Flaming Crossbow w/ Cripple Ignition Rate

This weapon has a special functionality of "45% chance to ignite targets". This is not functioning as listed. In all my tests it is no better than 22%. There is a bug somewhere with this. I don't know what it is but it is like the % for ignition is being dampened further by another action. Perhaps it's become 45% chance if a critical hit or 45% chance if a body shot. there is something else at work. It is definitely not 45%. Anyone else seeing this?

@Lexia is this being investigated?
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  • SpammageSpammage Member Posts: 12
    I haven't used the hunter version for a while for this very reason.  I see the same thing with the flaming crossbow pistol too.
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  • ATLAS-ZATLAS-Z Member Posts: 6,607
    Yeah it seems very low


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  • Killdozer187_Killdozer187_ Member Posts: 793
    Cronus said:
    This weapon has a special functionality of "45% chance to ignite targets". This is not functioning as listed. In all my tests it is no better than 22%. There is a bug somewhere with this. I don't know what it is but it is like the % for ignition is being dampened further by another action. Perhaps it's become 45% chance if a critical hit or 45% chance if a body shot. there is something else at work. It is definitely not 45%. Anyone else seeing this?

    @Lexia is this being investigated?
    Nice catch, I thought it was off but I've been busy doing other stuff to test it. 
  • Winston457Winston457 Member Posts: 126
    I was having some FOMO after not purchasing this weapon.  Not worried about it anymore.
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  • PP1990PP1990 Member Posts: 89
    I totally agree! I Thought the chance seemed so low but I never really bothered!
  • ATLAS-ZATLAS-Z Member Posts: 6,607
    I was having some FOMO after not purchasing this weapon.  Not worried about it anymore.

    Still the best overall for Yumiko, but it needs to be bumped at least to as advertised


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  • BillbamBillbam Member Posts: 1,214
    I totally agree...on Army of 3 a couple weeks ago I had an armor walker het hit 10X with no ignition.
    An in the Kill the Boss map in this challenge cant get it to light up.
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  • PP1990PP1990 Member Posts: 89
    Was this fixed in the last update and why does a cross bow increase threat? Crossbows are silent weapons and we see Daryl use it as a silent weapon in the tv show…
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  • SparrowMervSparrowMerv Member Posts: 106
    My first thought as well, now i got my Daryll (almost) completly silent with his 4 trait crossbow i don't care as much for it than in the beginning when you needed silence more. Now i'm just blasting away with every gun i have.
  • NatsuDarkNatsuDark Member Posts: 66
    I took a look at the game data and I can confirm that they did something about it. it's probably going to be better now, or at least I hope it is.
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  • WellyLugaWellyLuga Member Posts: 3,234
    edited August 2021
    I came here to say I've noticed it being much more reliable this challenge and wondered whether the latest update was the reason. There are still moments of repeated fails but I've noticed multiple occasions of it lighting repeatedly. This challenge it felt like it was working how I expected.
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  • andy75andy75 Member Posts: 262
    It is not effected by luck like the flare gun but I agree it needs some improvement. Maybe just let it interact with lucky trait on survivor. 
  • zbotzbot NML Legendary Moderator, OW Moderator Posts: 7,907
    Move a weapon trait that’s not affected by luck as the fourth trait and move incendiary as a regular trait so it’s affected by luck.

    Most likely the built in trait is hard coded on the weapon.
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  • BurmeliinisBurmeliinis Member Posts: 1,198
    It was only 35% before (like the bazooka)
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  • BillbamBillbam Member Posts: 1,214
    Lexia said:
    Thank you all for the shared details and inputs!

    We had a look at the data and noticed a mismatch with information in game and the actual data. The Flaming Crossbow and the Flaming Crossbow Pistol both now have a 45% chance to ignite the targets 🔥
    Flaming Cross Bow Pistol must interact with Lucky or it is pretty undependable, and will stay on the bench.
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  • DaiikoDaiiko Member Posts: 150
    Je suis complément d'accord avec vous, ici au 13 ème coups j'ai reussit a allumer:


  • zombieornottobezombieornottobe Member Posts: 125
    PP1990 said:
    Was this fixed in the last update and why does a cross bow increase threat? Crossbows are silent weapons and we see Daryl use it as a silent weapon in the tv show…
    He must have it tuned to play an Eddie van Halen power chord. I wouldn't know, ive played without sound for years now
    Winston457
  • Winston457Winston457 Member Posts: 126
    PP1990 said:
    Was this fixed in the last update and why does a cross bow increase threat? Crossbows are silent weapons and we see Daryl use it as a silent weapon in the tv show…
    He must have it tuned to play an Eddie van Halen power chord. I wouldn't know, ive played without sound for years now

    Can't remember the last time I had sound on for any game I've played on my phone.
    Kind of hard to play at work if the sound is on.
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  • WDW76WDW76 Member Posts: 63
    edited September 2021
    II bought the burning crossbow last weekend. I was looking forward to the Distance today. Wanted to burn the Winslows down in Nightmare mode. Unfortunately I had to find out that the ignition rate of 45% does not apply under any circumstances. The first Winslow ignited on the eight hit and the second Winslow only ignited on the 11th hit. Of course there is no video. But please check it again. @Lexia
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  • DedmonDedmon Member Posts: 26
    NG the answer is put a new tactical flare gun with cripple infused trait in next GW shop. Thanks for your consideration!
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  • deividaclimadeividaclima Member Posts: 38
    Billbam said:
    Lexia said:
    Thank you all for the shared details and inputs!

    We had a look at the data and noticed a mismatch with information in game and the actual data. The Flaming Crossbow and the Flaming Crossbow Pistol both now have a 45% chance to ignite the targets 🔥
    Flaming Cross Bow Pistol must interact with Lucky or it is pretty undependable, and will stay on the bench.
    @Lexia

    Should the Special Funcionallity, like ignition in Flaming Cross Bow pistol, interact with Lucky?


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  • FuriousMoldovanFuriousMoldovan Member Posts: 2,231
    It would be amazing if Lucky affected special functionality, but then NG would have to change plumbing for all special functionality weapons.
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  • ATLAS-ZATLAS-Z Member Posts: 6,607
    edited October 2021

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  • NatsuDarkNatsuDark Member Posts: 66
    Hey NG, I think you guys have brought the weapon's ignition percentage back to 35% in this new update, I recommend you fix it Soon!!
  • LexiaLexia Community Manager Posts: 1,015
    Hi @NatsuDark, it has already been fixed 😊
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  • NovellNovell Member Posts: 372
    Daiiko said:
    Je suis complément d'accord avec vous, ici au 13 ème coups j'ai reussit a allumer:



    This is the most boring video i have ever seen! Is this the way elite players reach 4.878 points in challenge? 45min (or something like that) to complete 1 mission. Also using one or more tools per mission? Holly shit guys. You are realy crazy. So much time and money (or gold) for a mobile game... B)
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  • CronusCronus Member Posts: 1,471
    @Lexia @Fluxxx I’m still standing by this hasn’t been totally fixed. You use this weapon enough and you know it’s not working at a 45% ignition rate. This video is just another sample. 8 consecutive shots without ignition. The 9th and final shot ignited a walker. That’s an 11% rate. Statistically most improbable to have 8 consecutive misses. Again this is just one example.

    https://youtu.be/vVVIXd880nI
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  • CronusCronus Member Posts: 1,471
    To put the math behind it, there is a 55% chance (probability) that a shot will not ignite the target. The probability of getting 8 consecutive shots that don't ignite is (0.55)^8 or 0.84% probability. Please don't reply with "it's possible then." I can continue to post examples and this is just the latest one. I am confident that the 45% ignition rate is not functioning as advertised. 
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