Nation Wars 5 - December 2/2020

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  • Vladimir_TopVladimir_Top Member Posts: 28
    Bans instead of answering questions are a great choice. At least explain why Crockrdil was banned? This situation looks bad.
    AlexKomHellJesus_MikhailSennin3vilrine[Deleted User]
  • DrunkenDrunken Member Posts: 1,726
    Per forum rules any ban discussion isn’t allowed, discussing cheating isn’t allowed. It’s a double standard in this post as this isn’t a NG based “event” like they always claim. So therefore discussion of it shouldn’t have any bearing on “ NG forum” 

    Some didn’t play for this reason. But yet still supported NG by buying bundles... even if they didn’t like them.

    😉
    3vilrinemirmiori199373
  • _Lily__Lily_ Member Posts: 662
    Zetsuboi said:

    On a personal note I would like to add that the previous NW leader for Russia who, upon his arrival, told he did not cheat on principle, was shortly thereafter banned for life making Russia’s statements look particularly cynical.

    It is therefore so that Russia has neither the factual, the "legal" or the morale highground in this matter. All they have is inaccurate statements and claims.



    judge the whole nation by one person. you're a genius. By the way, cheaters were found in your team, correct me if I'm wrong.
    As you are bringing forward allegations that this particular team had cheaters on their roster, I would like to think that you have something more than your words to substantiate your claims. Without that what you're saying are just empty words. Correct me if I am wrong. 
    Zetsuboi
  • ZetsuboiZetsuboi Member Posts: 10
    _Lily_ said:
    Zetsuboi said:

    On a personal note I would like to add that the previous NW leader for Russia who, upon his arrival, told he did not cheat on principle, was shortly thereafter banned for life making Russia’s statements look particularly cynical.

    It is therefore so that Russia has neither the factual, the "legal" or the morale highground in this matter. All they have is inaccurate statements and claims.



    judge the whole nation by one person. you're a genius. By the way, cheaters were found in your team, correct me if I'm wrong.
    As you are bringing forward allegations that this particular team had cheaters on their roster, I would like to think that you have something more than your words to substantiate your claims. Without that what you're saying are just empty words. Correct me if I am wrong. 

    that's what I wanted to say. All accusations in words. Why do I see deleted posts and closed topics? if these are just words, why are they so afraid? As an NW member, I am sad to see such a situation. And by the way, I was called at the last moment the day before the start of NW. Russia put up unprepared players like me in order to comply with all the rules and initially stood on this. Before, during and after NW.
    HellJesus_Senninmiori199373
  • FirekidFirekid Member Posts: 2,942
    Interesting to see how well Russia perform when they field a fair team and take out the cheaters 😈. 
    Seriously though. As long as none of the players identified as cheaters scores are counted in the final count then I don’t see to much of a problem. If anything it would have demoralised and caused issues in those teams which would have affected their score as well. 
    I think we can all agree though that Nation Wars is done and should not be run again. 
    kinko
  • Vladimir_TopVladimir_Top Member Posts: 28
    edited December 2020
    Firekid said:
    Interesting to see how well Russia perform when they field a fair team and take out the cheaters 😈. 
    Seriously though. As long as none of the players identified as cheaters scores are counted in the final count then I don’t see to much of a problem. If anything it would have demoralised and caused issues in those teams which would have affected their score as well. 
    I think we can all agree though that Nation Wars is done and should not be run again. 
    So it was decided not just to remove the points of the banned players, but to replace them with a virtual player. This is a player of the same nationality as the team, but he is not present in the guild. That is, it was possible to remove the offending player and take, for example, # 1 of the national top. Then there was talk that you can take someone whose number of points is not more than that of the offender. But this is a strange decision, in the last war of nations for violations of player his scores is out of total score. I think that if there were not so many offending teams, this rule would have been applied this time too.
    Zetsuboimiori1993733vilrineSennin
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    3vilrine
  • BillbamBillbam Member Posts: 1,144
    Results are out and apparently only one cheater in a team not involved in the standings.
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  • CABRONAZO_ARGCABRONAZO_ARG Member Posts: 21
    edited December 2020
    marroba2000 said:
    A) Team Leaders can’t control the intentions of their players, and obviously can’t do the event organizers. There are situations that explode in the face during the war. 
    B ) The other 19 players are inocent victims, so the act of a dirty player, can’t affect the hope other guys. I think the replacement is the best option. 
    C) The players (let me generalize) are unpredictable people. It’s a game that collect individual players more than team players. Everybody knows a guy in GW who doesn’t want to do the best for the guild. With this material, if this guys can cheat NG, can lie to their own Team Leader, how two people could manage this dirty bunch of fellow scammers. 
    D) Finally, hundred of players cheat and other thousand blame. But nobody wants to help the organizers. The idea is good, and I’m happy with this event. We don’t need more judges, need more transparency. 
    Te resumo facilmente,
    A) Ese “lider” infligia la norma 8! Habia sido baneado
    B ) Eso por dejar que alguien baneado decida por el bien del equipo y no cite a los mejores, sino a sus amigos y al resto los expulse
    C) Por algo se realizaba clasificacion, no solo para armar una representacion con amigos y dejar afuera varios de los que ingresaban facilmente entre los 20
    D) Muchos hacen trampas, y el “lider” por llamarlo asi al payaso ese, manejo dos equipos segun su gusto, uno con sus amigos y en el otro donde jugaste vos, recorda que ni clasificarias si habrian jugado los que realmente armaron ese equipo y luego ese “lider supremo” hizo expulsar a los verdaderos representantes de dicho team.

    E) La seguiran chupando 🤷‍♂️
  • marroba2000marroba2000 Member Posts: 246
    marroba2000 said:
    Te resumo facilmente,
    A) Ese “lider” infligia la norma 8! Habia sido baneado
    B ) Eso por dejar que alguien baneado decida por el bien del equipo y no cite a los mejores, sino a sus amigos y al resto los expulse
    C) Por algo se realizaba clasificacion, no solo para armar una representacion con amigos y dejar afuera varios de los que ingresaban facilmente entre los 20
    D) Muchos hacen trampas, y el “lider” por llamarlo asi al payaso ese, manejo dos equipos segun su gusto, uno con sus amigos y en el otro donde jugaste vos, recorda que ni clasificarias si habrian jugado los que realmente armaron ese equipo y luego ese “lider supremo” hizo expulsar a los verdaderos representantes de dicho team.

    E) La seguiran chupando 🤷‍♂️
    This guy, ladies and gentlemen, is the real leader of something called “La revolución”, made basically cheating players from other guilds. This is bad but not illegal. 
    Other thing is they Make fun of you every time they take one of your players. 
    Because these guys are twisted. So, when NW was close to begin they want to qualify. 
    If you ask them, they believe in The Man, an evil guy who’s behind everything. They don’t realize they fucked every people in the Latin part of this game. 
    So, they were rejected. I don’t know the reason said but is because they are psycho people. 
    So, this guy sent one of their flying monkeys to sabotage the Mexican Team, (6 stars and fly away), and try to do the same with the Team Hispano, but their terrorist was discovered and rejected. 
    So, Cabronazo, you did 3 good things for me. 
    1) sabotage the Mexican and my team ended up of them. 
    2) Disturb the qualy and allowed a regular player like me to participate and
    3) Make the unión of Latin guilds more possible. This time, in El Origen are players that never agreed to come. 
    But I don’t thank you for any of this achievements. Because is the same thing you claim not be blamed when your bunch do something wrong. You are the scorpion of the fable. It’s in your nature. 
  • KarajocaKarajoca Member Posts: 366
    And after example like @marroba2000 pointed put someone come here and say how disqualification is solution to everything.
    Some teams are sabotaged and couldn't do anything to stop what happened. 

    I am not defending individuals who caused this, most of their usernames are easy discovered by comparing original team posters and new ones, but forums are not a place to say anything more about that.

    I just want once again to say i ADMIRE all the people who stepped up, organized this or lead teams in already ruined and unstable competition, and solutions decided are ONLY POSSIBLE AND FAIR AND DIDN'T AFFECT RESULTS OR GIVE ADVANTAGE TO ANY TEAM.

    So many people just couldn't wait something bad to happen so they can come here, blame, point fingers and enjoy the disaster. Broken relations inside nation teams or between them are just sick, so best players rather take breaks or go to "bahamas" then participate.
    Time to move on from this, close the chapter and find some other way to entertain. Just no nations involved... no nation wars when real wars happen inside of nations 
    _Lily_
  • Vladimir_TopVladimir_Top Member Posts: 28
    Karajoca said:
    And after example like @marroba2000 pointed put someone come here and say how disqualification is solution to everything.
    Some teams are sabotaged and couldn't do anything to stop what happened. 

    I am not defending individuals who caused this, most of their usernames are easy discovered by comparing original team posters and new ones, but forums are not a place to say anything more about that.

    I just want once again to say i ADMIRE all the people who stepped up, organized this or lead teams in already ruined and unstable competition, and solutions decided are ONLY POSSIBLE AND FAIR AND DIDN'T AFFECT RESULTS OR GIVE ADVANTAGE TO ANY TEAM.

    So many people just couldn't wait something bad to happen so they can come here, blame, point fingers and enjoy the disaster. Broken relations inside nation teams or between them are just sick, so best players rather take breaks or go to "bahamas" then participate.
    Time to move on from this, close the chapter and find some other way to entertain. Just no nations involved... no nation wars when real wars happen inside of nations 
    Yes you are right. Each person has his own truth and he will defend it. Unfortunately, a constructive dialogue did not work out, but only mutual accusations of deception. In any case, everyone remained unconvinced. :(. I hope that the organizers of future events will take into account the mistakes and try to prevent them in the future. But I'm afraid the team from Russia will not take part in them.
    miori199373
  • CABRONAZO_ARGCABRONAZO_ARG Member Posts: 21
    edited December 2020

    E) La seguiran chupando 🤷‍♂️

    Bla bla bla, te sugiero que veas primero toda la historia, ya que se nota que no tenes la put. Idea.
    Ante una acción hay una reacción, si no tienen huevos para aguantarla no lo hubieran arrancado, decile a quesito
    Segundo, lee bien el punto E) asi te queda claro.
    tercero y va el tercero...
    Cuarto te comento yo estoy jubilado ya hace rato
    Quinto favor de antes de hablar de mi o de alguno del grupo donde pertenesco estar sobrio y no borracho
    Sexto puto el que lee
    Septimo defende una postura, hace un mes los defenestrabas a los del origen y ahora los amas?
    Octavo Sos la zorrita de los salta muros? No estabas en otro equipo como relleno vos?
    Noveno te dije que estes sobrio cuando escribas

    besos en las nalgas

    te recuerdo lee bien el punto E 😏 y luego apaga el movil, afuera hay una vida real hermano 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️
  • marroba2000marroba2000 Member Posts: 246
    Bla bla bla, te sugiero que veas primero toda la historia, ya que se nota que no tenes la put. Idea.
    Ante una acción hay una reacción, si no tienen huevos para aguantarla no lo hubieran arrancado, decile a quesito
    Segundo, lee bien el punto E) asi te queda claro.
    tercero y va el tercero...
    Cuarto te comento yo estoy jubilado ya hace rato
    Quinto favor de antes de hablar de mi o de alguno del grupo donde pertenesco estar sobrio y no borracho
    Sexto puto el que lee
    Septimo defende una postura, hace un mes los defenestrabas a los del origen y ahora los amas?
    Octavo Sos la zorrita de los salta muros? No estabas en otro equipo como relleno vos?
    Noveno te dije que estes sobrio cuando escribas

    besos en las nalgas

    te recuerdo lee bien el punto E 😏 y luego apaga el movil, afuera hay una vida real hermano 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️
    Keep lying, it's your nature.

    Anything you say is false. And you know I tell everything I think. You guys are typical bullies. When you hurt somebody, you smile. When somebody hurts to, the world is unfair.

    Rejected from 3 teams because of your previous behaviour.
    Even you, so anarchist and revolutionary, need to understand my previous advice, I know you're not all the same (you're not the exception, you really are a piece of art) but for everybody else, any guy from La Revolución is part of the people who sabotaged a Nation Wars. This is the medal you won for your boys and girls.
    The good thing is, following your way of think, even the innocent are guilty becauou can se they trust in a evil Leader,
    So, yo can explain this to all of your people. They love you.
    And you go back to your FB and continue talking about me and the other bad people. At there, you and your lie-tenants can repeat you´re the best.
    Don´t look the records, you are under in Challenges, vanished in GW, and out in NW. But sure, you`re the best. Nobody is like you.
  • WhoareyouWhoareyou Member Posts: 87
    I think it funny that team Russian thinks they could play NW6
    after bullying two girl that organised NW that didn’t get paid to do it
    did it out of love for the game and the event did it in there own time and you bullied them till they quit hope that makes you feel like a big man now

    you think you could have any chance of playing NW6 sorry to tell you guys that’s going to be a hell no your behaviour has been shameful and disgusting sharing private chat info tacking pictures of private chat messages and sharing them on other chats and spreading failures rumours of players that have cheated disgusting act 

    you preach a ban is a ban so then why are there Russian players buying retiring players accounts if there banned then there banned in your view 

    if you had followed the fair play rules from the start that you now preach from the hill tops maybe you could Field your best team not a Second rate team I know a lot of Russian players and they share my views that there are a few players that are out to just cause trouble and destroy NW
    sad news it didn’t happen you lose I would say see you in NW6 but you won’t be there 
    Killingtime 
    Mario_Romero
  • Vladimir_TopVladimir_Top Member Posts: 28
    When was the last time the wars of nations ended without scandal? Negativity is enough for most people in real life, what is the point of getting it instead of enjoying the game? This was one of the reasons why many top players refused to participate. And it's not up to you to decide whether the Russian team will participate in the next games. Well, where are the results of the national wars # 5? For what reason do I not see the winners of the most honest national wars? Aren't you tired of shifting all the responsibility for erroneous decisions onto evil and deceitful Russians?
    miori199373HellJesus_Леушка
  • CABRONAZO_ARGCABRONAZO_ARG Member Posts: 21
    Keep lying, it's your nature.

    Anything you say is false. And you know I tell everything I think. You guys are typical bullies. When you hurt somebody, you smile. When somebody hurts to, the world is unfair.

    Rejected from 3 teams because of your previous behaviour.
    Even you, so anarchist and revolutionary, need to understand my previous advice, I know you're not all the same (you're not the exception, you really are a piece of art) but for everybody else, any guy from La Revolución is part of the people who sabotaged a Nation Wars. This is the medal you won for your boys and girls.
    The good thing is, following your way of think, even the innocent are guilty becauou can se they trust in a evil Leader,
    So, yo can explain this to all of your people. They love you.
    And you go back to your FB and continue talking about me and the other bad people. At there, you and your lie-tenants can repeat you´re the best.
    Don´t look the records, you are under in Challenges, vanished in GW, and out in NW. But sure, you`re the best. Nobody is like you.

    Te aclaro,
    Yo nunca miento solo digo la verdad y la verdad duele se ve!
    No somos los tipicos matones, somos exploradores que clavamos el puñal y bailamos arriba del que cae, y si uno muestro cae lo levantamos y bailamos con el y nunca lo dejamos solo, ya que somos un grupo de amigos
    Vos no estas para dar concejos ni enseñanzas, por algo nadie te pregunta o te los pide.
    Ten algo siempre presente, se ve que se te olvida, es un juego de movil, y cada uno juega su juego o me diras que hay una regla a seguir? 🤣🤣🤣
    Toda la gente que me conoce me adora ya que me conoce, y siempre les fui fiel, creo que vos y “con los que defenestrabas y ahora acatas sus ordenes” no pueden decir lo mismo, te repito la Verdad Duele.
    y por ultimo, hace tiempo que solo juego desde que te enseñe a jugar a vos que ya estaba jubilado del juego, desde que esa gente malvada o matona que llamas eran los que te motivaron a aprender y superarte dia a dia. Perdon si soy insistente en este punto, pero como te dije, yo no miento, solo digo la verdad y esta duele.
    Nadie habla mal de ti ya que no existes pero como todos saben, eres un excelente mensajero 😉

    Recorda el punto E, como dijo D10S la van a seguir chupando! 

    Y terminala que quedas como lo que sos, un payaso!

    Sigamos hablando de la falta de respeto y malisima organización de esta ultima vergüenza de NW.
    Esperemos que este sea el fondo y que si es que lo hay, lo dudo, la próxima sepan realizarlo corrigiendo todos los horrores de esta 

  • 3vilrine3vilrine Member Posts: 259
    Karajoca said:
    And after example like @marroba2000 pointed put someone come here and say how disqualification is solution to everything.
    Some teams are sabotaged and couldn't do anything to stop what happened. 

    I am not defending individuals who caused this, most of their usernames are easy discovered by comparing original team posters and new ones, but forums are not a place to say anything more about that.

    I just want once again to say i ADMIRE all the people who stepped up, organized this or lead teams in already ruined and unstable competition, and solutions decided are ONLY POSSIBLE AND FAIR AND DIDN'T AFFECT RESULTS OR GIVE ADVANTAGE TO ANY TEAM.

    So many people just couldn't wait something bad to happen so they can come here, blame, point fingers and enjoy the disaster. Broken relations inside nation teams or between them are just sick, so best players rather take breaks or go to "bahamas" then participate.
    Time to move on from this, close the chapter and find some other way to entertain. Just no nations involved... no nation wars when real wars happen inside of nations 
    Yes you are right. Each person has his own truth and he will defend it. Unfortunately, a constructive dialogue did not work out, but only mutual accusations of deception. In any case, everyone remained unconvinced. :(. I hope that the organizers of future events will take into account the mistakes and try to prevent them in the future. But I'm afraid the team from Russia will not take part in them.

    You will be not missed for sure..
  • WhoareyouWhoareyou Member Posts: 87
    if you were still in the leader chat you would of seen were teams finished 

    going forward having a time frame for teams to hand there list in 2 weeks before it starts so lists can be checked and changed if needed this needs to be must
    handing your list 2 days before just won’t work there’s no time to check lists or move players 

    getting NG more involved in the event if that’s helping out with rules or offering rewards to get the best players playing because it’s the best vs the best not he best vs watered down teams 

    And yes rules will need to be clarified or strengthened you will never have rules for every out come or situation as we have seen this NW

    changing the rules on banned players maybe if you are banned it’s only for a season or 1 year for the first offence then if you are banned from NW after that you are banned from NW for life 
    it gives banned players away to redeem them self’s in the community 

    so going forward everyone will need to work together to build a better NW for everyone 





    Killingtime 
  • marroba2000marroba2000 Member Posts: 246
    Keep lying, it's your nature.
    No somos los tipicos matones, somos exploradores que clavamos el puñal y bailamos arriba del que cae, y si uno muestro cae lo levantamos y bailamos con el y nunca lo dejamos solo, ya que somos un grupo de amigos
    . Acabás de definir la conducta de rugbier veraniego que mata a patadas en banda y no te considerás un matón?
    Es increíble cómo negás la realidad. 

    Vos no estas para dar concejos ni enseñanzas, por algo nadie te pregunta o te los pide.
    . Qué raro. Por una planilla que traduje hasta de tu clan me pidieron ayuda.

    Ten algo siempre presente, se ve que se te olvida, es un juego de movil, y cada uno juega su juego o me diras que hay una regla a seguir? 🤣🤣🤣
    . Una vida virtual te permite continuar siendo quien sos o ser quien quisieras ser. Vos sos o querés ser un mal tipo. De cualquiera de las 2 maneras mejor evitarte. 

    Toda la gente que me conoce me adora ya que me conoce, y siempre les fui fiel, creo que vos y “con los que defenestrabas y ahora acatas sus ordenes” no pueden decir lo mismo, te repito la Verdad Duele.
    . No todos los que te conocen te adoran. La mayoría no te puede ni ver. Y vos crees que eso es porque no te conocen. Yo creo que están con la cabeza metida en su culo y creen que ese es el universo.
    Vos me conocés, yo no defenestro a nadie, pero siempre me quejo de las cosas que no me gustan. Lo bueno es que cuando llega a tus oídos ya pasó mucho antes por los de los interesados. Siempre hay cuestiones cuando se construye un proyecto, algo que sabrías si lo tuyo no fuera destruir.

    Y por ultimo, hace tiempo que solo juego desde que te enseñe a jugar a vos que ya estaba jubilado del juego, desde que esa gente malvada o matona que llamas eran los que te motivaron a aprender y superarte dia a dia. Perdon si soy insistente en este punto, pero como te dije, yo no miento, solo digo la verdad y esta duele.
    Nadie habla mal de ti ya que no existes pero como todos saben, eres un excelente mensajero 😉
    . Por enseñarme te tuve la paciencia que te tuve. Tarde me di cuenta que eran oportunidades que te daba para joderme la vida. Hasta unos días antes de sus sabotajes estaba tendiendo puentes con tu gente. 
    Y no hago exactamente de mensajero, esto es una cruzada personal. No te tendrías que haber metido otra vez con mi gente. 

    Y terminala que quedas como lo que sos, un payaso!
    . Peor estás vos, anotando un equipo de fantasía y opinando en un foro de una competencia en que ni participaste. Eso sí es digno de vergüenza ajena. 

    Sigamos hablando de la falta de respeto y malisima organización de esta ultima vergüenza de NW.
    Esperemos que este sea el fondo y que si es que lo hay, lo dudo, la próxima sepan realizarlo corrigiendo todos los horrores de esta 
    . Te voy a contestar como le contestan a los rusos, vos hablás como si de alguna manera alguien estuviera interesado en su participación, presente, pasada o futura. 
    Dejate de joder que acá no tenés más que hacer. 
    👋 
  • CABRONAZO_ARGCABRONAZO_ARG Member Posts: 21
    Bla bla bla, repasa el punto E marroba! Y aprende a contestar sobre post que no se entiende un carajo 🤷‍♂️
    Besos en las nalgas! 
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