Last Stand game mode - Official Feedback thread

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  • LexiaLexia Community Manager Posts: 132
    TheKing said:
    @Lexia there is a new bug in LS 😂😂😂 the zombies can pass through the fence
    https://youtube.com/shorts/GBpMpgwKV14?feature=share
    Has been reported before and also addressed on the Forum. Thank you 😊
    TheKing
  • ghost_pepperghost_pepper Member Posts: 746
    Not only can zombies move through the fence...

    But we can also aim through the fence...


    But best if all, if the broken gate is opened, we can't pass through it! It becomes an invisible wall! Sasha is now all alone and cannot move to safety. She is walled out.


    This is so budget. Just use the Fuse Box map. We'll play Last Stand in that. We know that one works.

    Or does it?

    Bug hunting idea:
    My theory is the fast walkers broke the gate. One of them walked through another walker to then walk through the gate. First screenshot. The other walker moved through the gate with the fast walker. After that, everything was borked. How the fast walkers path, and more specifically how they path through other walkers, is what creates the issue. A gate is effectively 2 movement spaces of can't-move-through area code, sometimes, and fast walkers can move 3 squares. I think that's your issue right there. Fast walkers can hit through walls if they can't hit through walls, maybe they can't move through gates anymore. These 2 issues may be tied together.
  • WortipWortip Member Posts: 25
    Fast walkers are evolving again. 
    Oh well we only have one more day of this map. 
    ShadowWalker
  • ATLAS-ZATLAS-Z Member Posts: 5,182
    @Lexia maybe just retire fast walkers? No one will miss them.

    I hope we will see many new Walker types and challenges in the future but maybe this one is just not a good idea?


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  • WortipWortip Member Posts: 25
    Fast walkers are a good idea, just not perfectly implemented. That extra movement catches me out sometimes and the retaliate is a pain. The extra challenge makes it interesting I think. 
    NG just needs to iron out the bugs… 
    wmsShadowWalker
  • ghost_pepperghost_pepper Member Posts: 746
    Fast walker doesn't even have to walk through the gate. Looks like it's just the gate. My ranged heros were targeting through the other side of the open gate. Then I closed the gate. The targeting remained. Screenshot.


    Here is the result of how the walkers moved.

    So this makes me think we aren't dealing with something exclusively fast walker related. Targeting and movement is the issue. All walkers start this mode with targeting and fast walkers just move more, highlighting the problem. 

    How is your gate code on Fuse Box different from this one? Or is it the exact same and the textures are different so the problem is there? @Lexia
  • Shezza10Shezza10 Member Posts: 38
    Ok I’m sorry to change the subject away from bugs to something much more legitimate (😜) but I don’t get why nobody else is seeing what I see and commenting on it. I’m not saying there is any kind of cheating going on but how is this still possible? 12.4 MILLION points!!!!! that’s 12.24 million more than I managed last week (yes I know I suck!) and 6 million more than 2nd place. Come on, WTH is happening here? I get bored playing this mode for 15 minutes so good luck to them doing this but I don’t think this game mode is very viable if these sort of scores are possible! Sort it out please.
    Arqueue
  • BurmeliinisBurmeliinis Member Posts: 985
    This was last week, when you could utilize the gate bug to close both doors, meaning no walkers could reach you. So you could play forever, it was just a question of who wanted to put in the most amount of hours.
    Ingame username: Jubjab
  • FuriousMoldovanFuriousMoldovan Member Posts: 1,281
    After getting 12 millions in LS by playing days in the box:


    Leader of the original TWD guild (est. 10/2015).
    We Are TWD 😎
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  • m4sm4s Member Posts: 339
    unless it was done like that
    ShadowWalker
  • LexiaLexia Community Manager Posts: 132
    Shezza10 said:
    Ok I’m sorry to change the subject away from bugs to something much more legitimate (😜) but I don’t get why nobody else is seeing what I see and commenting on it. I’m not saying there is any kind of cheating going on but how is this still possible? 12.4 MILLION points!!!!! that’s 12.24 million more than I managed last week (yes I know I suck!) and 6 million more than 2nd place. Come on, WTH is happening here? I get bored playing this mode for 15 minutes so good luck to them doing this but I don’t think this game mode is very viable if these sort of scores are possible! Sort it out please.
    Thank you for bringing this up @Shezza10 , and a good note @Burmeliinis

    We will have a closer look to see if there is something there to be actioned, in addition to the map and its functionalities itself. 

    Kindly also keep in mind that if you bring up something about a specific player, there is also a risk that someone gets unjustly condemned for something they might have not done, so I'd appreciate it if things of this matter either be brought up privately or through support 🙂 
    Shezza10TheKing
  • ArqueueArqueue Member Posts: 218
    edited September 29
    seriously, this mode should either be temporarily removed or be labelled The Last Stand REAL BETA!!
  • Shezza10Shezza10 Member Posts: 38
    This was last week, when you could utilize the gate bug to close both doors, meaning no walkers could reach you. So you could play forever, it was just a question of who wanted to put in the most amount of hours.
    Well I never. I knew there were issues with walker going through the gate but didn’t know you could block yourself in 😂
    I’m glad I didn’t know as I managed to save several hours of my life.
    @Lexia thanks for your feedback and noted, I meant no disrespect and was just pointing out the flaws in the game mode rather than the specific player.
    Lexia
  • TheKingTheKing Member Posts: 143
    @Shezza10Why are you complaining when someone has taken advantage of the game's bugs? I’m sure If you knew, about this you'd use it too. 
  • Shezza10Shezza10 Member Posts: 38
    TheKing said:
    @Shezza10Why are you complaining when someone has taken advantage of the game's bugs? I’m sure If you knew, about this you'd use it too. 
    Wasn’t complaining as such as I didn’t know it was a bug at the time, was just asking why the game mode was potentially broken and not an even playing field for all players. Sorry I asked 🙄
  • avelardezavelardez Member Posts: 1,320
    Shezza10 said:
    This was last week, when you could utilize the gate bug to close both doors, meaning no walkers could reach you. So you could play forever, it was just a question of who wanted to put in the most amount of hours.
    Well I never. I knew there were issues with walker going through the gate but didn’t know you could block yourself in 😂
    I’m glad I didn’t know as I managed to save several hours of my life.
    @Lexia thanks for your feedback and noted, I meant no disrespect and was just pointing out the flaws in the game mode rather than the specific player.
    Did not know you could play for hours. So after you reach Wave 50 it allowed you to play still? Was that part of the bug? 
  • ghost_pepperghost_pepper Member Posts: 746
    If I had been able to utilize properly the closed in gate bug properly, I would have loved doing so. But as you can see in my screenshot from last week, yumiko princess is not the team to do it.

    It would have been really nice to make it to the rewards offered for completing 100 waves. This means more chances for more tools. It would have been really nice to make it beyond round 30, where a chance at epic and legendary component drops begins to happen. Making it past round 30 with mele is almost functionally impossible given the current difficulty scale which NG seems to be sticking with. The patch on exploding the walkers that shield the shooters for the Tara strategy has rendered that strategy almost as limited as mele, which worked for average players sort of and great players really well.

    Now it's strictly a spy and psy festival of ranged, where the spendiest players with the best Shane's and the trendiest players with the best meta traits on spy can showcase their most amazing use of a team for the most boring experience.

    By only going minimally high in the rankings, average players earn crap rewards and very little in the way of support development. Gaming experiences like this really make me want to become a socialist. It almost feels like NG wants the supposed vast sea of it's players to be either irritated or bored.
    Shezza10
  • avelardezavelardez Member Posts: 1,320
    This is what I reached today. First time getting to Wave 49. 
    Shezza10
  • TheKingTheKing Member Posts: 143
    It was to boring 
    Shezza10FuriousMoldovanShadowWalkerxeniia
  • BurmeliinisBurmeliinis Member Posts: 985
    avelardez said:
    Shezza10 said:
    This was last week, when you could utilize the gate bug to close both doors, meaning no walkers could reach you. So you could play forever, it was just a question of who wanted to put in the most amount of hours.
    Well I never. I knew there were issues with walker going through the gate but didn’t know you could block yourself in 😂
    I’m glad I didn’t know as I managed to save several hours of my life.
    @Lexia thanks for your feedback and noted, I meant no disrespect and was just pointing out the flaws in the game mode rather than the specific player.
    Did not know you could play for hours. So after you reach Wave 50 it allowed you to play still? Was that part of the bug? 
    There is no limit to amount of waves. As long as the map doesn’t get full you can carry on, and if you set 1-2 on fire every round you will not risk that problem.
    Ingame username: Jubjab
  • ghost_pepperghost_pepper Member Posts: 746
    We still don't get a picture in game of the LS map before we go into it. All we get is a name. Nobody remembers names-to-maps. And limiting players to only 3 runs (because there will probably be more misclick support tickets about buying an unwanted LS ticket asking for their 100 gold back than legitimate ticket purchases) seems silly. Casual players don't get to SEE the map first. So how can they try to compete even on their casual level of play? 

    4 tickets, 3 of them count
    -or-
    3 tickets, 2 of them count
    FirekidNovellThüringer
  • FirekidFirekid Member Posts: 2,940
    Get 2 tickets on Monday, 1 on Wednesday and 1 on Saturday. Max storage 2. Top 3 scores count. Basically allow a practise one to get a feel for the map, what walkers spawns are like, what waves we get certain walkers. It’s not right that those who don’t want to pay gold have to go in blind if they want to stay competitive without spending gold. 
    TheKingThüringerShadowWalker
  • ghost_pepperghost_pepper Member Posts: 746
    So many solutions that work.
  • BigBobBigBob Member Posts: 56
    @FuriousMoldovan sorry, what is DCM and DAR? Thank you
  • FuriousMoldovanFuriousMoldovan Member Posts: 1,281
    BigBob said:
    @FuriousMoldovan sorry, what is DCM and DAR? Thank you
    @BigBob
    DCM - Decimator.
    DAR - Daryl's Assault Rifle.

    More about NML lingo:
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  • MuirnaMuirna Member Posts: 56
    I am just frustrated I guess. I have been in the top 1% every week since Last Stand started. And that was without benefiting from the 2 tickets per day bug that earned many double the rewards without using gold. Now with the update, I'm in the top 9%. I don't know who you are catering to with this, but it isn't a fun mode, and it's pretty discouraging.
    wms
  • BazylBazyl Member Posts: 1
    There's only one problem with last stand-it exists. This game mode is total garbage, boring and pointless to play (rewards for normal players are next to worthless).

    ShadowWalkerMuirnaBurmeliinisSuperherowms
  • MuirnaMuirna Member Posts: 56
    My feedback for this week can be summarized as: demoralizing.

    Have any of you developers played this week's Last Stand yourself?
  • ATLAS-ZATLAS-Z Member Posts: 5,182
    I rather enjoyed this one actually. 

    All melee, 20 minutes of killing special walkers

    Cleared 31,000 plus

    Got some rainbow kittens

    Used one tool (medkit Eugene) , gained one tool (Gore).

    Easy peesy lemon squeezy. On with my evening. 

    Cheers! 


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  • ChimeraChimera Member Posts: 19
    edited October 14
    I am NOT happy having noticed this change to 'No Everyday Tickets, Tickets 3x Per week, in a game mode where you're measured by 3 scores' ---> WHAT GIVES?

    I'm flat out flabbergasted by this change. It's sometimes nice to try different teams in this last stand mode, and here the dev team has made it so -every-single-battle- must be PERFECT to get a good score.

    WTF?

    And NO, I do not consider spending gold on new tickets anything remotely close to a just or fair answer to this dev-team created problem.
    FirekidShadowWalkerGothgulDrhoo
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