point you technically lose stars (same for others playing those rounds) but I REALLY want to understand your position and rationale here.

    If the rewards were the same would you rather play to 10,000 individual stars to get the same rewards? Could have 20 rounds per lvl and require multiple boosters and dedicated round the clock playing for same rewards. That or make it unlimited lvl 32 rounds and the person who can play the most will get more stars.

    The rounds use to be 1 per lvl at one point. Can you explain how having 2 rounds per lvl is "an absolute luxury issue" as oppose to having 3 rounds? I ask because I GENUINELY want to understand your position here. As I understand more stars are what you are looking for without regard to rewards or the rest. Correct?

    I appreciate any clarification ☺️
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  • leuchte123leuchte123 Member Posts: 15
    >The rounds use to be 1 per lvl at one point. Can you explain how having 2 rounds per lvl is "an absolute >luxury issue" as oppose to having 3 rounds? I ask because I GENUINELY want to understand your >position here. As I understand more stars are what you are looking for without regard to rewards or the >rest. Correct?

    > I appreciate any clarification ☺️ ''


    I reach my own wall without booster and problems and without buying weapons.

    No matter how you turn it, there are less stars for me.

    And complete exaggeration is not the true argument.
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  • PandreqPandreq Member Posts: 216
    @leuchte123 - I think the point is that stars are a “means to an end”, namely earning rewards. As long as the rewards are adjusted accordingly, It doesn’t matter if they halve the stars, or multiply them by 10 - every player would be affected in the same way.

    If they gave out 10 stars instead of 1 in the current format, so you got 10, 20 or 30 for completing a level, would that make you or any other player happier? It wouldn’t make any difference. You would still have the same performance relative to everyone in your guild any beyond.
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  • Danski_46Danski_46 Member Posts: 739
    Idk if I'm thinking wrong here but I usually get to 36-37 so I will lose 1 round pass and thus start at a lower level. Those who get to 40 and above will lose more.
    romeo
  • Killdozer187_Killdozer187_ Member Posts: 385
    > @mack22 said:
    > I vote yes.
    > Star count doesn't matter, so long as the rewards are adjusted accordingly.
    >
    > I'm gonna see that PB every week though.

    That cat is going to get huge then rip off his owner's head for doing this to him. 😆
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  • JayZJayZ Member Posts: 3,198
    You are correct @Danski_46, but you still play fewer rounds overall :)
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  • vshield50vshield50 Member Posts: 1,983
    > @Pandreq said:
    > @leuchte123 - I think the point is that stars are a “means to an end”, namely earning rewards. As long as the rewards are adjusted accordingly, It doesn’t matter if they halve the stars, or multiply them by 10 - every player would be affected in the same way.
    >
    > If they gave out 10 stars instead of 1 in the current format, so you got 10, 20 or 30 for completing a level, would that make you or any other player happier? It wouldn’t make any difference. You would still have the same performance relative to everyone in your guild any beyond.

    @Pandreq ,

    But I will be getting less stars....🤗🤗🤗
    PandreqJaden
  • JenngJenng Member Posts: 3,229
    I remember! @zbot


    Aw! The total domination days of my youth.

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  • vshield50vshield50 Member Posts: 1,983
    edited March 3
    The challenge getting too difficult too quickly is valid and understandable to me. I was a bit fuzzy on what "an absolute luxury issue" was but I think I get it now. Thought maybe it was about just seeing a larger number of stars regardless of the circumstances and perhaps I took it as a stab to those who wanted reduced grind but I think I get it now.

    Either way nobody is right or wrong it really comes down to a preference. Just wanted to know if I was agreeing or disagreeing but seems like if it is a difficultly argument I can understand and agree. If it is a star count only argument I disagree with it being an absolute luxury issue.

    My bad on the perceived negative tone. I really was trying to understand so I could properly respond but I mucked it up...

    It has been a bad forum week for me. I'll bounce back and try being more understanding of other peoples feelings.

    And BTW I remember when 400 stars was a milestone. 1k too but now it is a minimum in a lot of guilds! Lmao
    leuchte123
  • PandreqPandreq Member Posts: 216
    Apologies if I came across as being negative. Personally, I’m in favour of reducing the challenge to free up more time to play other game modes (example, I spend all my gas on the challenge, so only play distance when we get a free booster, would like to do it more). That’s just my opinion, but I know not everybody is of the same opinion, and I do respect different opinions. So - sorry if I didn’t get that across very well
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  • vshield50vshield50 Member Posts: 1,983
    I'm good with you taking the heat for this one so I agree @Pandreq 😂😂😂

    Just kidding. A good balance like zbot was saying is best. I am thinking that adjusting how we can earn and use Round Passes (as @Bill_ZRT had mentioned before) would provide the best balance but this is a good step in the right direction (IMO)!
  • PandreqPandreq Member Posts: 216
    Yes it’s all on me @vshield50 🤣🤣

    I would really like to see the challenge reworked totally. Maybe have the option to earn four or five stars on a map, by going in with two or one survivors. Might make the easy early levels a bit more interesting. Or some extra bonus stars on each round for completing a map with certain conditions (for example, use three warriors).

    But whatever, that’s just my opinion. Will be interesting to see how it develops
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  • huskersoxfanhuskersoxfan Member Posts: 214
    Pandreq said:

    Yes it’s all on me @vshield50 🤣🤣



    I would really like to see the challenge reworked totally. Maybe have the option to earn four or five stars on a map, by going in with two or one survivors. Might make the easy early levels a bit more interesting. Or some extra bonus stars on each round for completing a map with certain conditions (for example, use three warriors).



    But whatever, that’s just my opinion. Will be interesting to see how it develops

    Incredible idea...

    There are so many great ideas brought forward when the discussion turns away from an “us vs. them” theme.

    For many, it’s not the stars, it is just about being able to enjoy the game.

    Good luck slaying out there!


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  • msapaevmsapaev Member Posts: 480
    So @Vane, I hope you'll somehow announce a decision officially :)

    As for me, I like it.
  • TroublemakerTroublemaker Member Posts: 1,236
    I think this is placebo effect all over again.

    Less rounds, less passes, we will be starting earlier and playing more or less the same as ever.

    I wish NG would step up and say loud and clear that there will never be a "fix" to this instead of tricking us over and over.
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  • ATLAS-ZATLAS-Z Member Posts: 2,717
    @Vane I noticed this upcoming challenge has Fish in a Barrel and Archives.

    Pretty please, no matter how many people whine and bitch, KEEP THESE MISSIONS.

    I like them.

    Thanks!

    Ps - Charged assaults always welcome ;-)
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  • FirekidFirekid Member Posts: 1,823
    @Vane so are we going live with these changes this week then?
  • WellyLugaWellyLuga Member Posts: 1,809
    > @ATLAS-Z said:
    > @Vane I noticed this upcoming challenge has Fish in a Barrel and Archives.
    >
    > Pretty please, no matter how many people whine and bitch, KEEP THESE MISSIONS.
    >
    > I like them.
    >
    > Thanks!
    >
    > Ps - Charged assaults always welcome ;-)

    I agree! Remove the .3 rounds the same week as having Archives, Fish in a barrel and behind corners. What a way to really cut the grind down!
  • JayZJayZ Member Posts: 3,198
    @ATLAS-Z I finally got a good Revenge Assault and dumped a ton of tokens into him. He also got leveled up to level 25 over the weekend, so I can't wait for Fish in a Barrel and Archives :)
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  • JackBauerJackBauer Member Posts: 1,550
    Next week then double rounds out please.
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