Badgets Reroll

Hi, 

@Fluxxx Only can change, Set, bonus and slot, correct?

We cant change the type? Example: Damage change to Critical Damage?

Thanks!
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  • FluxxxFluxxx Community Manager Posts: 1,042
    You can change only those three, rerolling the type of badge is not possible.
    Mojakughost_pepper
  • mimicamimica Member Posts: 368
    @Fluxxx I know we'll find out tomorrow either way but in others post you've been asked about how the reroll will work and the costs, if you could give us a breakdown of that info would be appreciated. If we reroll a badge with trait bonus, will randomly change to other trait bonus or will have in count the whole pool of options class / hero / traits or how that will work? How the costs scale? Guess we can assume that if we try to reroll the slot and set and we don't get the one we want and reroll again we can receive the one that we started with, example we're in slot 1, reroll go to slot 4, we reroll again and we could end in slot 1 (because is part of the pool of options in your 2nd try), correct? 
    3vilrinemir
  • euchideuchid Member Posts: 275
    I hope the slot wont stay odd or even.
  • nadecirnadecir Member Posts: 271
    There are many possible bonus badge conditions, given the number of heroes. If the reroll for the bonus conditions allows the heroes, then it will be almost a waste of time to reroll badge conditions.

    Hopefully, NG limited the badge bonus condition rerolls to traits only.  This would make the bonus rerolls similar in chances to the set and slot rerolls.  Without limiting it to traits, or more choices after bonus condition rerolls, not many players will bother with bonus condition rerolls.

    @Fluxxx Please enlighten us more on the badge rerolls.  
  • ghost_pepperghost_pepper Member Posts: 520
    edited October 2020
    Fluxxx said:
    You can change only those three, rerolling the type of badge is not possible.
    Extrapolating from what @Fluxxx says

    5 badge shapes/sets
    6 badge slots (odds and evens)
    Far more bonus groups than anyone should play around with.

    Because only trait bonuses make the badges unicorns, it's not worth throwing away reroll tokens on this. Will rerolling a bonus to a nonbonus increase the numeric value as it is supposed to? I'm not going to test this. Avoid it! Rerolling bonuses will probably prove to be a total waste of tokens. 

    As for rerolling for 1 in 4 shape/set and rerolling for 1 in 5 slot, this will be helpful when a player has double or even triplicate of specific unicorn badges for both set and slot.

    If players are allowed to pick from two options, and declining both options returns half tokens (just like reroll system with hero tokens and traits), then this will be a useful system. If it's entirely random and there is no choice, this should be a little used system. It will fail players more than help them.

    Let's see how it starts out.
  • marroba2000marroba2000 Member Posts: 232
    If you can’t reroll a badge with no bonus condition, I guess you can’t receive a no bonus after the reroll. Or @Fluxxx is in the cast of the next Despicable Me. 😀
    dalmer
  • FluxxxFluxxx Community Manager Posts: 1,042
    You can reroll to any bonus condition to any other bonus condition (trait, hero, class).

    Something that I didn't mention, is that Badge Rerolls don't work exactly like Trait rerolls - Once you reroll a badge part (slot/set/condition), you don't have to option to keep the old or take the new, the change just happens right away - Essentially the way it works in the game, is that when you reroll a badge, you're creating a brand new badge (though the unrerolled parts stay the same). Of course, you won't get what you just rerolled again, but other than that the options are not limited.


  • CrocodileCrocodile Member Posts: 870
    Fluxxx said:
    You can reroll to any bonus condition to any other bonus condition (trait, hero, class).

    Something that I didn't mention, is that Badge Rerolls don't work exactly like Trait rerolls - Once you reroll a badge part (slot/set/condition), you don't have to option to keep the old or take the new, the change just happens right away - Essentially the way it works in the game, is that when you reroll a badge, you're creating a brand new badge (though the unrerolled parts stay the same). Of course, you won't get what you just rerolled again, but other than that the options are not limited.



    guess: if you reroll the flat badge, will it become a percentage?
    JasonZzombieornottobe
  • kmrkmr Member Posts: 139
    @Fluxxx
    Any chance to transfer (reroll) flat badges into percentage badges in the future?
    Or Scrap badges for a single component (same rarity) instead of low amount of XP?
    JasonZzombieornottobe
  • JayZJayZ Member Posts: 3,650
    Crocodile said:
    Fluxxx said:
    You can reroll to any bonus condition to any other bonus condition (trait, hero, class).

    Something that I didn't mention, is that Badge Rerolls don't work exactly like Trait rerolls - Once you reroll a badge part (slot/set/condition), you don't have to option to keep the old or take the new, the change just happens right away - Essentially the way it works in the game, is that when you reroll a badge, you're creating a brand new badge (though the unrerolled parts stay the same). Of course, you won't get what you just rerolled again, but other than that the options are not limited.



    guess: if you reroll the flat badge, will it become a percentage?
    Wow, great question. Didn't even think about all of the crappy flat badges I've hoarded.
    JasonZ
  • WellyLugaWellyLuga Member Posts: 2,746
    Fluxxx has already mentioned in this thread that it is not possible to roll the type of badge, only the set, spot and bonus.
    jimmorrison369
  • FirekidFirekid Member Posts: 2,740
    I’m more excited about rerolling slots. So many duplicated decent badges in the same slot on the same shape. 
    andy75Crocodilejimmorrison369
  • GothgulGothgul Member Posts: 236
    That's the best ROI, changing from an even to an odd or vice versa, 50% chance to succeed. For a specific slot, set, or bonus, I agree there are going to be too many chances for no improvement, and unless the cost is only a few tokens, it will just be prohibitively expensive to fix badges this way. 
  • CrocodileCrocodile Member Posts: 870
    WellyLuga said:
    Fluxxx has already mentioned in this thread that it is not possible to roll the type of badge, only the set, spot and bonus.
    yeah but also he mentioned that when you reroll it created new brand badge but now we can't create brand new flat badge so my guess was it can be rerolled in to percentage. 
  • AlexKomAlexKom Member Posts: 49
    I suggested NG to go this way.  But there was no casino in my system.  I developed a table that made it possible to make the icons the way the player wants.  I did this to help the game develop.  I wanted more people to play this game.  But people often leave after they have very bad ones instead of good ones.  I also suggested changing the slot and position of the icon for gold.  It could also help the game and the players.
  • AlexKomAlexKom Member Posts: 49
    This is the system I proposed.
  • CrocodileCrocodile Member Posts: 870
    edited October 2020
    be careful badges reroll havy bagged if you try to reroll set it can reroll  your bonus too
    Paste
  • Andy_bAndy_b Member Posts: 107
    We need lots more info regarding this NG as stated above
  • 3vilrine3vilrine Member Posts: 239
    Crocodile said:
    be careful badges reroll havy bagged if you try to reroll set it can reroll  your bonus too
    Maybe give a bit more detailed explanation of what happend exactly.
    What you pressed?
    What Badge you rerolled?
    Which Bonus appeared?
    What was the Set etc...

  • CrocodileCrocodile Member Posts: 870
    3vilrine said:
    Crocodile said:
    be careful badges reroll havy bagged if you try to reroll set it can reroll  your bonus too
    Maybe give a bit more detailed explanation of what happend exactly.
    What you pressed?
    What Badge you rerolled?
    Which Bonus appeared?
    What was the Set etc...

    video in discord
  • CrocodileCrocodile Member Posts: 870
    press Set it reroll set and bonus too
  • NovellNovell Member Posts: 199
    Also you need 15 tokens to reroll first time. 2nd time you need 20 tokens.
    Why the hell so much tokens? I hate it! I rerolled a DR Badge with shooter condition, cost 15 tokens and i got hunter condition. Great job to burn tokens. Thank you for nothing!
    Proud member of WEIRDnDEADLY
    TCBRITO
  • CrocodileCrocodile Member Posts: 870
    whit Slot same bug 

    DON'T USE IT BEFORE FIX
    TCBRITO
  • 3vilrine3vilrine Member Posts: 239
    edited October 2020
    Novell said:
    Also you need 15 tokens to reroll first time. 2nd time you need 20 tokens.
    Why the hell so much tokens? I hate it! I rerolled a DR Badge with shooter condition, cost 15 tokens and i got hunter condition. Great job to burn tokens. Thank you for nothing!

    Can you read dude? I heard reading the patchnotes helps omg. It was clear that the amount of reroll token you need is increasing. And starting with 15 is less then you could have expected.
    The problem right now is that changing Set or Slot is also changing the Bonus.

  • ShayHaShayHa Member Posts: 319
    Why when rerolling set the second try I get the first set I had?
    Why bonus changes when I try change the set?
  • SuperheroSuperhero Member Posts: 239
    Novell said:
    Raising costs is not my problem dude! Yes i read the notes! I hoped it's start by 5 and then raise by 1 or 2 per roll. Not starting by 15 and raise by 5 per roll. Your problem can be fixed with an update. My problem will stay the same! Dude!

    I´m with you. The costs are way to high.

    Let´s hope we get some reroll tokens in the after mission crates instead of the 1, 2 and 3* rubbish.
    CrocodileNovellTCBRITO
  • FluxxxFluxxx Community Manager Posts: 1,042
    edited October 2020
    ShayHa said:
    Why when rerolling set the second try I get the first set I had?
    Why bonus changes when I try change the set?
    Your roll only excludes the set that you just had. As I said in the above comment: 

     you won't get what you just rerolled again, but other than that the options are not limited.

    Do you have a video of this? We'll going to look into this right away.
  • SuperheroSuperhero Member Posts: 239
    @Fluxxx

    Will the droprate on reroll tokens increase in any way?

    Otherwise I won´t reroll any badge for sure. Won´t wasting my tokens as I have to reroll a lot of heros as well.
    ShadowWalkerAlexKom
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