Surviver Traits

CaseMcVee · June 2016

With the new release will you be able to use tokens to increase a silver trait in a Surviver to a gold trait. For example. If you have a legendary and it has a silver luck trait can you use tokens to make it a gold luck.

theRealBender · June 2016

Here's the announcement with some details:

http://forums.nextgames.com/walkingdead/discussion/11898/update-1-10-new-traits-and-trait-progression#latest

This announcement seems to be missing information, I don't know why. But I do know the traits will be changed to have 5 levels instead of three. (levels 1-5 instead of bronze, silver, gold).

I suggest you read the thread dedicated to the new survivor progression and traits. Everything you are asking is already there for you to read

Conan1976 · June 2016

Hear hear

CaseMcVee · June 2016

@theRealBender I did read it. That's why I asked, it seemed very unclear

theRealBender · June 2016

You must have missed the part where they say there will be no more silver and gold traits.

PR0DJ · June 2016

theRealBender said:
You must have missed the part where they say there will be no more silver and gold traits.

I bet it was mentioned more than once.)
How about friendly bet how many? (but no reading thread again before the bet)

PR0DJ · June 2016

But if @CaseMcVee meant this: "It will be possible to upgrade all traits to maximum?" - it is unclear indeed. But it is whole different question.

DLich · June 2016

I understand 1-5 but curious how that compares to usability. Is 1 = 5%. 2 = 10% etc.

And if I recall once you upgrade all current traits to 5 you can then upgrade the class to a higher type which then unlocks another trait needing to be upgraded before you can upgrade the class again.

I just wonder if traits reset to 1 after each class upgrade and what each ability equates to.

We're used to dealing in percentages.

Bronze = 5
Silver = 10
Gold = 15

If you have 5 dodge, 5 luck, gold luck on weapon and gold dodge on armor, that's 80% dodge if 5= 25%

Overall we'll all figure it out when it's released.

DLich · June 2016

Imagine if since there is a total of 5 traits once upgraded to legendary the maximum you can increase any particular trait is the order in which it's listed on the survivor.

Currently you unlock different traits at different survivor levels. Imagine if the first trait unlocked can't go above Ievel 1 and the second sbove kevel 2 and so on.

So the 5 can only be maxed on the final trait given once upgraded fully to legendary and its that "random" one created. The chaos that would create.

The survivors from pulls without luck would become priority, and you would have to cross your finger that once you fully upgrade the survivor after a huge investment of time and tokens that the final trait given randomly is luck.

theRealBender · June 2016

Buddy it's time for you to become a game developer.

Personally, if I pull a rare or worse without already having Lucky trait, I will scrap it for tokens. I believe from the info so far, it would be less costly to try to pull an Epic or Legendary with Lucky than to promote a Rare to Epic and hope it gets a Lucky trait after all that process to promote.

So you are wondering whether the traits are reset to level 1 upon promotion to higher rarity? Thus requiring you to level each one back up to level 5 before the next promotion is possible? We shall see lol.

Regarding this part: "So the 5 can only be maxed on the final trait given once upgraded fully to legendary and its that "random" one created. The chaos that would create."

I think they covered that in their explanation of progression. Each trait must be maxed to level 5 before you can promote.

What I really like, unless I am misreading things, is that all the traits on a survivor have the potential to be maxed. Currently, only the top two traits on a Legendary can be maxed out (ie. gold).

DLich · June 2016

@theRealBender I remember seeing that now.

Well if 5 does infact = 25% we can all look forward to 80% being the new max dodge!!

theRealBender · June 2016

I would love Dodge to be more reliable for sure

crambert_nec · June 2016

I'm betting the percentages will be in multiples of 3 now. 15% will still be the max.

PR0DJ · June 2016

@DLich Gold = 5 lvl.
That was written by devs.

DLich · June 2016

So it seems like 3% per would make sense then. Who wants to update the wiki when it comes out lol

WahooDawg · June 2016

So does silver turn into 9%? Or will they give us 12?

DLich · June 2016

@WahooDawg I have to assume bronze is 1 silver is 3 gold is 5 but we'll get more info when it's released. It's easy to deduct that's how it'll work.

CaseMcVee · June 2016

Thanks for the input. I'm thinking what I feel is the obvious. Radio calls don't pay till we all can see for sure what we can do with what we already have. I have a couple of legendary's that have dodge and luck but only one with both gold. I truly would like to have 3 with both gold luck and dodge or whatever the top in those features ends up being,

Jenng · June 2016

Percentages and technical talk goes right over my head. Lol I'm just happy that I've kept a group of legendary's and epics and hoarding radios as we speak. So that when the update drops I'll be prepared

Sipher07 · June 2016

And trait is upgraded by XP
And class level promoted by radio tokens???

Japes87 · June 2016

If traits are currently mostly 15%+ for gold I'm guessing it will be 3% per tier (x5 = 15%)
I'm hoping our current legendaries with gold traits will automatically be put to 5 and not 4 or something forcing us to upgrade an already perfect trait.. there's so many gaps in the given information though , it's basically guesswork. I'm eagerly awaiting the update and I'd suggest everyone do what I'm going to do before the maintenance break , take screenshots of all your current survivor traits . Just in case , you never know with what can happen after updates , proof may be a good thing if support tickets are needed

SpacemanSpiff · June 2016

@Sipher07 The announcement thread had said traits upgraded with tokens, not xp. Did you see different somewhere else?

lmfgunnut · June 2016

I'm confident that I'm going to here having to unlock and level the traits on my 18/19 legendaries that are just shy of having everything unlocked. My 18/18 legendaries will only be worried about the extra trait they get.

I suppose if they let us take everything to max, there will be a very large amount of collecting required to go back and upgrade current silver traits to 5 for my full team.

PR0DJ · June 2016

WahooDawg said:
So does silver turn into 9%? Or will they give us 12?

If I know math and logic correctly (sarcasm involved) and assuming that Gold trait = 5 lvl as they said (it can be false because they say one thing but do another from time to time). So I guess silver can be only 9%, because of the tiers like 3/6/9/12/15.
Or for retaliate 15/30/45/60/75.

But, once again - nobody knows for sure if they know math and logic and how to write about it (no sarcasm - sad true). It was proved in 1.9 release when they said one thing in Announcement but did the other. And all what they did after I taught them some math - they just changed the Announcement.

Japes87 · June 2016

@PR0DJ I like some of your posts man , but I have to say with respect, I don't think you taught them any math (sarcasm not involved)

PR0DJ · June 2016

Japes87 said:
@PR0DJ I like some of your posts man , but I have to say with respect, I don't think you taught them any math (sarcasm not involved)

Ok, tell me then what I did here?
http://forums.nextgames.com/walkingdead/discussion/comment/84566/#Comment_84566
Read 2 of my comments after which they changed Announcement here:
http://forums.nextgames.com/walkingdead/discussion/10736/survivor-balance-changes-in-1-9
And apologized to everybody here:
http://forums.nextgames.com/walkingdead/discussion/comment/84796/#Comment_84796

Did I taught them math by pointing out what % sign means? Maybe I did not.
Or how to write Announcements more accurate and true? I hope I did - nothing wrong with that.
I just don't like when somebody messing with math or deny logic or just lying to customers, so that's why I was outraged.

Don't get me wrong, I am not a teacher, I just explaining to you why I used word "taught" in context of their way to write about changes.

PR0DJ · June 2016

@Japes87
Oh yeah - and that was explanation by eetu:
http://forums.nextgames.com/walkingdead/discussion/comment/84514/#Comment_84514

Japes87 · June 2016

@PR0DJ what you did there was constructive for the most part , they made a mistake and owned up to it when called out (or someone else on the Dev team made a mistake and they have to take one for the team) I'm only saying that saying you "taught them math" is insulting to them on a personal level , akin to questioning their intelligence , words are powerful man , and the way you use them can be the difference between constructive dialogue and hurling insults , this may be strictly an issue of English being a second language to you and context , but either way , Eetu and Teeceezy are both very bright people. I'll give that to them at least

PR0DJ · June 2016

@Japes87 I got your point from your first message. You think I used "taught" like: "I am superior and they are just stupid" - No. I didn't mean it that way.
I still hope you can understand me after all.
And language isn't an issue (we speak same English here) - it is more of "way of thinking".
My way of thinking and your way of thinking - are different.

I was "speaking" to them as representatives of NG, I didn't say they personally are stupid or liars.
I respect almost any person I'm talking to, otherwise I wouldn't bother.

I said that what was written - is wrong. They accepted it and corrected their "mistake".
I'm sure definition of word "taught" fit right in here.

Oxford American Dictionary:
teach [tēCH] (past and past participle taught [tôt])
1. show or explain to (someone) how to do something.
2. cause (someone) to learn or understand something by example or experience

mongo911 · June 2016

@Japes87...

I understand American English... Real Good... @PR0DJ is not an American , or thinks like one, or understands the subtleties of the American English....

Move on to other subjects...

Japes87 · June 2016

@mongo911

I'm aware you have an amazing grasp of American English , your skillfully crafted nested sentences convinced me haha

@PR0DJ fair enough

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