Mismatch swords - GW season closed as of 27th of July 9AM UTC

m4sm4s Member Posts: 657
edited July 2022 in Bug Reports
Some guilds and players reported mismatch swords

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  • LexiaLexia Community Manager Posts: 1,126
    Currently looking into it :smile:

    Mostly it seems to be a visual bug, with 1 "extra" attack showing on the battle result screen, but player is still not able to do any more missions. We might already have found the cause for it.

    Some players have still stated to have some extra attacks available after doing 18 already, and able to start a new mission - we are still looking into this, so potential more information is welcomed 
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  • liorsalmanliorsalman Member Posts: 295
    edited July 2022
    @Lexia not me (-:
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  • FOEFOE Member Posts: 108
    Lexia said:
    Currently looking into it :smile:

    Mostly it seems to be a visual bug, with 1 "extra" attack showing on the battle result screen, but player is still not able to do any more missions. We might already have found the cause for it.

    Some players have still stated to have some extra attacks available after doing 18 already, and able to start a new mission - we are still looking into this, so potential more information is welcomed 
    Hello Lexia,

    We have the same problems.



    LG, Erwin
  • BurmeliinisBurmeliinis Member Posts: 1,216
    The extra swords bug (not the mismatch but real extra swords) seems extremely common so I fully agree that this week’s war should be cancelled.
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  • RacerRacer Member Posts: 9
    First day of GW. Good job... Bug wars continues. 🪲🪲🪲😭🤣😂. Maybe postpone it till after the summer, so you can test stuff before releasing it. 
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  • n00bn00b Member Posts: 83
    At least forum shows some signs of life today, every cloud has a silver lining
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  • CronusCronus Member Posts: 1,478
    m4s said:
    Booooooom

    Looks like a new personal best!
  • Stalker20Stalker20 Member Posts: 1,290
    I don't agree with cancelling it, I didn't get any extra swords, neither did my guildmates. NG can adjust those accounts who scored extra, that's fairer. 
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  • ATLAS-ZATLAS-Z Member Posts: 6,734
    @Lexia not me (-:

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    Schrödinger's cat walks into a bar.... Just kidding.

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  • BurmeliinisBurmeliinis Member Posts: 1,216
    There's already 6 teams on the leaderboard with more than max possible points. A team of 10 can score a maximum of 14,638 points, and the one at the top of the board already has 15,324 :facepalm:
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  • tallinietallinie Member Posts: 407
    The extra swords bug (not the mismatch but real extra swords) seems extremely common so I fully agree that this week’s war should be cancelled.
    I seem to have had extra sword as well. After I used all swords and checked scoreboard, my score was showing up a bit higher than is possible with 18 swords.
  • xeniiaxeniia Member Posts: 67
    Stalker20 said:
    I don't agree with cancelling it, I didn't get any extra swords, neither did my guildmates. NG can adjust those accounts who scored extra, that's fairer. 

    There is obviously a bug that is actively exploited by some teams. Adjusting scores will not help, it need to be fixed before we can proceed with wars, otherwise it's just ridiculous. 
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  • derexderex Member Posts: 2
    edited July 2022
    My guild is not playing today, but what is reported in other forums:
    Red gas still gives full points.
    Sword lost is back.@Lexia
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  • Shezza10Shezza10 Member Posts: 67
    edited July 2022
    Very unimpressed with all this and even more unimpressed with the response from NG.
    All integrity and sportmanship out the window, all hope for a competitive guild war season gone on day one.
    Absolute shambles! You need to sort this out and fast @Lexia@Fluxxx
    It’s fantastic to see some guilds only playing genuine attacks and stopping at max scores. Bravo to you guys.
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  • YikesYikes Member Posts: 181
    I think NG should come out with some kind of statement at least to warn people to not exploit these bugs to minimize the impact.  They should say that any teams using more than the allotted number of attacks will be investigated when the dust clears.

    Right now, the dilema is that if they punish guilds that took advantage of the extra attacks, then it can unfair for those that did not count their attacks and just spent what they had (honest mistake?)  But, if they do nothing, then teams that are trying to do the right thing are the ones at a disadvantage in terms of RP and VP.  They can't simply wipe away the RP and VP that have already been earned because players have used tools and some may have spent their RP in the GW shop.

    It'll be interesting to see what the resolution will be.  Rankings based on today's scores are going to be garbage unless there's some kind of fix.


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  • Shezza10Shezza10 Member Posts: 67
    If guilds going for max score don’t know what the max score is by now then I would be very surprised, there will definitely be some ‘honest mistakes’ but not from the potential max guilds.
    I agree the solution to this will be very difficult to find, maybe more red gas compensation? 🤷‍♂️
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  • BurmeliinisBurmeliinis Member Posts: 1,216
    The only solution is to completely cancel this week’s war and give some token compensation to everyone who played today (like 100 gold) and anyone who used much more need to make a ticket.

    Clearly a lot of guilds are going wild and exploit this as much as they can.
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  • PastePaste Member Posts: 843
    edited July 2022
    Yikes said:
    I think NG should come out with some kind of statement at least to warn people to not exploit these bugs to minimize the impact.  They should say that any teams using more than the allotted number of attacks will be investigated when the dust clears.

    Don't put this on the players. It's NG's fault. Although it's honorable that some guilds have chosen not to use extra swords, that doesn't mean the other guilds are all intentionally cheating (like you said). There's a count on how many swords you have in the game, just like there's a count on gas, red gas, tools, tomatoes etc. It's not the players job to double check these. And it's not well spent time for NG to chase after people either, instead of fixing bugs.
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  • YikesYikes Member Posts: 181
    Paste said:
    Yikes said:
    I think NG should come out with some kind of statement at least to warn people to not exploit these bugs to minimize the impact.  They should say that any teams using more than the allotted number of attacks will be investigated when the dust clears.

    Don't put this on the players. It's NG's fault. Although it's honorable that some guilds have chosen not to use extra swords, that doesn't mean the other guilds are all intentionally cheating (like you said). There's a count on how many swords you have in the game, just like there's a count on gas, red gas, tools, tomatoes etc. It's not the players job to double check these. And it's not well spent time for NG to chase after people either, instead of fixing bugs.
    Agree.  This is why I said there are likely some honest mistakes and it's unfair to punish those who don't really count swords.  I'm sure NG can also run queries to see which teams have scores above the maximum and then look at logs to see which players exit the game after starting a mission to get extra swords (as reported above).  That is clearly an exploit especially if multiple members on the team do it or if a player does it more than once.  Now, what they're going to do about it is a different issue.
    Stalker20
  • ADPaqADPaq Member Posts: 441
    Well said @Paste. This is solely on NG and no player should be penalised for NG's mistake in not deducting used attacks.

    Suspend GW until fixed, compensate those who spent resources and restart this fiasco of a war once GW had been tested and works.
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  • echonapechonap Member Posts: 199
    My guild went over the max score but we definitely didn’t do it maliciously. I am the GW coordinator and I couldn’t figure out what was going on and why spent attacks didn’t match remaining attacks. I’m sure many went over max with no intention of cheating/exploiting.

    Fix the bug and reset all guilds to max VP that they could’ve earned so far but no need to take back RP. The player earned it. That’s my vote.

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  • JGUYJGUY Member Posts: 49
    Isn't it nice when a company releases a bug filled update then go on vacation. And year after year they do the same thing. And no one is around to answer our questions. 
    NG, you need to postpone Guild Wars until you can straighten out the new bugs. Need I say more!
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  • ADPaqADPaq Member Posts: 441
    This is the guild we're up against today and they're still going 🤣😂


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  • Killdozer187_Killdozer187_ Member Posts: 825
    They better not suspend anything if my team uses resources to play. Just give every guild affected the 1.5 multiplier until you figure it out. 
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